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Will the Phenom x4 9750 bottleneck a GTX 580?

I'm upgrading an old desktop soon, I want to keep the motherboard so that windows will stay valid. it's an am2+ socket, and i want to put a Phenom x4 9750 in there. Will this bottleneck a Gtx 580? Or should i try to go for a lower end teir card like a 570 or 560 ti? I could overclock, but im ona stock OEM motherboard, and i dont know if it will survive that.

Motherboard: http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c01701270
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  1. No way man, Phenom x4 9750 bottleneck a GTX 580 @ 1920x1080p Well not in most games :)
    Mobo will be fine for it seems like it has the PCIE2.0x16 slot for the Card
    Thanks
  2. Yes, a Phenom 9750 is going to bottleneck a GTX 580. What GPU are you using now?
  3. imomun said:
    No way man, Phenom x4 9750 bottleneck a GTX 580 @ 1920x1080p Well not in most games :)
    Mobo will be fine for it seems like it has the PCIE2.0x16 slot for the Card
    Thanks


    So it won't?
  4. COLGeek said:
    Yes, a Phenom 9750 is going to bottleneck a GTX 580. What GPU are you using now?


    I'm on a pentium 4 with integrated mobo graphics, thats why i want such an upgrade with whats givin to me
  5. Best answer
    The Phenom 9750 is an old AM2+ 2.4Ghz CPU. The mobo uses older (slower) DDR2 memory and that mobo can't OC. It will definitely be a bottleneck for a higher end GPU.
  6. xXComputer_Nerd1625Xx said:
    imomun said:
    No way man, Phenom x4 9750 bottleneck a GTX 580 @ 1920x1080p Well not in most games :)
    Mobo will be fine for it seems like it has the PCIE2.0x16 slot for the Card
    Thanks


    So it won't?


    As long you overclock that is :)
    But ya not @ 1080p except games like crysis3 skyrim,
    Thanks

    COLGeek said:
    The Phenom 9750 is an old AM2+ 2.4Ghz CPU. The mobo uses older (slower) DDR2 memory and that mobo can't OC. It will definitely be a bottleneck for a higher end GPU.


    He got some point aswell its ddr2 hmmm
    well go for a step behind GTX560 TI still good for 1080p
    Happy gaming
  7. That is an OEM mobo. No OC there, my friend.
  8. COLGeek said:
    The Phenom 9750 is an old AM2+ 2.4Ghz CPU. The mobo uses older (slower) DDR2 memory and that mobo can't OC. It will definitely be a bottleneck for a higher end GPU.


    right :/ so what about something like a gtx 560 ti? im playing at 1600x900
  9. Yes it will bottleneck.
  10. Operating at a lower resolution will help lower the processing burden and the bottleneck. Going from an integrated GPU to even a GTX 560 ti will be a huge leap in performance.

    What games are you playing (plan to play)?
  11. Just looked at the mobo I feel sorry to look at it
    http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf-JAVA/Doc/images/302/c01701274.jpg" class="img lazy">
    Im sorry OP looks like its time for you to do a complete pc upgrade :)
    But hey if you do a complete PC upgrade atleast get a good card now like a GTX 650 TI boost or HD7850 so you can use later with new pc.
    Still Happy Gaming :)
  12. COLGeek said:
    Operating at a lower resolution will help lower the processing burden and the bottleneck. Going from an integrated GPU to even a GTX 560 ti will be a huge leap in performance.

    What games are you playing (plan to play)?


    Just the usual stuff, far cry 3, battlefield 3, crysis, and the like...they dont have to be ultra settings, but around high would be prefered...This will be my first time having actual good hardware, so im basically a newb because ive never really gamed
  13. imomun said:
    Just looked at the mobo I feel sorry to look at it

    Im sorry OP looks like its time for you to do a complete pc upgrade :)
    But hey if you do a complete PC upgrade atleast get a good card now like a GTX 650 TI boost or HD7850 so you can use later with new pc.
    Still Happy Gaming :)


    i figured it would be cheaper just to upgrade, i was kinda hoping to hang on the the motherboard for windows sake...
  14. COLGeek said:
    Operating at a lower resolution will help lower the processing burden and the bottleneck. Going from an integrated GPU to even a GTX 560 ti will be a huge leap in performance.

    What games are you playing (plan to play)?


