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Here is the PC I'm building. It's being built for high FPS PC gaming.

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Qi7n

I want to know if I should change anything.

Will the cpu cooler fit on that case?

I plan on eventually OC'ing my processor to ~ 4.8, and want to know if I picked the appropriate motherboard.

Also, is that motherboard good/big enough for everything I'm getting?

That RAM I know nothing about and have no idea if it'll be good.

A far as the video cards, I wasn't sure what brand I should get.

Also the PSU I know nothing about.

Is the case big enough for everything?

Thanks in advance.


 
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I eventually plan on getting a high hz monitor and want to be able to do 100+ fps.

Is Win 7 better for gaming compared to Win 8?

I'm concerned that the H110 might not be compatible with my case, but I dont know.
 
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Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP

Budget Range: ~ $2500

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, gaming, gaming, gaming.

Are you buying a monitor: Yes, looking to get a high hz monitor, not included in $2500 budget.



Parts to Upgrade: Everything

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Doesn't matter

Location: City, State/Region, Country - Lexington, KY, USA

Parts Preferences: Intel/Nvidia

Overclocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Your Monitor Resolution: Going to upgrade to a high hz 1080p monitor.

Additional Comments: Wanting to play modern PC games at 100+ FPS to take advantage of a high Hz monitor.

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: The PC I have can barely run games on minimal settings.

 
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Thats all you need to spend for a high end gaming system, I would even say this is overkill as you can get decent enough performance to justify a 120hz monitor with a single card.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($189.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($81.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($124.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($63.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($137.87 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($379.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Switch 810 (Black) ATX Full Tower Case ($165.98 @ Outlet PC)
Power Supply: Silverstone Strider Plus 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($115.99 @ NCIX US)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 Full (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1810.74
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-13 04:43 EDT-0400)

If you really want to spend more, would do it on custom water-cooling, a better case or some awesome peripherals and sound setup.
 
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Manofchalk, is there no reason to get 16 GB of RAM?

Also, is 128 GB SSD enough? Aren't there some 256 that are almost the same price?

Why do you suggest Win 8? I thought Win 8 had some problems with certain games.

Edit: Will the Noctua be enough with the 3570k OC to max?


Edit #3: I'm going to try and order it all today.

Edit #4: Is 750 w going to be enough once I OC everything?

Edit #5: Is a full tower case necessary, or will a mid tower work, like the fractal design r4, or the corsair c70?
 
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heres what i would get
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QtH3

-cheaper CPU cooler that should do about the same as the noctua, probably runs a little hotter too but then its a lot cheaper
-id get the LE plus but then the d3h is fine
-cheaper ram
-samsung 830 is not going to be stocked anymore. pick up the plextor m5s instead
-doubt you can use 3tb but if you can, go ahead with it
-cheaper 670s
-case is suited better for your use. there is no reason to get such a large case if you arent going to fill up all the slots and if you are using a board that isnt full size atx
-cheaper and much better psu
-windows 7 is cheaper
 
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For a gaming rig no, but if you want it you might as well. Not like your hurting for cash at this point.
128GB is enough for Windows, most commenly used programs, a few games and about 20GB of breathing room. There are 256GB SSD's for about the same price, but they aren't as good as the 840 Pro. Also the 830 you have in your revised list is out of stock, far as I'm aware the 830's went out of production when the 840's released.
I have no doubt Win8 does have some problems with certain games, but that's going to happen with any new OS release. Drivers, updates and patches will fix everything in time.

Probably, I think with that much cooling you would be limited by voltage ceilings, your skill and the quality of the chip before temps are in issue. If you want more cooling, look into custom water.
750W will be more than enough.
A mid tower will work, but I chose the full tower because it gives you more options later on and will provide the space to let an SLI setup breathe.
 
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You won't experience micro-stuttering and you can overclock it to 1GHz with problems, especially if you buy a third part cooler. Here is a swedish review and you will be able to get to get result that are very close to GTX 690, Lets not forget that the drivers for Titan are new so you will get even better fps in the future. I can't say if the titan is tested with 5760x1080 resolution. You should also keep in mind that the ram from 670/680/690 will be a bottle because of

You can also wait for Titan LE, 2 496 CUDA-cores, 320-bits memorybuss and 6 GB GDDR5, which will costs around 700$ and it will come very soon.

