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Vicpdx17

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Hi,
I am looking down the road at a new computer as my current one has limited cooling due to the case having only one vent in the front and back and so I wanted to know what should I get? here is my current thoughts on a build:

Case:Cooler master CM storm stryker-http://amzn.com/B00BCXF6JE
CPU: Intel core i5 3570K-http://amzn.com/B007SZ0E1K
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master V8-http://amzn.com/B001KUV2KQ
Motherboard: ASUS sabertooth z77 LGA 1155-http://amzn.com/B007RIFKUS
Ram: Corsair vengeance LP 16gb-http://amzn.com/B007TG8QRW
HDD: Western Digital Black 500gb-http://amzn.com/B008968L6M
SSD: Samsung 840 PRO SSD 256GB-http://amzn.com/B009NB8WRU
Blu-ray drive: LG-http://amzn.com/B008G9V60K
Video Card: EVGA GTX670 FTW(For the win)-http://amzn.com/B0083Y6MV6
Sound Card: Asus Xonar D1-http://amzn.com/B001EZQ8YC
Power Supply: Seasonic 850w-http://amzn.com/B004ETEFTK

Extras: Artic Silver 5 themal paste, Tripp lite surge protector.

New items I already own: 27" Samsung T27B350 monitor, Linksys AE3000 wifi adapter, Western Digital 500gb elements external drive, Tp-Link Wdr-3600 V1 Router.

Games either going to play or playing now: Fallout: New vegas, Flight Simulator X with PMDG 737NGX aircraft add-on, Battlefield 3 premium, Need for speed most wanted, COD: Black ops 2, Amnesia: the dark decent, Bus & cable car simulator, NBA 2k13, and Skyrim with DLC's.

All parts are prime eligible on amazon so free shipping(yay!). So what do you think? What parts do I need to change or what parts don't I need? I want this computer to run awesomely with lots of power but be pretty future proof.
 
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Looks pretty good. Some comments:
-You could do with a smaller power supply. Your system won't peak at more than 400W, even OCed. Something around the 600W mark would make more sense.
-the motherboard is also overkill. I don't really like that board as it costs a fortune and only has 2 PCIe slots.
-There are better cpu coolers for cheaper. If you like the look of that one, though, it should be fine.
-Sound cards are only for audiophiles, are you one? Otherwise the onboard sound on any modern motherboard is more than sufficient.
-You could also drop to 8GB of ram with no performance drop but ram is cheap so wtvr.

Basically, you could drop some of the overkill components to either save money or reallocate money. For instance with a cheaper mobo and PSU you could probably go SLI 670s.

Edit: But if aesthetics are important to you, your current build is fine. My comments are mostly addressing cost/performance. For the right person, building a nice looking rig can easily be worth spending extra on some premium parts.

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Okay, I'd suggest the following specifically:
ASRock z77 Extreme4 - $135 Exellent OCing mobo at a good price. Still has 2 pcie slots and supports two cards in sli.
8GB corsair vengence - $64 16GB just isn't useful at this point.
Corsair tx750m - $125 - This will more than do the job. However the one you selected is fine and more efficient (might save a few dollars of electricity over the next few years), so go with whichever.
 
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needs complete changing. comonents are either a waste of time, overpriced, or could be better
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QbpJ

-way better CPU cooler
-silver 5 is pretty obsolete and the included stuff is good already
-you dont need that much ram
-sabertooth boards are a scam
-the m5s is 60 bucks cheaper while performing close enough you can never notice
no reason to get a small black series drive when you can get double that capacity for the same price
-way better gtx 670
-you dont need that much wattage
-sound card is unnecessary
-case is unnecessarily big and overpriced
 
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So I took what Sliced toad said and changed it to this:

The mother board is now a as-rock extreme 4

The Ram is now 8GB corsair vengeance.

The PSU is now a sea sonic 750W.

The Sound card was taken off.

Next: what cpu cooler would you recommend?
 
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when I look at the asus m5 it seems to be only for amd but im creating an intel computer, I do agree that the xfx 750w psu is cheaper so I changed that, the ram though might just keep that and the hyper 212 was actually one I was looking at but did not know if it was cool enough to overclock but do you think it is?

Right now my build is around $1,600 with changes and I do have a budget up to $2,000 though I dont know if I want to spend a whole $2,000 so the more savings the better but the more power the better also.
 
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the 620 doesnt have enough plugs. not to mention 750w will allow for some buffer room with overclocking. even if the 670s dont draw that much power, you end up with a full load approaching 100% of the units capacity

also, the xfx 750w is equivalent to a seasonic x760w
 
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Ok So I did change the motherboard to the v lk which i do Prefer asus alot. but i may not sli at the current time and will probably add it later down the road. but yea I do have the 750w xfx now and the asus board in the quote. But my question again is will the evo be enough cooling for the i5 3570k to overclock to like 4.2-4.5ghz?
 
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The evo is about the best cooler per dollar. Will it get you to 4.5GHz? Who knows, it depends on your chip.

Since you have budget room, get the phantek cooler TheBigTroll recommended. It's quite a nice cooler.

