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a b K Overclocking
April 9, 2013 1:30:18 AM

I've been reading quite a while in some forums but didnt get a decent answer...

I got a gtx570 and I use it overclocked with different clock rates dependant on what I'm doing.
(stock clock rate is 732 MHz)
(i can push it up to 900-950MHz with ~1.1V)

I have no real problem with overclocking the cpu it is stable but even if I raise the clock rate 5MHz Crysis3 keeps crashing for a weird reason.

Is there a backdoor solution to this ?
(I heard regardless of what GPU you use Crysis3 is in love with BSOD lol when O/C'd ofc...)

Thanks in advance.

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a b K Overclocking
April 9, 2013 3:03:25 AM

If the temperatures are fine, try increasing the voltage if 1.1 is not the maximum already.

Crysis 3 does seem to be a bit on the buggy side (in terms of crashing anywayz), so I wouldn't blame your computer entirely. If it is because of Crysis 3, then I guess there's no backdoor solution I'm afraid :( 

Hope this helps.
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April 9, 2013 11:47:45 PM

oddlyinsane said:
If the temperatures are fine, try increasing the voltage if 1.1 is not the maximum already.

Crysis 3 does seem to be a bit on the buggy side (in terms of crashing anywayz), so I wouldn't blame your computer entirely. If it is because of Crysis 3, then I guess there's no backdoor solution I'm afraid :( 

Hope this helps.


Is there a reference list for frequency-voltage coupling for gtx570 (or nvidia generally?)
I heard that gtx boards doesnt really like overvolting...

Thanks for reply. I guess I will be waiting for updates of Crysis3 :( 

edit: yea my temps are fine fully loaded it is stable at 72-73C (idle is like 40-42C)

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a c 224 K Overclocking
April 10, 2013 4:05:53 AM

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Crysis3 keeps crashing if gpu is OC'd


Simple answer, Don't overclock the GPU!

More than likely you're running too high of Crysis 3 game settings for the 570GTX to handle, vs the voltage you're using for the overclock and the temperatures you're reaching 72-73c is approaching a throttle point of the card, it's a built in protection factor same as a CPU.

My load temperature with 2 580GTX combined heat in SLI is your idle temperature, so either lower your game settings, or do not overclock the graphics card, or get yourself better cooling for the GPU.

Because adding more voltage is just going to add more heat, to an already unstable situation.

Too many out here think every graphics card is equally overclockable and they're not, some could be, but come stock fitted with a lousy thermal compound application under the heat sink and MSI is notorious for that.

I'm not suggesting you check that unless you know what you're doing.
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April 10, 2013 4:18:09 AM

4Ryan6 said:
More than likely you're running too high of settings for the 570GTX to handle, vs the voltage you're using for the overclock and the temperatures you're reaching 72-73c is approaching a throttle point of the card, it's a built in protection factor same as a CPU.

My load temperature with 2 580GTX combined heat in SLI is your idle temperature, so either lower your game settings, or do not overclock the graphics card, or get yourself better cooling for the GPU.

Because adding more voltage is just going to add more heat, to an already unstable situation.

Too many out here think every graphics card is equally overclockable and they're not, some could be, but come stock fitted with a lousy thermal compound application under the heat sink and MSI is notorious for that.

I'm not suggesting you check that unless you know what you're doing.


yea you are right not every card is the same ofcourse. as i said i was just asking for a reference list only. but to be honest those temps were under stress testing. i believe its normal, since you dont actually push the card that much loaded anyways with usual gaming.

a side note; gtx570 is anyways running hotter than your setup even with stock speeds i could get like ~65C under stress test. thats why i assumed its normal what i was experiencing when its oc'd.

well as i was saying its running fine with all other apps and games when its overclocked but it doesnt really explain why crysis3 cannot take it :/ 
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April 10, 2013 4:59:55 AM

4Ryan6 said:
My load temperature with 2 580GTX combined heat in SLI is your idle temperature, so either lower your game settings, or do not overclock the graphics card, or get yourself better cooling for the GPU..


Thats hardly fair to say Ryan, you are running the mother of all cooling setups on your rig. Not everyone has their GPU's in their own dedicated water-cooling loop.
Besides, we don't know ambient temperatures. My CPU can hit 40°C at idle on a hot day, despite the fact I do have water-cooling on it.

The newer Kepler cards are fairly limited when it comes to overvolting, and the few board partners that got around it were hammered by Nvidia pretty quickly (Look up the MSI 660ti and 670 overvolting controversy). Far as I know the Fermi cards are fine with it though.

