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donald freeman

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Long story short my 3 year old dumped a cup of soda on my 9 year old computer and fried the whole thing. So, my wife is cool with a $1,500/$2,000 build as long as she picked the case thermaltake level 10 snow edition and it sticks to a blue/purple and white theme. I went to pcpartpicker.com and this is what i came up with so far

pcpartpicker.com/p/Q363

That's as far as i got whatever i left blank i haven't figured out what to get. I'm also stuck between liquid and air cooling which i want the best bang for buck. Also looking to get the best performing case/cpu fans for either liquid/air cooling and one graphics card is enough i only have 1 screen aoc envision l19w861 i'm not running multiple monitors. But if i can run dual cards with better performance for around the same price then i'm all for it.

PLEASE chew up my build i have a lot to learn haven't put 1 together since 1998 lol
 
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edogawa

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Are you doing a gaming build right?

Read below if so:

A 7970ghz will handle any game at 1080p well on a single monitor.
If you want to do more monitors, 3 at 1080p on high settings with AA, then you will want crossfire(2 cards).

You only really need to do a mild overclock with a 3570k, so a hyper 212 evo will be a good choice.

If you don't watch movies via DVD or Bluray then you don't need a drive, you can create a Windows USB installer drive which is better than having the disk in my opinion.

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msus/en_US/help/ThemeID.29553000

A SSD will make your system more responsive and load everything quicker. The mechanical hard drive is for storing data, and games. Put frequently played games on SSD.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($65.79 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Corsair Force Series GS 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($217.28 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition ATX Full Tower Case ($227.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($93.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1533.95
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-11 20:01 EDT-0400)

Edit: This for Windows 8 too: http://www.stardock.com/products/start8/

Fans:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181022

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835553012


Okay, this should be great for playing almost all games on high settings.
 
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yasserBasha

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($104.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance LP 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($107.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($138.95 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($389.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition ATX Full Tower Case ($227.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ Amazon)
Total: $1389.80
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-11 19:55 EDT-0400)

How about this ?
 
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edogawa

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That's true, 40 more dollars for the i7 isn't a bad deal though I have to say. Microcenter deals are good.

edit: it's only in-store pickup for micrcenter for the 3770k it appears.
 
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lunyone

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Wow >$240 just for a case? That is just too much for a case, IMHO. Your $ would be better spent on other parts than on that case.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i7-3770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($32.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($159.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($71.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($382.38 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($77.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($75.98 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG WH14NS40 Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($91.40 @ Amazon)
Total: $1557.67
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-11 20:38 EDT-0400)

* CPU one of the best for the $. (i5 3570k is better for the $, but the i7 has just a bit more options)
* Mobo is all that you should need and isn't too costly.
* RAM has LOW PROFILE heat spreaders, so it won't get in the way of the aftermarket CPU HSF.
* CPU HSF offers good cooling for little $.
* Case is one of the better ones for the $.
* PSU is one of the best with 80 Plus Bronze Certifications.
* GPU is a good performer for the $.
* Included a BluRay burner, so your covered for any 1080p movies (assuming you need a BluRay player).
 
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I'm definitely not doing anything along the lines of encoding/editing just gaming(guild wars 2) and minecraft for my kids until i do budget builds for them. Well, after finding out my brother in law just did a level 10 gt build i spent a few hours browsing different builds and settled on doing a custom desk build similar to this 1: http://www.l3p.nl/l3p-d3sk/

The desk/liquid cooling isn't included in the price so i'm just going to focus on the core components with a budget of $2,500 and let my fish tanks take a backseat for a few months. Space is definitely not a concern anymore for components so i'm looking for the best combination on motherboard, cpu, graphics card, storage and psu. the i5 3750k i feel is more than enough for want i want to use it for unless the i7 is worth the extra cash for the next 3-5 years. Since i want to water cool both cpu/gpu would it be better to stick with 1 card or 2 sapphire vapor-x hd7970 ghz edition 3gb
 
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Same performance saved you $150
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V LK ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($114.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($53.98 @ Outlet PC)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($217.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($389.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair Builder 600W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1211.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
 
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That's a GREAT invisible optical drive .. oh wait..! there isn't any

I would like to remind you also that when you make a build w/i5-k you should put dual kit of RAM NOT single channel (Do i really need to tell u that ? )
 
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Ok let me explain a couple of things... an optical drive is $15 sorry It's still $135 cheaper than yours but still better, with that out of the way.

No you do not need dual channel... it is the only LP RAM yours would not even fit under the cooler, so yeah nice job choosing incompatible RAM, as well as the fact that dual channel literally has 0 performance difference from single right now. You are looking at a difference of 3% tops. Did I really need to tell you that? Work on your English it is HORRENDOUS.

I apologize for actually trying to save people money and get the same performance... I know it's a sin and all to help people. So sit down and calm yourself there is no reason to be mad... you may get the hang of builds one day.
 
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I don't have time to teach some student about computers so i'll make this simple (though it's not really complicated) :

Dual-channel works twice as fast as single-channel because it divides read/write operations evenly between the two memory sticks, so the so-called 3% increase is a total nonsense .

As for the incompatibility : LOW-PROFILE RAM will always fit under the CPU cooler, HIGH-PROFILE ones won't.

As for the optical drive : you still don't have one :D

If you try to save money for people that's good, But don't expect to list incomplete builds and get a round of applause.

I'm not mad, you are the one who has a problem with opposite opinions.
So you calm yourself, don't be mad
 
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Again you fool yourself... look at some benchmarks browse the web, I saved this guy $135... which is a heck of a lot more than you did. Don't expect expensive builds to get you a round of applause... you selected HP ram aka high profile. Come back to me later when you get a compatible build. Again sadly you do not quiet understand how to build a computer. Now you can sit down and listen to the veteran or you can continue a pointless argument, your choice. I saved the OP $135 with the same performance as yours get over it, even if DC RAM is what you say it is its maybe $10 more... AKA. I still saved the OP $125 which again is A TON better than you can say. Now stop your arguing it gets you nowhere, It sucks to not understand some times I get it but seriously you should be choosing on my ethos over his rage pathos.
 
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http://www.outletpc.com/re1169-cml16gx3m2a1600c10b-corsair-vengeance-lp.html?utm_source=re1169-cml16gx3m2a1600c10b-corsair-vengeance-lp&utm_medium=shopping%2Bengine&utm_campaign=pcpartpicker&utm_content=@@BRAND@@%2-%2@@CATEGORY@@

no other words ... veteran
 
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donald freeman

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I chose not to get a case because i'm going to try to do a custom desk similar to this one http://www.l3p.nl/l3p-d3sk/

I totally forgot about an optical drive i was more concerned about the graphics card, cpu, motherboard and memory. i gonna stick to a vapor-x ghz edition card i'm gonna do light overclocking nothing too crazy lol.
 
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Good luck building that custom case/table. You will spend LOTS of $ and LOTS of time doing something like that.
 
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