If that's no alternative than I suggest Sapphire Vapor-X 6GB and here are some benchmark - to make it sure 570 is worth the performance is offers.

LGA2011 version, ASUS Rampage LGA2011
 
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I'm actually glad you mentioned that, Valentin.

My eyes are extremely sensitive, to the point of being a problem. All my life I've had very sensitive eyes/brain that notices way too much. I might be a little OCD as well.

Anyway, I hate stuttering, and even microstuttering that other people do not notice, I do.

The more I read about SLI and microstuttering, the less I'm wanting to go the SLI route. Despite the money I'm about to spend, I'm actually a pretty frugal person until my OCD kicks in, but I'm willing to shell out the cash to make my gameplay as smooth as possible. High FPS doesn't mean anything to me if there is still any type of stuttering going on.

manofchalk & TheBigTroll,

If I do decide to go the Titan route, is yalls setup compatible? Could I just take what you guys suggested and put a Titan in and be done with it, or would I have to change anything else?

And BTW, you guys are really helping me out a lot, making me feel more comfortable, and giving me peace of mind. I really appreciate it and thank you all.

Edit: I'm pretty much appalled at the frame time testing on SLI, especially on Crysis 3, Hitman: Absolution, and Dirt: Showdown. Fairly sure I'm going to get the Titan, just waiting for confirmation from you guys to give me the go ahead.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/60166-nvidia-gtx-titan-vs-sli-crossfire.html
 
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Both mine and Bigtrolls setups can handle a Titan just fine. Its a graphics card just like any other, doesn't require anything special to make it work.

What makes the Titan a beast is its GPU (which is effectively a cut down Tesla core), not its vast amount of VRAM. VRAM capacity has no impact to gaming performance until you run out of it, and at 1080p 2GB is more than enough unless you like modding Skyrim to an inch of its life. Even at 5760x1080p (three 1080p screens) 2GB of VRAM holds up well.

That sort of segues to another point, I think the performance of a Titan would be wasted on a 1080p screen, even a 120hz one. You should consider getting a 2560x1440 IPS panel or consider a 5760x1080 setup (which could be IPS as well come to think of it).

EDIT:
Frame times are pretty much a brand new concept in the world of benchmarking, it was only discovered recently so for now its fairly horrible as no one knew it was even a problem. Nvidia are actually much better than AMD in this aspect (due to them being fairly quiet about knowing it for a very long while), just look up frame time Crossfire results.
Multi-GPU setups in general perform far worse in regards to frame-times compared to single cards.

Its a very new and complex concept, with a lot of factors dictating its severity (some of them outside AMD/Nvidia's hands, such as Microsoft's DirectX software). Also very few people have the setups necessary to accurately bench frametime performance. Wouldnt jump to conclusions too quickly is what I'm saying.

For a good explanation of Frame times, I'l actually refer to a Linus Tech Tips livestream, where they brought the guy who discovered it onto the show. He explains it in more colloquial terms than the actual article and its easier to understand.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=noVu8BXkCsw
Skip to 29min for relevant bit.
 
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I forgot to post the link earlier, but this is what is selling me on the Titan:

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/60166-nvidia-gtx-titan-vs-sli-crossfire.html

Those time frame testing graphs are pretty gross with SLI, and just completely disgusting with Crossfire. The Titan just seems much more fluid and consistent.

Reason I was curious if yalls setup was compatible was because I wasn't sure if I needed any different type of cooling, or motherboard, or power supply, or case with the Titan. So yours and Trolls is completely compatible with the Titan, no issues like that?

Edit: Wow, that video is a real eye opener. Just goes to show you high FPS isn't everything. For the longest time I didn't know what frame-rating/ frame time testing was. I've always noticed this, I just never knew exactly what to call it. I notice this on single card rigs that stay at or above their refresh rate, so just think how bad I'll notice it on SLI.
 
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Nvidia has better rendering frame rate which is why I think Nvidia Titan is the best choice, if the budget can allow it, however the Sapphire shows good results for it's price and that's were AMD might be a better choice especially in GPGPU tasks.

AMD is saying that their software is not truly optimized for GCN-architecture
 
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Yeah, that video is a real eye opener. Makes me want the Titan even more.

You guys really have no idea how much you all have helped me. Thank you, manofchalk, and thank you everybody.

I'm about to finalize my list.
 
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