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looking for best gaming rig,AMD A10 5800 or i core 7??? desktop or laptop???for $500

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April 9, 2013 12:51:40 AM

AMD A10 5800 3.8 Ghz VS intel core i5 desktop/laptop comparison....which is best buy for 500 budget???
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April 9, 2013 12:56:09 AM

Wait.

Are you talking about a laptop, or a desktop, and an i5 or an i7?

Using integrated graphics, a dedicated, card, what?

In a laptop, the A10 is your best bet for that price range, but an i7-QM with a dedicated card will beat it's pants off.

In a desktop, the A10 has absolutely NO chance - an i5 with a mid-range card would slaughter it.
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April 9, 2013 12:59:38 AM

If you want the best performance for $500, then get a laptop but it'll suck at all games except Minecraft.

For $650 you can get a desktop with everything including monitor and it'll play all games decent.

Your choice
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April 9, 2013 2:54:59 AM

here is my specs for core i7:


Processor : Intel Core i7-3770 Processor Socket 1155 3.40ghz 8m Tray
MotherBoard : Biostar H61mgc Motherboard Socket 1155 Pcie Ddr3
Memory (RAM) : g. skill rip jaw 8gb
Case : Xtyle 2819a Casing Spiderman Red
PSU : Xtyle Power Supply 600watts
HSF : Socket 1155 Heatsink F
video card: palit gt630 2gb 128 bit

and for the amd 5800:
Amd Trinity A10-5800k x4 Processor Socket Fm2 4.2ghz Black Edition
Biostar A55mh Motherboard Socket Fm1 Pcie Ddr3/Redfox Rf-a55f2m3 Motherboard Socket Fm2 Pcie Ddr3
Memory (RAM) : g. skill rip jaw 8gb
Case : Xtyle 2819a Casing Spiderman Red
PSU : Xtyle Power Supply 600watts
HSF : Socket 1155 Heatsink F
video card: palit gt630 2gb 128 bit

also, im planning now to get a desktop since i already have a core i5 acer laptop atm.... for the amd, i can change the motherboard if you want me to and pls let me know what i should get instead.....many many thanks
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April 9, 2013 3:18:26 AM

These are for a desktop?

God, I'm sorry, but both of them are absolutely horrible clusters of electronics that are NOT capable of gaming and, in many places are absolute wastes of money.

Give us a budget and we'll put together a competent rig for you - neither of these are anywhere close to what you should be looking at.
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April 9, 2013 3:49:11 AM

awts...really??is that bad?????wew, i need a second opinion please if i can???and can you tell me what is wrong with my choices pls...hoping you could enlighten me more on this matters.....these were recommended by a friend who owned computer shop...... or can you give a detailed comparison of what you think is my specs as you see it????
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April 9, 2013 3:55:30 AM

The big issue is your video card. Your video card is insanely low. Also, you don't need a i7 for gaming, it's actually a waste of money if that money could go toward other parts.

We need this to help:
1) What games do you play? And what settings do you want...Medium..High..Ultra?
2) What is your monitor? 1920x1080 or 1600x900 or....
3) What country are you buying from?
4) Do you own anything yet?
5) How much are you willing to spend? Do you need OS? Monitor?
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April 9, 2013 4:16:01 AM

ok, so i can just settle for core i5 or i3 then??? and if my video card is low, what do you recommend???

1, mostly i would like to play online game like AION, TERA, C9, GUILD WARS2, MU ONLINE, and others ...also for LAN GAMES like CALL OF DUTY 2, BATTLEFIELD3 and skyrm if possible,MODERNWARFARE 3 and others. im just want to play it safe so in medium only or if ever to low settings to minimize lag ingames....
3 i am just thinking of AOC/HANNS G/PHILIPPS 18.5 LED MONITOR
4. im located in the philippines atm
5. i presently using my old laptop acer i5 but thinking of having desktop mostly for gaming purposes.
5. i 'm on a tight budget so im thinking of 500-600 gaming rig only....
6. for os, i plan to use only windows 7 ultimate since i have original cd for this....

to be honest, i am more inclined to have the amd 5800 or if ever the intel i5...so just help me decide ok...many many thanks....this rig is purely for gaming purposes only......i can use my old pc for office or others ....
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April 9, 2013 5:41:25 AM

This build is from a US website so the price will be much higher in the Philippines. If it's $500 in US, then its probably $600 in Philippines.

