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Cheapest Gaming PC build that can run BF3 on low with at least 100FPS and of course Minecraft

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April 10, 2013 7:59:37 PM

Well im not rich and this will be my first PC. Ive never owned an actual gaming PC and want one so bad. My goal is to save up and get it ASAP! If the awesome community at Toms hardware could help me out Id be ecstatic! Im also gonna need OS. I want Windows 7. Thats what im used too. I also have to get a monitor. I would like a 1080p monitor but if i cant get it im not too concerned. my laptop i have runs on 1366x768 and i actually like it. I have zero experience as well with building PC but have many PC fanatic friends who can help. Thanks!
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April 10, 2013 8:16:33 PM

What will your expected budget be?

No single card can do over 100fps(unless you turn down settings) at 1080p except I think a titan and a 690, but those are very expensive cards.

We can put together a build list for you once we know your budget.
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April 10, 2013 8:25:33 PM

edogawa said:
What will your expected budget be?

No single card can do over 100fps(unless you turn down settings) at 1080p except I think a titan and a 690, but those are very expensive cards.

We can put together a build list for you once we know your budget.


I am looking to play on LOW settings so whatever the best card you guys think can do it and give me good FPS im happy with. Also Im not sure lets say $400 to $600 i think would be cool. Thanks very much :)  Also it doesn't have to be 1080p. Im fine with 1366x768 :) 
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April 10, 2013 8:35:12 PM

Here is my suggestion... http://pcpartpicker.com/user/thehiddenlotus/saved/1qCG

$450 AMD APU build with Windows 7.

It can run BF3 at just about 60fps on low at 1366x768. Don't know about 1920x1080.


CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core $128.78

Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi A85W ATX FM2 $62.00

Memory: Corsair XMS3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $33.24

Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM $54.98

Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower $29.99

Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V $44.98

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98

Total: $443.95
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April 10, 2013 8:43:50 PM

thehiddenlotus said:
Here is my suggestion... http://pcpartpicker.com/user/thehiddenlotus/saved/1qCG

$450 AMD APU build with Windows 7.

It can run BF3 at just about 60fps on low at 1366x768. Don't know about 1920x1080.


CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core $128.78

Motherboard: Biostar Hi-Fi A85W ATX FM2 $62.00

Memory: Corsair XMS3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 $33.24

Storage: Toshiba 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM $54.98

Case: Cooler Master Elite 430 ATX Mid Tower $29.99

Power Supply: Corsair 430W ATX12V $44.98

Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) $89.98

Total: $443.95


This is a good one. I want to see how many people respond and go from there. The CPU has integrated graphics is that what it is?
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April 10, 2013 9:03:54 PM

crazykilla075 said:


This is a good one. I want to see how many people respond and go from there. The CPU has integrated graphics is that what it is?


Exactly ;)  the AMD APU is a CPU and GPU combined.
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April 10, 2013 9:13:00 PM

thehiddenlotus said:
crazykilla075 said:


This is a good one. I want to see how many people respond and go from there. The CPU has integrated graphics is that what it is?


Exactly ;)  the AMD APU is a CPU and GPU combined.


wouldn't i loose performance with integrated graphics compared to a graphics card?
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April 10, 2013 9:19:55 PM

edogawa said:
Have you seen the 500 build here:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/budget-gaming-do-it...

Integrated graphics are a lot weaker than dedicated graphics cards.


what kind of FPS you think this PC could give me on low and on 1280x720 resolution?

nevermind i found a benchmark for the current $500 gaming rig. I must say im very happy with the benchmarks. I think i found what im gonna go with.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 10, 2013 9:23:35 PM

From the link I gave you:

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April 10, 2013 9:27:02 PM

edogawa said:
From the link I gave you:



is there a link for where to buy all the parts? im trying to find one
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a b 4 Gaming
April 10, 2013 9:32:31 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G850 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($82.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($175.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill Blackbone ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($39.15 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $543.62
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-11 00:32 EDT-0400)
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April 10, 2013 9:33:26 PM

edogawa said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G850 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($74.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($82.55 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($52.00 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 320GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($175.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Rosewill Blackbone ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Antec 450W ATX12V Power Supply ($39.15 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $543.62
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-11 00:32 EDT-0400)


Thanks alot man. Im also gonna have to get the OS which i want Windows 7 and i also need a monitor so yeah probably another couple hundred bucks
also 2 questions. what kind of monitor would be good for this setup? second question is what kind of OS? i want Windows 7 but i mean home premium, pro,ultimate? 32bit or 64? Thanks
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April 11, 2013 10:35:10 AM

crazykilla075 said:
edogawa said:
Go premium.

