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$500 Budget (low end) Gaming PC Build help

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April 11, 2013 6:25:33 AM

Why am I upgrading.
My current PC :
6 yrs old low end gaming pc , For last few months Its been giving a lot of BSOD's ( bad pool caller/header, irql not less or equal to) .
The lg hnn5 dvdrw stopped working 3 years ago. I been using usb drive ever since.
my best & cheap gpu nvidia gt8600 is somehow still working great but everytime i play big games like splinter cell it gives me nv4disp.dll error.
Changed 2 power supplies in those 6 years because I'm an excessive pc user. Sometimes my pc is on for 15-20 days. Sometimes I play mmorpg.
Also my AMD athlon 64 x2 4400+ processor is running pretty good so I'm going for AMD processor & nvidia gpu in new pc !

NEW PC !
My Current idea for a build:
DDR3 8GB RAM (plus I got 4gb from a friend)
AMD FX6100 processor or AMD motherboard with built-in gpu
i5 (never played a game on intel processor )
AMD 760g motherboard or Asus M5A78L-M-USB3 or any cheap and durable motherboard
GPU!! : nvidia gt630/640/440 or Raedon HD6450 or anything that fits in my budget
Hard disk : 1TB (I mostly delete/throw away games/movies after im done playing/watching them, the only thing i collect is music , half my HD is filled with it)
dvd burner : sony (its really cheap and durable)
power supply 550W
Intex or Zebronics cabinet with 6 fans)
Monitor 18inch (not sure about brand)
Speakers: 3/4 w
OS : win 7 home or any cheap version or win 7 or win 8 (I have win xp and it does not support most 2012 games)
Thats about it.





Approximate Purchase Date: This week or next week (but no later than that , i'm really tired of bsod)

Budget Range: $500 or INR 26k (INR - Indian rupees)

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Heavy gaming, surfing the internet, watching movies, using photoshop cs4 extended, illustrator & movie making apps)

Are you buying a monitor: Yes

Parts to Upgrade: everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes (the cheapest one that can support 2012 and later games)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I dunno its my first time.

Location: City, State/Region, Country - Mumbai , India.

Parts Preferences: amd processor, nvidia gpu or raedon.

Overclocking: Dunno, never done

SLI or Crossfire: Dunno what this is.

Your Monitor Resolution: Above 1024x768


April 11, 2013 7:44:00 AM

If you want to play 2012 games it depends on the quality of the resolution and the type of games you're trying to play. Got an idea on a few games you are interested in?
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April 11, 2013 9:01:04 AM

u need to invest more on the graphic card if u want to play games at acceptable frame rate
and fx 6100 is not a good cpu go for i5-3330 if u can or i3-3220
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April 11, 2013 9:18:09 AM

For your budget including a monitor and OS will cripple your performance as you wont have enough money for other stuff.
anyways here the build i suggest
Intel Pentium G630/645/2020-4k
Any cheap H61 motherboard-3k
Amd radeon 7750-6.5k
seagate 1Tb hdd-3k
corsair cx430v2-2.5k
Lg 18 inch 1366*768 monitor -4.5k
Windows 7 64bit premium edition -4k
total-27k
there you go its the best you can do in your budget
am not including ram as you already have 4gb ram your friend gave you.


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April 11, 2013 9:29:35 AM

Right you don't want to bottleneck the GPU either so I better CPU would be wise. Umm you said $500 budget the i5 3570K quad core is like $220 and the GTX 650 is like $125-$175 roughly on Amazon, prime eligible! If you didn't mind a pinch more than $500 for a better GPU then there's the GTX 660 for about $300 roughly that would put your CPU and GPU upgrade to roughly $520 if no deal going over then the GTX 650 should still play most everything at decent frame rates for the price :) 
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April 11, 2013 9:31:09 AM

Wait I put my post late yea I would go with what mohit9206 assuming you need to get everything from scratch sorry about that!
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April 11, 2013 9:32:48 AM

Yea like he said $500 is not much to play with. :(  sorry!
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April 11, 2013 11:15:26 AM

I decided that I will be buying PC only for $500 or 26k INR. I'll be using my current monitor, speakers, keyboard, mouse. So its just the hardware and os.

