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(repost) What's a better GPU?

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April 9, 2013 6:37:04 AM

I was wondering what's a better GPU (i will only use 1 GPU)
XFX ATI Radeon HD7870 2GB DDR5 Black (PCI-e)
Or
EVGA Nvidia GeForce GTX660 3GB DDR5 SC Signature2 (PCI-e)

Specs:
GPU: ------
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 (Socket AM3)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition (Socket AM3, 3.40Ghz, 6MB, 125W, Boxed)
PSU: Corsair 600W CX Builder Series V2 PSU
RAM: Corsair 8GB PC3-10666 XMS3 DDR3 SDRAM (4x 2GB, 1333MHz, CL9)

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April 9, 2013 6:42:19 AM

In straight out performance power, the 7870 is the winner, although the 660 is not too far behind with the exception of a 36% difference in pixel rate between the two cards. The 7870 also consumes on average 25% more power (measured in watts).

http://www.hwcompare.com/13302/geforce-gtx-660-vs-radeo...
April 9, 2013 6:45:29 AM

They both offer similar performance. Go for the one you can get for the best deal from a reputable vendor.
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April 9, 2013 6:48:33 AM

SheepyxD said:
In straight out performance power, the 7870 is the winner, although the 660 is not too far behind with the exception of a 36% difference in pixel rate between the two cards. The 7870 also consumes on average 25% more power (measured in watts).

http://www.hwcompare.com/13302/geforce-gtx-660-vs-radeo...


will my 600W psu do a good job for this rig?
April 9, 2013 6:54:00 AM

Yes, it is fine.
April 9, 2013 7:19:35 AM

Marcel Schollen said:
SheepyxD said:
In straight out performance power, the 7870 is the winner, although the 660 is not too far behind with the exception of a 36% difference in pixel rate between the two cards. The 7870 also consumes on average 25% more power (measured in watts).

http://www.hwcompare.com/13302/geforce-gtx-660-vs-radeo...


will my 600W psu do a good job for this rig?


Your 600W PSU should perform without issues on your rig. Keep in mind though that as your parts age, they will begin to require more power to maintain the same clock frequency. Also, if you want to overclock your system, it always nice to have some headroom. Right now, you should be fine though, unless you make a dramatic change to your CPU or video card.
April 9, 2013 7:28:26 AM

SheepyxD said:
Marcel Schollen said:
SheepyxD said:
In straight out performance power, the 7870 is the winner, although the 660 is not too far behind with the exception of a 36% difference in pixel rate between the two cards. The 7870 also consumes on average 25% more power (measured in watts).

http://www.hwcompare.com/13302/geforce-gtx-660-vs-radeo...


will my 600W psu do a good job for this rig?


Your 600W PSU should perform without issues on your rig. Keep in mind though that as your parts age, they will begin to require more power to maintain the same clock frequency. Also, if you want to overclock your system, it always nice to have some headroom. Right now, you should be fine though, unless you make a dramatic change to your CPU or video card.


all my parts are doing great so if a 600W is good then its oke i dont really like overclocking
os thank you for telling me :) 
April 9, 2013 7:45:47 AM

No problem. I'm glad I could help.
April 9, 2013 8:46:35 AM

SheepyxD said:
No problem. I'm glad I could help.


does the XFX ATI Radeon HD7870 2GB DDR5 Black have some sort of surround (eyefinity maybe)
and would it be able to play games on 3 monitors (then ofcouse i will put the games on low settings)
or would it be smarter to do a GTX 660 for this?

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April 9, 2013 8:55:14 AM
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AMD and NVIDIA both have their multi-monitor technology, AMD's eyefinity though is regarded to be easier to use, and more effective which I completely agree with. So go with the 7870 for multi monitor, although 2GB of GGDR5 is usually regarded as the minimum for multi-monitor gaming, even if you do turn down the resolution.

Everything you need to know on your card: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/78...

Have you considered the 7950? This is the card I am using right now (the 3GB vers.) and it can play any game on the market without issue. The most intensive game I have come across is Bioshock Inifnite, and on MAx it stayed at 66fps.
April 11, 2013 6:18:29 AM

SheepyxD said:
AMD and NVIDIA both have their multi-monitor technology, AMD's eyefinity though is regarded to be easier to use, and more effective which I completely agree with. So go with the 7870 for multi monitor, although 2GB of GGDR5 is usually regarded as the minimum for multi-monitor gaming, even if you do turn down the resolution.

Everything you need to know on your card: http://www.amd.com/us/products/desktop/graphics/7000/78...

Have you considered the 7950? This is the card I am using right now (the 3GB vers.) and it can play any game on the market without issue. The most intensive game I have come across is Bioshock Inifnite, and on MAx it stayed at 66fps.


oke thank you i did the 7950 but will this give any problems with my Specs?