You should be able to choose one on your own:

http://www.newegg.com/LCD-Monitors/SubCategory/ID-20?Or...


One more question! This cpu has integrated graphics as well. Can i have a GPU and integrated graphics? Im assuming id have to turn of the integrated and just use the card?


Don't worry, it won't affect anything. The PC will use the dedicated GPU over the integrated.
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April 11, 2013 1:07:54 PM

edogawa said:
crazykilla075 said:
edogawa said:
Go premium.

You should be able to choose one on your own:

http://www.newegg.com/LCD-Monitors/SubCategory/ID-20?Or...


One more question! This cpu has integrated graphics as well. Can i have a GPU and integrated graphics? Im assuming id have to turn of the integrated and just use the card?


Don't worry, it won't affect anything. The PC will use the dedicated GPU over the integrated.


Ok thats all i needed to know. Thanks alot. Either way my friend is a big gamer and knows alot when it comes to PCs so he will help me out. Do you think id need someone to put it together or do you know i could do it myself? Like seeing as i don't know a whole lot do you think i could put it together myself? Im sure i could id be too afraid to screw up something. My main concern would be putting the CPU and then installing the heat sink or thermal paste and what not. I know i can install windows too thats easy ive done that before. i know my friend would put it together if i asked him but i'd feel alot better about myself and PC if i did it myself. i hear its not that hard i just dont want something to break. lol
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April 11, 2013 1:13:09 PM

crazykilla075 said:
edogawa said:
crazykilla075 said:
edogawa said:
Go premium.

You should be able to choose one on your own:

http://www.newegg.com/LCD-Monitors/SubCategory/ID-20?Or...


One more question! This cpu has integrated graphics as well. Can i have a GPU and integrated graphics? Im assuming id have to turn of the integrated and just use the card?


Don't worry, it won't affect anything. The PC will use the dedicated GPU over the integrated.


Ok thats all i needed to know. Thanks alot. Either way my friend is a big gamer and knows alot when it comes to PCs so he will help me out. Do you think id need someone to put it together or do you know i could do it myself? Like seeing as i don't know a whole lot do you think i could put it together myself? Im sure i could id be too afraid to screw up something. My main concern would be putting the CPU and then installing the heat sink or thermal paste and what not. I know i can install windows too thats easy ive done that before. i know my friend would put it together if i asked him but i'd feel alot better about myself and PC if i did it myself. i hear its not that hard i just dont want something to break. lol


You can watch some videos online on how to put it together since it isn't that hard.
Also remember to always be grounded and to touch a metal object every so often to make sure static doesn't ruin your parts.
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April 11, 2013 1:23:51 PM

Cyanide Reverse said:
crazykilla075 said:
edogawa said:
crazykilla075 said:
edogawa said:
Go premium.

You should be able to choose one on your own:

http://www.newegg.com/LCD-Monitors/SubCategory/ID-20?Or...


One more question! This cpu has integrated graphics as well. Can i have a GPU and integrated graphics? Im assuming id have to turn of the integrated and just use the card?


Don't worry, it won't affect anything. The PC will use the dedicated GPU over the integrated.


Ok thats all i needed to know. Thanks alot. Either way my friend is a big gamer and knows alot when it comes to PCs so he will help me out. Do you think id need someone to put it together or do you know i could do it myself? Like seeing as i don't know a whole lot do you think i could put it together myself? Im sure i could id be too afraid to screw up something. My main concern would be putting the CPU and then installing the heat sink or thermal paste and what not. I know i can install windows too thats easy ive done that before. i know my friend would put it together if i asked him but i'd feel alot better about myself and PC if i did it myself. i hear its not that hard i just dont want something to break. lol


You can watch some videos online on how to put it together since it isn't that hard.
Also remember to always be grounded and to touch a metal object every so often to make sure static doesn't ruin your parts.


