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April 9, 2013 3:58:25 PM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PAKh

should i change anything? im a little lost with my mobo which is the best ?

asrock: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

gigabyte: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

no OC's :) 

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April 9, 2013 4:20:16 PM

Stick to your original build ...
GiGabyte is the winner, better crossfire and best components

this looks very solid gamer
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April 9, 2013 4:20:16 PM

If you're not OC'ing, never planning to OC or will never OC at all, I see no reason to buy AMD. You're better off with a non-K Intel i5 with a budget B75 or H77 motherboard.

Anyways, Intel aside, the build you listed is great (though it is an overclocking build). I would add an after-market CPU cooler (such as Corsair H100i, H100 or Noctua NH-D14 but check if they fit your case first) so I could overclock safely.

Also, there really isn't a need for the case fans unless you're overclocking your CPU and GPU to extremely high clocks or you just want reassurance. They are probably better than the fans the case comes with, and would most likely last longer. Just get them if you insist, or if spending that extra money doesn't bother you.

As for the motherboard, I'd for the Gigabyte. It's only $10-20 more, after all.

For the case, I'd probably go for a Fractal Design Arc or HAF 912 just because they're cheaper and have good cooling. The CM Storm Enforcer is a good case, though. If it's your preference, just go for it.

EDIT: All your other components are great. If you want to crossfire, consider getting a higher wattage PSU, something like 750W.
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April 9, 2013 4:42:43 PM

^ +1 to the fact that if you arent overclocking, intel rig is cheaper. would never recommend closed loops though

get this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PBy2

-no reason to get fx when you arent overclocking
-cheaper and better performing ram
-bigger hard drive. dont waste your time with black drives
-much faster and much cheaper SSD
-better case
-no need for thermal paste. stock stuff is good enough
-no need for case fans. dont increase temps that much unless you are in a environment that is constantly 30+ C
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April 9, 2013 4:46:06 PM

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Anyways, Intel aside, the build you listed is great (though it is an overclocking build). I would add an after-market CPU cooler (such as Corsair H100i, H100 or Noctua NH-D14 but check if they fit your case first) so I could overclock safely.

Also, there really isn't a need for the case fans unless you're overclocking your CPU and GPU to extremely high clocks or you just want reassurance. They are probably better than the fans the case comes with, and would most likely last longer. Just get them if you insist, or if spending that extra money doesn't bother you.

As for the motherboard, I'd for the Gigabyte. It's only $10-20 more, after all.

For the case, I'd probably go for a Fractal Design Arc or HAF 912 just because they're cheaper and have good cooling. The CM Storm Enforcer is a good case, though. If it's your preference, just go for it.

EDIT: All your other components are great. If you want to crossfire, consider getting a higher wattage PSU, something like 750W.


let's say im gonna OC . should i upgrade my psu ?

about coolers cm hyper 212 evo good or bad?
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April 9, 2013 6:09:00 PM

iBlitz said:
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Anyways, Intel aside, the build you listed is great (though it is an overclocking build). I would add an after-market CPU cooler (such as Corsair H100i, H100 or Noctua NH-D14 but check if they fit your case first) so I could overclock safely.

Also, there really isn't a need for the case fans unless you're overclocking your CPU and GPU to extremely high clocks or you just want reassurance. They are probably better than the fans the case comes with, and would most likely last longer. Just get them if you insist, or if spending that extra money doesn't bother you.

As for the motherboard, I'd for the Gigabyte. It's only $10-20 more, after all.

For the case, I'd probably go for a Fractal Design Arc or HAF 912 just because they're cheaper and have good cooling. The CM Storm Enforcer is a good case, though. If it's your preference, just go for it.

EDIT: All your other components are great. If you want to crossfire, consider getting a higher wattage PSU, something like 750W.


let's say im gonna OC . should i upgrade my psu ?

about coolers cm hyper 212 evo good or bad?


how much is your so called OC? because anything under 4.5ghz on fx you are wasting your time
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April 10, 2013 1:18:19 AM

iBlitz said:
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Anyways, Intel aside, the build you listed is great (though it is an overclocking build). I would add an after-market CPU cooler (such as Corsair H100i, H100 or Noctua NH-D14 but check if they fit your case first) so I could overclock safely.

Also, there really isn't a need for the case fans unless you're overclocking your CPU and GPU to extremely high clocks or you just want reassurance. They are probably better than the fans the case comes with, and would most likely last longer. Just get them if you insist, or if spending that extra money doesn't bother you.