Dont know to be honest, its probably the games issue since it only seems to be an issue there. Maybe try backing off your overclock by 50Mhz or so when playing Crysis 3, that should stabilize it unless it just doesn't like overclocking at all.
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April 10, 2013 5:18:44 AM

n1ghtr4v3n said:
4Ryan6 said:
More than likely you're running too high of settings for the 570GTX to handle, vs the voltage you're using for the overclock and the temperatures you're reaching 72-73c is approaching a throttle point of the card, it's a built in protection factor same as a CPU.

My load temperature with 2 580GTX combined heat in SLI is your idle temperature, so either lower your game settings, or do not overclock the graphics card, or get yourself better cooling for the GPU.

Because adding more voltage is just going to add more heat, to an already unstable situation.

Too many out here think every graphics card is equally overclockable and they're not, some could be, but come stock fitted with a lousy thermal compound application under the heat sink and MSI is notorious for that.

I'm not suggesting you check that unless you know what you're doing.


yea you are right not every card is the same ofcourse. as i said i was just asking for a reference list only. but to be honest those temps were under stress testing. i believe its normal, since you dont actually push the card that much loaded anyways with usual gaming.

a side note; gtx570 is anyways running hotter than your setup even with stock speeds i could get like ~65C under stress test. thats why i assumed its normal what i was experiencing when its oc'd.

well as i was saying its running fine with all other apps and games when its overclocked but it doesnt really explain why crysis3 cannot take it :/ 


Crysis 3 seriously stresses a graphics card on the higher settings, just because you've run stress tests?

What stress tests are you referring to?

You need to monitor your GPU temperatures during the gaming, you may be surprised at what you discover.

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a c 81 K Overclocking
April 10, 2013 5:24:36 AM

It means your overclock is not stable, and you probably won't be able to overclock your GTX 570. Plain and simple.
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a c 224 K Overclocking
April 10, 2013 5:45:00 AM

manofchalk said:
4Ryan6 said:
My load temperature with 2 580GTX combined heat in SLI is your idle temperature, so either lower your game settings, or do not overclock the graphics card, or get yourself better cooling for the GPU..


Thats hardly fair to say Ryan, you are running the mother of all cooling setups on your rig. Not everyone has their GPU's in their own dedicated water-cooling loop.
Besides, we don't know ambient temperatures. My CPU can hit 40°C at idle on a hot day, despite the fact I do have water-cooling on it.

The newer Kepler cards are fairly limited when it comes to overvolting, and the few board partners that got around it were hammered by Nvidia pretty quickly (Look up the MSI 660ti and 670 overvolting controversy). Far as I know the Fermi cards are fine with it though.

Dont know to be honest, its probably the games issue since it only seems to be an issue there. Maybe try backing off your overclock by 50Mhz or so when playing Crysis 3, that should stabilize it unless it just doesn't like overclocking at all.


First of all we're talking a 570GTX OK!
Not (Look up the MSI 660ti and 670 overvolting controversy)

My cooling has nothing to do with making a correlation of known problems regarding higher settings running Crysis 3 and the additional heat those higher settings brings to the table without overvolting the card.

Sometimes overvolting is the very thing that pushes a card over the stability threshold, if the card itself was at it's maximum capability already.

Just because you buy a graphics card of any kind does not automatically mean it will overclock and remain stable.

Overvolting is no guarantee of overclocking when it comes to graphics cards, because most are already on the cutting edge of their capabilities.

Overvolting is however the fastest way to kill an air cooled GPU.

Can the OP not play the game at the stock settings of his GPU of course he can, he just has to back off the settings he is running in the game, Crysis 3 is not like Crysis 2.

If he wants to run higher game settings he needs to invest in a better graphics solution, because even if he had my cooling, he could not run the higher settings in Crysis 3 with a 570GTX.

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April 10, 2013 5:48:15 AM

ihog said:
It means your overclock is not stable, and you probably won't be able to overclock your GTX 570. Plain and simple.


Affirmative!

That's what I should have said in the beginning!

Thanks! Ryan

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April 10, 2013 7:08:30 AM

4Ryan6 said:
ihog said:
It means your overclock is not stable, and you probably won't be able to overclock your GTX 570. Plain and simple.


Affirmative!

That's what I should have said in the beginning!

Thanks! Ryan



Haha, yeah, I knew you were trying to say; I do the same type of thing all the time.
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a b K Overclocking
April 10, 2013 7:22:06 AM

uhm... i got kind of confused... well any other game (i mean seriously any game) can run with my OC setup with default cooling of gtx570, i just didnt understand why Crysis3 turns up with an error ....

check this out... even a 7970 vaporx turns out with errors in Crysis3 if (even if) slightly overclocked...

