Prebuilt Machine and then add on?

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I've been wanting to build my own computer for a while now, and the computer I was planning on building was around 1200$, I was looking on Newegg.com and I found a computer with an HD 7770, an i5, 8gb of RAM, and a 500 gb harddrive.

Now, this is a 630$ computer, and it's a lot cheaper. I would like it and then change the gpu to a 7970, and the hard drive to a 2tb one.

This way, I can have a relatively good computer for gaming, sort of, and be able to use it while trying to add on. I was planning on buying the parts piece by piece until I had all of the parts, but I wouldn't be able to use it until I had them all. With buying a prebuilt one, I can add on and it would be slightly cheaper and not have to wait a few months while I get them.

Would it be a good idea to get the prebuilt one (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883227472) or should I go with waiting, and then building it?

 
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The power supply isn't a problem, and the case isn't either, the only reason I am leaning towards buying the pre-built one is so I have a better computer than this sh*tty laptop right now. Even if the price goes over what it would be to buy the parts individually, it wouldn't be as much time.
 
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The psu will not have enough current to run the 7970. The psu in the HP would be a 300 watt at best a 400 and not the best quality. The 7970 needs at least a quality 400 to 500 watt psu. Most OEM cases have a 80 to 120mm exhaust fan in the back only. Not enough air flow to cool a 7970. As Darksable stated the rest of the parts in OEM computers are not high quality.
 
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I was planning on changing the PSU ( 800 watt , happen to have one for whatever reason ) and changing the case, and the gpu. I was planning on getting an i5 and Windows 7, and the same amount of RAM. I'd rather choose buying this, so I can actually use it from the start, and not having to wait 3 or 4 months and try to figure out how to build the thing. I'm tired of playing games on minimum. I have a 250$ laptop, which actually isn't as bad as I thought, but it has intel HD graphics. This would be the best decision for me, in my opinion. But, if in the long run, it's going to come back and bite me in the ass, then I won't do it. But, if the only thing it's going to do is cost me a little bit of more money, I don't see why not.
 
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I do not like the idea of having to later dump parts to upgrade.
You are looking at changing out a 7770 for a 7970.
A 400w psu for a 600w unit.
A 3570 has a locked multiplier, 5% more buys you a 3570K and 25% more capability.
1333 ram is usually fine, but 1600 ram is no more expensive.
What is wrong with a 500gb hard drive? Note it is a sata II, not sata III drive.
Me, I would want to build with a 120gb ssd and plan on adding a hard drive later.
But the supplied H61 motherboard does not support 6gb sata.

Shop for the parts individually, and see how much you will save.

Or... look at Tom's $600 Q1 2013 gaming build.
It will outperform your build at about the same price.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pc-gaming-overclock-build-a-pc,3443.html
 
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My original build:
7970 GHz edition 3gb
2tb harddrive
109$ case
800watt power supply
i5
8gb memory

Those are the basic things
If I was going to buy the parts individually, I would just go with those. The reason I wanted to buy a pre-built machine was so I could use it and upgrade as I please. I am currently using a 250$ laptop, and it's getting annoying. I've had this computer for a year or so now, and it has done me proud, but it's just not enough. Upgrading wouldn't be a major problem at all, but if I were to buy all of the parts, it would take time and I wouldn't be able to use them until I had everything. There's nothing wrong with a 500gb harddrive, I'd just feel better with a 2tb one.
 
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If you order all the parts from newegg, they will arrive in about the same time as the prebuilt.

It will take you a couple of hours to assemble the parts.
Installing the os will take you about an hour. 10 minutes if you put it on a ssd.

I venture to say that it will take you the same hour to find and remove all the bloatware that comes with a prebuilt.
 
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This.

(Also, why does your sig have a link in it that directs to a blank page? :p)

 
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I don't have the money for 1200$ all at once, I would have to pick things out every month, when I get paid. I can come up with 630$ however.
 
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Well, now that I think about it, this would be better. I'll check the items out on newegg, and see the final price.
 
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How is it better to buy a cheap prebuilt and upgrade it with bad parts still in there than it is to buy good quality parts and possibly upgrade them when you have the money?

 
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The price is around 623$, which I guess is cheaper, it just doesn't come with an OS..... Which would put me at 723$
 
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A 7970 HD Ghz edition 3gb, 800 watt power supply, new case, and a 2tb harddrive is bad? Well shit man, guess I should quit!
And I didn't mean I would put them in there when I got them, I would add more RAM, and a better harddrive, but I wouldn't put a 7970 in it without everything else.
 
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Okay, look, I'd rather buy the pre-built, because for one, it is cheaper, if you can build me a better one for around the same price, OS included, and a 7850, then I would be happy! ( And without a psu )
 
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No, I was saying that the motherboard, CPU, ram, ect... are going to be bad quality in a prebuilt.

 
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Ah, well I managed to come up with this. 632$ OS included, but with an i3, is a Cooler needed? One ( Fan and heatsinc ) is included but I'm not sure if I need a better one.

Optical- ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
VGA- GIGABYTE GV-R785OC-2GD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
CPU-Intel Core i3-2130 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32130
Case-LOGISYS Computer CS368RB Red & Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 480W Power Supply
OS-Windows 7 64-bit
RAM-Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model BLS4G3D1339DS1S00
Harddrive-(Refurbished) Seagate Pipeline HD ST3500312CS 500GB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
 
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Well, after a while of searching on the internet, I think I have come to a decision, I will go with buying individual parts, and upgrading as I please.

Optical- ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
VGA- GIGABYTE GV-R785OC-2GD Radeon HD 7850 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready CrossFireX Support Video Card
CPU-Intel Core i3-2130 Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz LGA 1155 65W Dual-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 2000 BX80623I32130
Case-LOGISYS Computer CS368RB Red & Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 480W Power Supply
OS-Windows 7 64-bit
RAM-Crucial Ballistix Sport 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model BLS4G3D1339DS1S00
Harddrive-(Refurbished) Seagate Pipeline HD ST3500312CS 500GB SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive


Do I need that cooler for the CPU? Or is the stock one going to do it?
 
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I have no clue why my sig shows as a link. I checked and there is nothing special about the text.
 
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