As for the motherboard, I'd for the Gigabyte. It's only $10-20 more, after all.

For the case, I'd probably go for a Fractal Design Arc or HAF 912 just because they're cheaper and have good cooling. The CM Storm Enforcer is a good case, though. If it's your preference, just go for it.

EDIT: All your other components are great. If you want to crossfire, consider getting a higher wattage PSU, something like 750W.


let's say im gonna OC . should i upgrade my psu ?

about coolers cm hyper 212 evo good or bad?


No, it won't be essential to change the PSU, but I would probably go 50 watts more and get 600W PSU (for OC'ing). The Hyper 212 Evo won't be strong enough for the FX if you're going to overclock 4.7GHz+. I'd go for a Noctua NH-D14.
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April 10, 2013 1:39:07 AM

Its an odd build for an AMD system with lots of wasted money
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April 10, 2013 3:01:37 AM

Outlander_04 said:
Its an odd build for an AMD system with lots of wasted money


that's why im asking if you're not here to help me then you can bug someone else :) 
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April 10, 2013 4:23:27 AM

TheBigTroll said:
^ +1 to the fact that if you arent overclocking, intel rig is cheaper. would never recommend closed loops though

get this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PBy2

-no reason to get fx when you arent overclocking
-cheaper and better performing ram
-bigger hard drive. dont waste your time with black drives
-much faster and much cheaper SSD
-better case
-no need for thermal paste. stock stuff is good enough
-no need for case fans. dont increase temps that much unless you are in a environment that is constantly 30+ C


Keep in mind that we're not talking about overclocking, the core i5 doesn't originally support RAM speed 1866 (maximum 1600)...so the only way to get the speed to it's default is to OC , or get a 1600 RAM
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April 10, 2013 4:27:11 AM

yasserBasha said:
TheBigTroll said:
^ +1 to the fact that if you arent overclocking, intel rig is cheaper. would never recommend closed loops though

get this
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/PBy2

-no reason to get fx when you arent overclocking
-cheaper and better performing ram
-bigger hard drive. dont waste your time with black drives
-much faster and much cheaper SSD
-better case
-no need for thermal paste. stock stuff is good enough
-no need for case fans. dont increase temps that much unless you are in a environment that is constantly 30+ C


Keep in mind that we're not talking about overclocking, the core i5 doesn't originally support RAM speed 1866 (maximum 1600)...so the only way to get the speed to it's default is to OC , or get a 1600 RAM


its not overclocking when all you have to do is turn on xmp profile.
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April 10, 2013 4:43:13 AM

XMP is Ram Overclocking for newbies.It's nothing more than an "automatic overclocking" tool. People who really want to push their systems to get the most performance don't use it. Plus Why do you want to run at 1866 when you won't notice much performance difference unless you're benchmarking ??
If you don't want to OC don't turn around to look for OC'ing tools
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April 10, 2013 4:48:30 AM

yasserBasha said:
XMP is Ram Overclocking for newbies.It's nothing more than an "automatic overclocking" tool. People who really want to push their systems to get the most performance don't use it. Plus Why do you want to run at 1866 when you won't notice much performance difference unless you're benchmarking ??
If you don't want to OC don't turn around to look for OC'ing tools


i know it doesnt matter if you run at 1866 or 1600mhz. i usually never recommend anything higher than 1600mhz. but then if you look at the pricing, the 1866 kit is almost 10 bucks cheaper. and if you have the capability of running 1866 to get that marginal increase in speed, why not bother with tweaking it?
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April 10, 2013 4:50:39 AM

if you are telling me to get 1600mhz ram when the 1866 kit is cheaper, you are basically telling me to spend more to perform worse
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April 10, 2013 5:11:17 AM

NO.1 .. you should choose your words before judging, 1600MHz will give you the maximum performance w/CPU & RAM, 1866 won't unless you OC(NOT by noob's method you said)
NO.2 the patriot is cheaper i know ... but there is a reason that Corsair and G.skill are top brands in RAM (hint: made for OC'rs)
NO.3 if you're getting 1866 .. get AMD, it's just that
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April 10, 2013 5:16:21 AM

1) there is a marginal increase in performance by using 1866mhz ram. its tiny, but it is something
2) so why would amd and intel get patriot to make ram for them if they know it would be low quality. they arent dumb when they pick a company to represent them
3) nope. ivy bridge has a better intergrated mem controller. you are way more likely to run 1866mhz on a ivy bridge chip than on a fx chip.