Specs:
GPU: XFX ATI Radeon HD7950 3GB DDR5 Black (PCI-e)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 (Socket AM3)
CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition (Socket AM3, 3.40Ghz, 6MB, 125W, Boxed)
PSU: Corsair 600W CX Builder Series V2 PSU
RAM: Corsair 8GB PC3-10666 XMS3 DDR3 SDRAM (4x 2GB, 1333MHz, CL9)
April 11, 2013 7:03:13 AM

You shouldn't have any problems, although your MOBO is a bit out of date. It has a gen 2 PCIE x16 slot, not a gen 3, but that will not be a problem. The cards don't even fully take advantage of the GEN 2.0 yet. Your PSU should be good, but you can always run a quick check with all your stats here: http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/Power . Everything else seems to be good :) 
April 11, 2013 7:16:24 AM

SheepyxD said:
You shouldn't have any problems, although your MOBO is a bit out of date. It has a gen 2 PCIE x16 slot, not a gen 3, but that will not be a problem. The cards don't even fully take advantage of the GEN 2.0 yet. Your PSU should be good, but you can always run a quick check with all your stats here: http://www.thermaltake.outervision.com/Power . Everything else seems to be good :) 


what about this MOBO? Asus M5A97 EVO R2.0 (Socket AM3)
April 11, 2013 7:58:55 AM

Nope, that MOBO has an AM3+ socket, not the same as an AM3. To think of it, so does your previous MOBO. Here is a quality MOBO for your CPUs AM3 socket. Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga870.... Your CPU is pretty out of date, and I wouldn't purchase it new right now. It was released back in 2010. I would get something from 2012 if possible for you. If you're willing, I can help you pick out a newer AMD CPU and MOBO to go with it.
April 11, 2013 8:03:19 AM

SheepyxD said:
Nope, that MOBO has an AM3+ socket, not the same as an AM3. To think of it, so does your previous MOBO. Here is a quality MOBO for your CPUs AM3 socket. Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3. http://pcpartpicker.com/part/gigabyte-motherboard-ga870.... Your CPU is pretty out of date, and I wouldn't purchase it new right now. It was released back in 2010. I would get something from 2012 if possible for you. If you're willing, I can help you pick out a newer AMD CPU and MOBO to go with it.

AMD FX-4100 Black Edition (Socket AM3)?
April 11, 2013 8:10:42 AM

That would work, it has a socket AM3+ socket, so it would work with your first motherboard, the Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3. Althought this one, the GA-990FXA-UD5, has more features by a lot! Only about 60$ more. If english isn't your first language, and is preventing you from saying something please type it your first language and I can translate it.
April 11, 2013 8:12:52 AM

SheepyxD said:
That would work, it has a socket AM3+ socket, so it would work with your first motherboard, the Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3. Althought this one, the GA-990FXA-UD5, has more features by a lot! Only about 60$ more. If english isn't your first language, and is preventing you from saying something please type it your first language and I can translate it.

what about this MOBO? MSI 990FXA-GD65
April 11, 2013 8:16:29 AM

Yea that works great with your new CPU.
April 11, 2013 8:22:44 AM

SheepyxD said:
Yea that works great with your new CPU.


now this is my setup

CPU: AMD FX-6100 Black Edition (Socket AM3, 3.30Ghz)
MOBO: MSI 990FXA-GD65 (Socket AM3)
GPU: XFX ATI Radeon HD7950 3GB DDR5 Black (PCI-e)
PSU: Corsair 600W CX Builder Series V2
RAM: Corsair 8GB PC3-10666 XMS3 DDR3 SDRAM (4x 2GB, 1333MHz, CL9)
Case: Antec One MidiTower Black
April 11, 2013 11:05:10 AM

Yeah works fine, I can't see any compatibility issues with it! Don't forget to purchase a harddrive, or SSD and possibly an optical drive.
April 11, 2013 11:24:53 AM

SheepyxD said:
Yeah works fine, I can't see any compatibility issues with it! Don't forget to purchase a harddrive, or SSD and possibly an optical drive.


i already have an optical drive and 1TB HDD :) 
but my max is 650$ to spend and im at 640$ now so hm i wont purchase anything more
April 11, 2013 11:33:42 AM

Fantastic, I hope you enjoy your new PC!
April 11, 2013 12:43:31 PM

SheepyxD said:
Fantastic, I hope you enjoy your new PC!


Thank you for all your help!
August 12, 2013 8:36:21 AM

I changed the best answer because hwcompare isn't very good for comparing the output of the cards. Raw stats like fill rates sure, but that doesn't always copy over to better performance.

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Keep in mind though that as your parts age, they will begin to require more power to maintain the same clock frequency.


Not quite true as I understand things. What happens is as you use a PSU, the parts "age" and they aren't able to output power like they used to. Usually referred to as capacitor aging. But assuming your 600W PSU can actually output what it claims it can then you won't have any issues.
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