If you get an i5 you will find it really difficult to stay in budget, so I'd choose i3 instead.
Also, I chose 1333MHz RAM, instead of 1600MHz, to save some more money. Performance is pretty damn close but gotta cut costs if you
want to stay in budget.
For GPU, I'd look for a 7770 or 650ti. You will get good fps in games and Medium quality.
You have or want a 18.5" monitor, so it is 1600x900 or 1366x768. The GPUs will play it well. If you need to cut GPU cost
then you could drop down to a 7750.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i3-3220 3.3GHz Dual-Core Processor ($114.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($50.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Video Card: Galaxy GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB Video Card ($119.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $503.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-09 08:36 EDT-0400)
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April 9, 2013 7:21:31 AM

well thank you very much envy 14tpe for your inputs. at least you give option instead of just making a judgement on this topic and help instead me on determining my alternatives.
for the video card, do you only recommend 1GB ddr5 128bit or it needs to be 256bit ddr5???cos if its the 256 bit, its too pricey for my budget. can i just use instead Ecs Gt440 Videocard 1gb-128bit Pcie Ddr5???since its more afftordable here...
for the memory, yeah, im ok with corsair 8gb ddr 1333 : for the storage, i do have toshiba HDD 500gb sata 7200 rpm in mind since its more affordable also and available
for the others, i guess i can follow ur recommendation like core i3, can i just use Intel Core i3-3220 Processor Socket 1155 3.30ghz 3m Tray
Motherboard : Gigabyte Ga-h61m-ds2 Motherboard Socket 1155 Pcie Ddr3???

also, you dont recommend i choose the AMD A10-5800K since its more cheaper than the intel??? newey, really appreciate you taking ur time on letting me know wat to choose or wat....will be waiting for your feedback on my query......
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April 9, 2013 10:18:56 PM

Games are getting more demanding on video card. I recommend 2gb, but 12O bit is OK.

Toshiba HDD is good buy.

If A10-5800k is cheaper ? then get it. Is it cheaper than i3 s?
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April 9, 2013 11:55:32 PM

Yeah get an i3 so you can spend another $150 2 years down the road on a real CPU... I like everything about this build except the i3. All softwares from games to video editing to web browsers and everything in between are becoming more and more threaded taking advantage of more cores with everyday that passes. Many major game titles are already able to take advantage of more than 4 cores (BF3, Crysis3, Far Cry 3, Skyrim) Just to rattle off a few. Why not pick up an FX 6300 ? No I'm not just touting what I use. It's a logical choice as it's ONLY downfall is at stock speeds being about 5-10% slower in single threaded applications than the i3. On the other side of the coin its on average 25-40% faster than the i3 at everything else. AMD is the logical choice for a well rounded future proofed performance machine on a budget. Throw a decent overclock on it and the 6300 is more of a competitor for the i5's than the i3's. And here's the best part... 6300 costs less than the i3
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April 10, 2013 6:33:56 AM

i3s are best for people that simply want to have a computer run and they don't want to tweak things or overclock anything. I would recommend an i3 for my sister, but I wouldn't buy one for gaming.

The base clock on the A10-5800k is ok, but if you overclock it...then its better than any i3. For a few bucks more, can you grab a FX-6300? It's a sweet CPU. You'll need to buy an extra cooler to overclock but it's worth it. The good thing is that motherboards designed for AMD CPUs tend to be cheaper than mobos designed for Intel CPUs. Additionally, if you want to overclock the CPU then you can't be too cheap on your mobo.
Here are some suggestions for AMD mobos: (US website but you can read the details)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Obviously if you want the A10-5800k then you can not use the Gigabyte Ga-h61m-ds2.
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April 10, 2013 7:27:24 AM

FX 6300 is the best bang for your buck at that price.
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April 10, 2013 7:32:26 AM

whyso said:
FX 6300 is the best bang for your buck at that price.


+1 FX6300 is far more CPU for your dollar performance wise...for $130 it's nigh impossible to find a better value.
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April 13, 2013 12:28:33 AM

well cmi86, thanks for revommeding the amd 6300 for me, will try to look for it here..whyso, 8350rocks, thanks also for you inputs....
as to envy14tpe, thanks for your detailed info, will try to follow what you suggest....so i guess its a toss for core i5 or amd 5800/6300 for me....hmmmm, again, thanks for your advice guys and if anybody got any better ideas or combination, pls let me know and all your inputs will be highly appreciated....
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April 13, 2013 12:34:32 AM

envy14tpe, what cooler you recommend i buy if i settle for amd5800/6300??? and how do you overclock it??? also, i think you agree that i just settle for 1gb ddr5 128bit video card instead of 2gb ddr3 128 bit that i previously want to use, is that correct???
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April 13, 2013 12:52:11 AM

FX-6300 is great if you overclock. I don't have any guides but it should be an easy one to overclock. On my i5-2500k I searched and found some guides. I tried out one or two until I was able to run my system stable. Usually you can simply increase the multiplier. Originally, mine was 100 x 3.3, so I changed the multiplier to 4.4 so now my max system is 4.4GHz. I also had to make some small tweaks.

Your in the Philippines so temps and humiditiy are an issue. (I live in Taiwan so it's similar) Make sure you get a decent cooler. Some examples to look for:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

These coolers are large but cool the CPU well. The fan blows air towards the rear of the case to help get hot air out.