if you are thinking about fast ram helping a AMD system, it only really applies to a APU
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April 10, 2013 5:18:12 AM

The difference between 1600mhz RAM and 1866mhz RAM is around 1-3fps in game. Sometimes none at all. Just buy whatever is cheaper.
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April 10, 2013 5:19:37 AM

and also, if you say ram speeds above 1600mhz is useless, so why would companies make high speed kits up to 3ghz when "it wont increase performance"?
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April 10, 2013 5:32:18 AM

didn't say it won't increase performance .. i said that Intel isn't dumb to state that the cpu's support is 1600 max.
patriot is good brand but for OC'rs there are other better (companies don't pick ram brands to represent based on OC'ing results)
3- YOU specifically stated your build for non-overclocers ...and 1866 needs at least XMP (automatic overclocking tool ), so why are you arguing with me ?
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April 10, 2013 5:38:55 AM

1600mhz is the max speed that intel specified for ram to be plugged in and ran at by default. it doesnt mean that its the max operating speed is 1600mhz

companies pick brands for reliability. it isnt cheaper because it wont overclock because all ram chips generally wont overclock beyond their rated speed (samsung sticks are an exception)

so what? it doesnt mean he has to run at 1866mhz. if he just left the sticks in as is, it will run fine all by itself. if he wants to move his ram up a notch by pressing 2 clocks on a mouse, he has the option. its not like its going to cost him anything unlike a k series build
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April 10, 2013 5:42:34 AM

TheBigTroll said:
1600mhz is the max speed that intel specified for ram to be plugged in and ran at by default. it doesnt mean that its the max operating speed is 1600mhz

companies pick brands for reliability. it isnt cheaper because it wont overclock because all ram chips generally wont overclock beyond their rated speed (samsung sticks are an exception)

so what? it doesnt mean he has to run at 1866mhz. if he just left the sticks in as is, it will run fine all by itself. if he wants to move his ram up a notch by pressing 2 clocks on a mouse, he has the option. its not like its going to cost him anything unlike a k series build

+1 for having decent sense about RAM...
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April 10, 2013 6:00:23 AM

Well guess I learned something about RAM today :p 
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April 10, 2013 2:06:12 PM

well i wasnt expecting learning more on rams i was expecting to learn more on amd stuffs :) ))
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April 10, 2013 2:08:21 PM

Was the original question answered? If not then I will answer it for you :p 
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April 10, 2013 2:41:33 PM

I say you just get what YOU want, regardless if you never intend to overclock or not. The idea that you shouldn't get AMD if you don't plan to overclock is just stupid. People just don't seem to realize that it doesn't HAVE to be Intel all the time. People can have AMD CPUs, not overclock them, and still have a perfectly enjoyable gaming experience.

I'm sorry if I couldn't help you much, but I just wanted to say that you should just get what YOU want. If you want AMD and don't plan to overclock, that doesn't mean it's a waste. However, look at it this way, should you ever want to overclock, the FX chips are way more than capable of doing so.

Now then, on to your prospective build...

The FX 8320 looks good. If you want to save a few bucks, go for the FX-6300. The most important thing to remember is to avoid the "Zambezi" chips, as they are from the Bulldozer line. Youpicked the updated "Vishera" which is Piledriver, so that's excellent.

There's no need for aftermarket thermal paste, so you can take that off your part list.

Stick with the Gigabyte board. No problems there.

For the RAM, I would go with Corsair Vengeance 8GB 1600, or something similar from G Skill, like their Ripjaws series.

You should change the hard drive from a Caviar Black to a Caviar Blue, 1TB to save a few bucks.

Think hard here. Do you REALLY, REALLY need a sound card? That could be $60 bucks saved and put towards something more important.

Case is a matter of personal preference, so nothing to note here.

For now, you could go with one of each fan instead of two of each if you wanted to save more money.

The power supply looks good. The fact that it's 80 Plus Gold certified means it will be extremely efficient. To be on the safe side, you could get a 600W PSU.

Now, with the money you would save from nixing the thermal paste ($15), the sound card ($60) and two of the case fans ($37 combined), that's a whopping $112 bucks you could put towards an HD 7970 GPU! Doesn't that sound nice? :) 

I hope I was able to help. Good luck with your build! :D 



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April 11, 2013 7:23:56 AM

Finally ... someone who has REAL sense, great posting Gmr_Girl
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