What do you mean by grounded? I probably should wear rubber gloves? or hospital latex gloves maybe? Im a nub with PC so lol sorry if i dont get what you mean :) 
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April 11, 2013 1:28:39 PM

crazykilla075 said:
Cyanide Reverse said:
crazykilla075 said:
edogawa said:
crazykilla075 said:
edogawa said:
Go premium.

You should be able to choose one on your own:

http://www.newegg.com/LCD-Monitors/SubCategory/ID-20?Or...


One more question! This cpu has integrated graphics as well. Can i have a GPU and integrated graphics? Im assuming id have to turn of the integrated and just use the card?


Don't worry, it won't affect anything. The PC will use the dedicated GPU over the integrated.


Ok thats all i needed to know. Thanks alot. Either way my friend is a big gamer and knows alot when it comes to PCs so he will help me out. Do you think id need someone to put it together or do you know i could do it myself? Like seeing as i don't know a whole lot do you think i could put it together myself? Im sure i could id be too afraid to screw up something. My main concern would be putting the CPU and then installing the heat sink or thermal paste and what not. I know i can install windows too thats easy ive done that before. i know my friend would put it together if i asked him but i'd feel alot better about myself and PC if i did it myself. i hear its not that hard i just dont want something to break. lol


You can watch some videos online on how to put it together since it isn't that hard.
Also remember to always be grounded and to touch a metal object every so often to make sure static doesn't ruin your parts.


What do you mean by grounded? I probably should wear rubber gloves? or hospital latex gloves maybe? Im a nub with PC so lol sorry if i dont get what you mean :) 


by grounded I mean you should dissipate your static into some metal ie. touching your case occasionaly, also I never though of using rubber gloves O.O that would probably work but it'll more fidgety :p  or if you're scared you would do it wrong then you can buy an anti static bracelet which will keep you grounded as well.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 11, 2013 3:46:24 PM

Just touch the PC case occasionally, don't stand on a carpet, and don't get water near parts and you will be fine. Once you get motherboard and processor in the rest is a piece of cake. I don't usually wear gloves and have never ruined a piece of hardware.
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April 11, 2013 7:55:27 PM

edogawa said:
Just touch the PC case occasionally, don't stand on a carpet, and don't get water near parts and you will be fine. Once you get motherboard and processor in the rest is a piece of cake. I don't usually wear gloves and have never ruined a piece of hardware.


Thanks guys really. I think im confident now i can do it. :)  i watch a video a little bit ago from newegg and they explained everything pretty well. Now ive added a couple things to the list tell me what you guys think please! Thanks!
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/crazykilla075/saved

Also i saw that pcpart picker gave me a compatability noteASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the Rosewill Blackbone ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports.
should i get a case with 3.0?
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April 12, 2013 11:13:50 AM

crazykilla075 said:
edogawa said:
Just touch the PC case occasionally, don't stand on a carpet, and don't get water near parts and you will be fine. Once you get motherboard and processor in the rest is a piece of cake. I don't usually wear gloves and have never ruined a piece of hardware.


Thanks guys really. I think im confident now i can do it. :)  i watch a video a little bit ago from newegg and they explained everything pretty well. Now ive added a couple things to the list tell me what you guys think please! Thanks!
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/crazykilla075/saved

Also i saw that pcpart picker gave me a compatability noteASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard has an onboard USB 3.0 header, but the Rosewill Blackbone ATX Mid Tower Case does not have front panel USB 3.0 ports.
should i get a case with 3.0?


If you're definitely going to be using 3.0 (I know I won't) then yeah get a 3.0 case but if you're not going to use it yet but might in the future then you can just play a adapter or something similar further down the line.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 12, 2013 3:23:02 PM

Conventional monitors run at 60 HZ . This means the image refreshes 60 times a second

Thats the same as 60 fps

anytime your graphics card sends more than 60 fps the monitor has to interpret that back to 60 fps


still think its a great idea to run at 100fps?
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