Also about ASRock, they used to be part of Asus but eventually broke off into their own company (they are no longer sister companies either, they've been aggressively distancing each other for a bit now). The quality difference is nil. What is different is what features you get at what price range and who the boards are targeted at. ASRock usually has less features (usb ports, etc) but better ocing and nicer looking boards per dollar. That's a huge over-generalization but meh.
Anyway, if you prefer Asus, that's fine. Personally, I only buy EVGA mobos now. I've RMAed MSI, Asus, Gigabyte and EVGA boards and the only company with support worth sh*t is EVGA. That said, they're too expensive for a single gpu, non-water cooled pc so the Asus one is fine and will work perfectly.

If you want to spend the rest of your budget, buy some nice peripherals. A nice mouse and mechanical keyboard can make a huge difference.
 
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oh ok I am currently looking to add a phanteks fan onto my build! also a question: Would a GTX 660 ti work okay or is the 670 better to go with? Cause on Amazon the 660 Ti is $294-$301 while the 670 FTW is $399-$407.
 
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yeah, I have a MSI 670 PE and I can second the recommendation. It runs cool and quiet and looks quite nice. The only complaint I have is that is spins the fans up really high at start up to clean the dust out or something. Not really an issue though since you only hear it for a few seconds after turning the computer on.
 
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Are you looking at this PNY card? The advantage to that one is the price. But it's a reference style 670 with one fan that blows air from the far end of the card to outside the case. These types of coolers are good for small, poorly ventilated cases since they don't heat up the case much. With any decent case, though, this isn't necessary and just creates extra noise and a hotter gpu.

Basically, the MSI one will be cooler and quieter. If you needed to save a few bucks, then it would be a good choice but I wouldn't recommend it for you build. Also, the MSI one is clocked about 100mhz faster (about 10%).
 
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oh ok then I will change that right away.

Here is the updated build:
Case: Cooler Master CM Storm stryker-$159.99
CPU: Intel core I5 3570K-$209.99
CPU cooler: Phantecks PH-TC14-$96.99
Motherboard: Asus P8z77-V LK- $134.99
Ram: Corsair Vengance 8gb- $64.99
HDD: Western digital black 500gb- $78.75
SSD: Samsung 840 PRO SSD 256GB- $219.99
Blu-ray drive: LG- $53.99
Video Card: MSI GTX 670-http://www.amazon.com/MSI-DisplayPort-PCI-Express-N670-2GD5/dp/B008BGXYAS/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1365921574&sr=8-6&keywords=gtx+670- $389.99
Power Supply: XFX PRO750W Core edition 80+ bronze- $109.99

Extras: Brand new Tripp lite surge protector- $33.25, Jurassic park trilogy blu-ray- $39.96, Media Bridge coax cable(For cable modem)- $6.99.

Total: 1,612.95 w/Prime shipping.
 
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About the surge protector, your psu has one built in. A separate one will of course offer more protection and, if you're paranoid, go for it but it's unlikely to make a difference.

Other than that, I like your build. The suggestions TheBigTroll made are quite valid but spending a bit more for some equally performing but higher quality or nicer looking parts is down to preference

I like caviar black drives myself since I can't stand keeping constant backups but I hate loosing data—so I compromise with a higher quality drive than necessary. To me 500GB looks a bit small though. I'd prefer this 1TB one. But obviously it's up to your size needs. And that 500GB one is slightly more reliable since it's a single platter drive. However, if you're getting a black drive for performance... it isn't worth it and you should stick with blue (which are still quite reliable).

For the ram, Corsair is purely for the aesthetics. A patriot or GSkill set will perform just as well and be just as reliable. But the ones TheBigTroll linked are back ordered and Amazon doesn't have anything too much cheaper than that corsair set, so whatever.

Cases are always subjective. Especially when you budget isn't super tight. I'm assuming that you've taken a good look at the variety of cases out there and looked at some professional reviews for the ones that looked good. If you haven't, do so. Newegg offers about the best way to browse cases (select a price range and sort by rating) and then you can purchase wherever you want. If you've done something like that already, then I completely approve of the stryker. Tom Logan from OC3D just finished a massive YouTube modding project with it.
 
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Well I might switch to the blue because all I would be doing is putting media on the HDD.

Question about my SSD: Should I go to a full 512GB or stay with the 256GB? and also other then Samsung what would be a great SSD without a sandforce controller?
 
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Yeah, a black drive won't make a difference for media.

As to 256 vs 512, it depends on what you do and how many games you install. It's not hard to stay under 256GB as long as you store media on another drive. But if you like to have 10+ games installed, 512 gives you basically unlimited headroom. Check your current computer's program files to give yourself an idea. 512GB drives are also faster but this isn't noticeable outside of benches.

For non-sanforce SSDs I prefer Samsung currently.
 
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-why spend so much on a case when you barely take up half that space
-cooler is cheaper elsewhere
-ram is cheaper elsewhere. why over pay?
-board is cheaper elsewhere
-the m5s is just as good for 159.99
-GPU is 20 bucks cheaper elsewhere
-i can get a gold edition for that price
 
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