    How big is the bottleneck? is it a major one or a minor one?
  15. xXComputer_Nerd1625Xx said:
    COLGeek said:
    Operating at a lower resolution will help lower the processing burden and the bottleneck. Going from an integrated GPU to even a GTX 560 ti will be a huge leap in performance.

    What games are you playing (plan to play)?


    How big is the bottleneck? is it a major one or a minor one?

    Depending on the game and it's video setings, you could make the bottleneck worse. Try running them at medium to high settings (not "ultra"), that could help lessen the processing burden.
  16. COLGeek said:
    xXComputer_Nerd1625Xx said:
    COLGeek said:
    Operating at a lower resolution will help lower the processing burden and the bottleneck. Going from an integrated GPU to even a GTX 560 ti will be a huge leap in performance.

    What games are you playing (plan to play)?


    How big is the bottleneck? is it a major one or a minor one?

    Depending on the game and it's video setings, you could make the bottleneck worse. Try running them at medium to high settings (not "ultra"), that could help lessen the processing burden.


    Oh, i guess ill have to upgrade the motherboard, which means a new copy of windows :( but what if I used the windows cd and used the old oem code that came with the computer? Would it be technically correct but incorrect at the same time? Then wouldn't I do the automated activation thing?
  17. xXComputer_Nerd1625Xx said:
    COLGeek said:
    xXComputer_Nerd1625Xx said:
    COLGeek said:
    Operating at a lower resolution will help lower the processing burden and the bottleneck. Going from an integrated GPU to even a GTX 560 ti will be a huge leap in performance.

    What games are you playing (plan to play)?


    How big is the bottleneck? is it a major one or a minor one?

    Depending on the game and it's video setings, you could make the bottleneck worse. Try running them at medium to high settings (not "ultra"), that could help lessen the processing burden.


    Oh, i guess ill have to upgrade the motherboard, which means a new copy of windows :( but what if I used the windows cd and used the old oem code that came with the computer? Would it be technically correct but incorrect at the same time? Then wouldn't I do the automated activation thing?


    No, it wouldn't work. You're going to have to get a new copy of Windows.
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  19. As imomun suggested best to get a new pc
    that old slug can rest in peace instead
    you probably can get i3 based pc now days less than £400
  20. COLGeek said:
    Previous post deleted by moderator.

    No "coughing" unless you want to face the wrath of a moderator's ban hammer. Tom's Forums do not support any form of software piracy.


    Well then... What if I went ahead and got the phenom 9750, but got a Radeon 5770 instead? A friend of mine says it can play all his games on max settings
  21. At what frame rate and resolution? The HD5770 is not a stronger GPU than the ones you previously mentioned. Still it is an okay GPU.

    What are you paying for the motherboard and CPU we have been discussing?
  22. COLGeek said:
    At what frame rate and resolution? The HD5770 is not a stronger GPU than the ones you previously mentioned. Still it is an okay GPU.

    What are you paying for the motherboard and CPU we have been discussing?


    The motherboard is the stock one that came in the computer, it currently has a sempron :/ I was gonna pay around $60-$75 for the CPU, since that's the highest the mobo will support

    He never specified the resolution, but claims he gets 60+ fps on crysis 2 on ultra settings :/
  23. Understood. How much memory are you using and are you using 32-bit or 64-bit Win 7?

    BTW, you'll want to upgrade your heatsink if you go with the 9750. The OEM ones used with the Semprons may not be sufficient for the 9750.
  24. COLGeek said:
    Understood. How much memory are you using and are you using 32-bit or 64-bit Win 7?

    BTW, you'll want to upgrade your heatsink if you go with the 9750. The OEM ones used with the Semprons may not be sufficient for the 9750.

    It's windows 7 64 bit, it currently has 2gb and I'm gonna upgrade to 4gb at 800mhz. As for the cooler, I'm gonna get a rose will one for about $15 that looks sufficient
  25. OK, for the small amount you are spending to upgrade, you shouldn't feel too bad about upgrading to a much newer (more capable) system.

    Are you located in the US?
  26. COLGeek said:
    OK, for the small amount you are spending to upgrade, you shouldn't feel too bad about upgrading to a much newer (more capable) system.

    Are you located in the US?


    Yeah, I am on strictly on a $300 budget though... I am 14, and I don't have a source of income, so I'm left with what I've got
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