I play games like assassins creed, hitman, splinter cell, nfs, gta, street fighter, batman, far cry, brothers in arms.
Im really thinking of 6 core than quad core or dual core , also ram I got 4gb right now in this old pc , I need atleast 8 in the new pc.

But then again I'm kind of a rough user, I dont wanna buy a good pc and then screw it up.
A pc that runs for 2-3 years would be great for me.
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April 11, 2013 11:36:01 AM

well then I stand by the i5 3570K and the GTX 660 Far Cry, Hitman and Batman can be demanding games and that's not to mention whether you may consider jumping into Crysis which is one of the most graphically demanding games out right now. But just those two parts will run you roughly $520 I guess you could push for the GTX 650 and save a bit more as well but I am not 100% on the difference in performance for the 650 to the 660. Might not be that big. A dual core CPU may bottleneck a higher end GPU like the 660 so perhaps the 650 might be a better choice but right now the best CPU for the money for quad cores is between the i7 3770 and the i5 3570 I recommend the i5 it will do just fine. and I personally recommend at least the GTX 660 for a GPU but that's up to you dude. Your OS alone is like $100 so you really don't get much choice or any significant performance increase with a budget like $500 but I guess if this is a real issue try maybe the GTX 640 (which is pushing it but should still perform like medium settings for some of the those games) the 640 w/ 2GB VRAM is like $100 then your OS may be another $100 that laves a good $300 toward a decent CPU you can't afford a hex core with a budget like $500 your average hex core runs from like 500-1000 unless you go with AMD Processor they got an 8 core for like $175 on Amazon one issue AMD cpu perform better for programs than gaming so i don't recommend that route for a pc gamer it may not perform how you would like it to. I really hope this helps. I guess windows 7 basic but the 64-bit and the i5 3570 with a GTX 640 should remain within budget just fine and your future GPU should still be ok with that i5.
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April 11, 2013 11:36:53 AM

unless your going to be using programs like photoshop 4GB RAM is enough for gaming
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April 12, 2013 12:26:37 AM

I'm a weekend artist so I use photoshop cs4 extended along with illustrator , coreldraw x6, and autodesk maya. So I'm going for the 8gb ram and 4gb my friend gave me
this 4gb ram that my friend gave me is from an american company called Patriot , is it any good?
Also the 8gb RAM should I go for transcend or corsair (although transcend is slightly expensive than corsair)



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April 12, 2013 6:32:20 AM

I just calculated everything and i5 3570/3470/2500k is way! expensive.
New Build:
Sticking with amd,amd FX 6100 (6500) or since most games are build to use 2-3 cores , I found good review of amd phenom ii x4 975 (about the same price range) Also considering FX4300 (same price) & AMD phenom ii x4 965 even cheaper at 5500 bucks , lastly the phenom ii x4 980 is only 4000 bucks.
motherboard msi 760gm-p21 (3500)
ram 4gb corsair (1500) (+ i got 4gb patriot)
seagate baracuda 1Tb storage (4000)
win 7 home premium 64bit (5000)
Cheap case (500 bucks)
PSU logisys 550w (1200) - Maybe 550w too much? I'm not sure
Sony DVDRW (1200)
cheap network adapter (500)
around 24-25k!!
That leaves the GPU.
The cheapest gaming performance cards I could find was nvidia gts 450 or GT 640 both are worth around 5000 bucks or Raedon 5750 which is only 4000 bucks. But raedon and 450 gts benchmark scores were best on this website.
http://www.videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_list.php
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April 15, 2013 4:18:29 AM