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/284138-29-overclock...

i mean i was trying to say maybe its Crysis3's fault? :)  this isnt the 1st time i am hearing this problem...

So.... I really dont think my overclock setup wasnt stable O_o

edit: btw i can run C3 without any problems, with medium to high settings, aa, vsync on, around 40fps on default gpu setup.
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April 10, 2013 9:18:26 AM

n1ghtr4v3n said:
uhm... i got kind of confused... well any other game (i mean seriously any game) can run with my OC setup with default cooling of gtx570, i just didnt understand why Crysis3 turns up with an error ....

check this out... even a 7970 vaporx turns out with errors in Crysis3 if (even if) slightly overclocked...

http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/284138-29-overclock...

i mean i was trying to say maybe its Crysis3's fault? :)  this isnt the 1st time i am hearing this problem...

So.... I really dont think my overclock setup wasnt stable O_o

edit: btw i can run C3 without any problems, with medium to high settings, aa, vsync on, around 40fps on default gpu setup.


I'm not having any problems with an overclocked 580GTX SLI setup, so maybe it's not the games fault after all.

However I am water cooling my graphics cards with full coverage water blocks, meaning not just the GPU is cooled but the on board memory chips and voltage regulators as well.

Maybe you just need to back down the game settings you're running at and try again.

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a c 81 K Overclocking
April 10, 2013 10:11:20 AM

It means Crysis 3 is stressing your GPU more than other games.
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a c 224 K Overclocking
April 10, 2013 10:31:48 AM

@n1ghtr4v3n

You also have your CPU overclocked 800mhz, keep an eye on it's temperature in Crysis 3 as well.
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a b K Overclocking
April 10, 2013 2:34:41 PM

ihog said:
It means Crysis 3 is stressing your GPU more than other games.


ok it stresses mine, maybe... but what about the 7970x vaporx guy ? >.> do you actually read this or just trolling around? O_O
actually not just this guy, i've read many people with gtx680/gtx670/7970/7950 setups also have problem if they try to overclock with C3. just google it you'll see...
(by the way there is a specific error i just cant remember it everybody has the same issue, not like usual overclock freeze or bsod stuff...)

anyways thanks for the answers.
probably ill give up on oc for playing c3 :( 
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a c 81 K Overclocking
April 10, 2013 2:58:55 PM

It probably means that their OC's are not stable, and that Crysis 3 is stressing them more than other games.

Yes, I'm totally trolling around by trying to help you with your problem. I'm the greatest troll in the universe!
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a b K Overclocking
April 10, 2013 8:08:26 PM

It may be Crysis 3, but it may be not.
Low settings are good enough anyway, so IMO you don't need to overclock to acheive medium settings at the very least.

Hope this helps :) 
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a c 224 K Overclocking
April 11, 2013 2:45:29 AM

n1ghtr4v3n said:
but even if I raise the clock rate 5MHz Crysis3 keeps crashing for a weird reason


n1ghtr4v3n said:
ihog said:
It means Crysis 3 is stressing your GPU more than other games.


probably ill give up on oc for playing c3 :( 


If you cannot increase even 5mhz without crashing in Crysis 3, then don't overclock the card is the obvious solution.

5mhz is not going to give you any boost to speak of at all.

Many were upset when Crysis 2 was released because it did not stress their machines like Crysis 1 did, so Crysis 3 was released much more intense in the stress of hardware levels.

It's no big deal if you cannot overclock your card to play the game, you can still play the game without overclocking the GTX570!

Crysis 3 is a great game, I love it, especially using the bow, as a matter of fact I was drawn to this thread from Crysis 3 being in the title.

I've been watching the relationship to CPU/GPU temperatures when playing the game as the CPU temperatures do seriously increases as well, that's why I suggested keeping an eye on that as well.

I wish you all the best! Ryan





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a b K Overclocking
April 11, 2013 5:18:53 AM

indeed... I just wanted to try if it will work with too little OC (+5MHz) but result was bad. So I dont even bother OC'ing for C3 anymore. Maybe not with full details, but at least medium settings works good on default gpu setup. Even with medium settings C3 presents much better graphics feast for user anyway :) 
thanks for help.
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April 11, 2013 5:30:41 AM

Thank You for selecting me for the Best Answer.

I do want to share with you another thread and if you will read the experience I had with my 2 EVGA 580GTX discoveries when I changed the heat sinks to full coverage water blocks, of what was underneath the stock heat sinks on the graphics cards, the reason I'm sharing this is I also discovered almost the same with 2 previous MSI 8800GT cards I owned.

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/id-1649513/variables-hardware-affect-gpus-overclock-limit.html#10646331
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