Yes, 1gb 128bit is fine.
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April 13, 2013 1:48:02 AM

elow there guys, i found this and please let me know if they are better than 5800/6300??? its also cost more than them but a little bit only.....so let me know what you think ok??

AM3+ AMD FX-8320 3.5ghz Complete Desktop Set
Processor : Amd Fx-8320 Eight-Core Processor Socket Am3+ 4.0ghz
Motherboard : Msi 760gm-p23 Fx Motherboard Socket Am3+ Pcie Ddr3
it also comes with e-maxx 4gb memory and prolink 19" led monitor and it only cost around almost $500....the mother board, is it ok already or you have any other suggestions?? and do i need also to buy 1gb ddr5 128bit video card with this>??? many many thanks in advance for your inputs guys....
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April 13, 2013 2:58:12 AM

coramoor said:
elow there guys, i found this and please let me know if they are better than 5800/6300??? its also cost more than them but a little bit only.....so let me know what you think ok??

AM3+ AMD FX-8320 3.5ghz Complete Desktop Set
Processor : Amd Fx-8320 Eight-Core Processor Socket Am3+ 4.0ghz
Motherboard : Msi 760gm-p23 Fx Motherboard Socket Am3+ Pcie Ddr3
it also comes with e-maxx 4gb memory and prolink 19" led monitor and it only cost around almost $500....the mother board, is it ok already or you have any other suggestions?? and do i need also to buy 1gb ddr5 128bit video card with this>??? many many thanks in advance for your inputs guys....


That's looking rather like a Prebuilt or bundle to me. It's that system there is only 4gb of RAM, which I would determine to be too little for a PC that you want to use for gaming. You would still need a graphics card, as the integrated graphics on the FX series are non existent.
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April 13, 2013 3:30:53 AM

yes lightsimluke, thats a bundle or complete set package....i intend to buy another 4gb ram to make it to 8gb and thinking wether to change e maxx to Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory and will just buy Ecs Gt440 Videocard 1gb-128bit Pcie Ddr so it make my budget add more to almost $600.00. so will it now make a good gaming rig??also, will change the monitor to ASUS/AOC/HANNS G 19" since theres only slight add cost to it...im just looking at adding a good cooler as suggested like Deepcool Gamma xx400 Heatsink Fan since it does not cost much....do you guys think this is now ok or need to buy another cooler??? the coolers suggested by envy14tpe looks good but cost much as i canvass....
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April 13, 2013 3:56:17 AM

coramoor said:
yes lightsimluke, thats a bundle or complete set package....i intend to buy another 4gb ram to make it to 8gb and thinking wether to change e maxx to Corsair 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory and will just buy Ecs Gt440 Videocard 1gb-128bit Pcie Ddr so it make my budget add more to almost $600.00. so will it now make a good gaming rig??also, will change the monitor to ASUS/AOC/HANNS G 19" since theres only slight add cost to it...im just looking at adding a good cooler as suggested like Deepcool Gamma xx400 Heatsink Fan since it does not cost much....do you guys think this is now ok or need to buy another cooler??? the coolers suggested by envy14tpe looks good but cost much as i canvass....
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Just make sure that the power supply in that bundle is a good make, in so that it doesn't blow up in your face if you decide to run it with a higher end GPU. Apart from that, with your suggestions it will be okay.
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April 13, 2013 4:24:50 AM

wew, you make me nervous with that kind of comment about the psu.....the bundle psu for that set is only this: Xtyle Power Supply 600watts:
pls let me know if i have to change the psu as well for this rig.??and wat should i be using instead for a psu...many many thanks
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April 13, 2013 4:29:47 AM

Xtyle appears to be a very generic brand. I know your budget is small, but unless you want to end up spending more in the future I recommend a quality brand PSU, like XFX, Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, EVGA or Some of the Coolermaster models.
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April 13, 2013 5:54:26 AM

yeah, its a generic brand i think....well, i guess i need to get a good psu for my rig since it might blow up in my face and will to canvass like you mentioned...guess there are out there which is affordable yet durable like coolmaster, corsair etc...many many thanks again flightsimluke
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April 13, 2013 6:03:22 AM

well i did find some and they are
Corsair Vs550 Power Supply 550watts
or
Aerocool Strike-x Power Supply 600watts

are they good or sufficient already???hope they are since they cost also but then again, i think it is better to invest in the psu more that in other items....
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April 13, 2013 10:03:10 AM

coramoor said:
well i did find some and they are
Corsair Vs550 Power Supply 550watts
or
Aerocool Strike-x Power Supply 600watts

are they good or sufficient already???hope they are since they cost also but then again, i think it is better to invest in the psu more that in other items....


Aerocool are an undervalued brand, from what I hear they're pretty decent power supplies. But if you're looking for a good, solid and proven PSU, go for the Corsair.
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