The issue with running programs like photoshop and such is they will demand more from your CPU and GPU not just your RAM increasing you RAM will do nothing if you CPU and GPU can't keep up. I hate to say it but this pc will be slow for things like photoshop so I hope you don't mind slow cliks here and there while you wait for things to take their time loading. As an artist for you I would recommend and even more expensive rig just to handle your actual skills on screen but hey you can game with that I just wouldn't recommend any major programs is all. FYI don't play your games on 1920x1080 cause that pc won't handle any high res its more of a medium settings pc and it may be pretty weak so don't tackle big time games like BF3 or the upcoming BF4 cause you're frame rates may not be so good plus Crysis is way out of the question with this rig just trying to give you freindly advice before you do put forth the cash and find yourself disappointed. For a gaming pc less than $650 personally I would just buy a console cause that rig wouldn't even handle mods if it did it wouldn't be very many before CTD. I would know cause I have a build better than this and it still CTD's cause it can't handle games I want to play for very long so I am upgradin and putting much more detication to my rig because I want a change from console gaming. If you're on a budget and want to play games why not just buy a console like PS3 or or Xbox 360 or even cheaper a Wii? I mean unless you put roughly $650 into pc gaming doesn't really turn out to be worth it slow or laggy gameplay and poor resolutions is usually the result with these builds. I am not trying to be rude or turn you off your desired gaming pc but with a little bit of extra just holding off a little longer and you would be much more satisfied you did! Just trying to look out for ya! ;) 
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April 16, 2013 3:20:06 AM

no lol, I'm not interested in consoles.
Honestly I havent played any games lately. The last game I played was assassins creed revelation in 2011. I'm not a hardcore user of maya and photoshop. I use them once a week for around an hour or two. I use photoshop to edit images and make sigs. I can harldy use maya. My sis gave me that app.
Besides photoshop/other apps do you think this build will work?

Final Build:
Processor options:
AMD FX4300
AMD Phenom ii x4 975
AMD Phenom ii x4 965
AMD Phenom ii x4 905e
AMD Phenom ii x4 980

Motherboard:
Whichever is compatible

GPU options:
Radeon HD 4870
Radeon HD 5750
GeForce GTS 450
GeForce GT 640

PSU options:
450W
500W

DVDR
Sony

OS:
Win 7 home prem 64 bit

Storage:
seagate 1tb baracuda

RAM:
Corsair 4gb +4gb
(I checked out My ram and its only 1333mhz, I need 1600mhz or higher. Different freq. of ram's not safe)

If I've not mentioned any part then its the same as my previous post.

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April 21, 2013 5:58:13 AM

Finally got my pc.
the computer dudes at the hardware shop gave me some great advice, changed my whole idea.

got 4300 black edition instead of fx6100
got asus m5a78l-m usb3 motherboard EPU (with inbuild HD7000 series graphic card)
I used my own 4gb patriot ram ddr3
samsung dvd writer
1tb seagate baracuda
Circle heavy duty 500w psu Black edition
cooler master cabinet with 4 fans +1 120mm fan , and 2 stock fans. (more fans for overclocking)
18.5" LED monitor Acer
original windows 8 professional .
All for 30k

I was wondering if I could use my current GPU GDDR3 GT 8600 in this mobo. Coz I wont be using that old pc any more.

Thanks
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April 21, 2013 7:01:49 AM

Dude in India, just get windows for 100 rupees
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May 2, 2013 1:10:32 AM

ballerslife said:
Dude in India, just get windows for 100 rupees


I got it free. But win 8 I couldnt handle. And it was boring.
So I got windows 7, 64bit .

So this my final pc built. I wanted to spent about $500 but I ended up spending around $700
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/UshO

Edit: The following parts / items were not in the partpicker list. So I chose the one which I found close enough to the price and description.

The video card is sapphire raedon hd6670 1gb ddr5
monitor is 18.5 inch LED acer monitor
psu is Circle 500w heavy duty black edition
cpu is FX 4130 black edition


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June 18, 2013 7:43:33 AM

Sounds good I figured you would go over your budget but to be honest you'll be much happier with it. Besides a couple hundred extra for your happiness is worth it is it not?! :) 
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October 1, 2013 3:20:37 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-4130 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($93.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Product Series:7K1000<br/>Product Line:Travelstar 1TB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($95.38 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-Plorer2 Black/Red ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
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October 2, 2013 5:55:59 AM

Gon Ponieman said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-4130 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($93.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($44.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: A-Data Gaming Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($34.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Hitachi Product Series:7K1000<br/>Product Line:Travelstar 1TB 2.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($87.98 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus Radeon HD 7770 GHz Edition 1GB Video Card ($95.38 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-Plorer2 Black/Red ATX Mid Tower Case ($48.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Antec Basiq 500W ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $478.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)


He's not US my friend. I am pretty sure you're too late he's already gotten his PC built. He's got it at his home and functional already.
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