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Low FPS: Phenom II X4 965/GTX 660 HELP!

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April 13, 2013 12:21:46 AM

Hey guys,
This is my first time posting here because I am a little puzzled...I just did a few upgrades on my system for Battlefield 3, a GTX 660 and a new Phenom II X4 965 Black Edition. I got the card first and it was a huge boost, but my Athlon X2 4800+ was holding me back (20 FPS online w/ low settings!), so after realizing my mobo supported it, I got the Phenom.

Well, needless to say, it didn't do much. I still top out at around 30 FPS at lowest settings, even with the Phenom clocked up to 3.8ghz. With this setup I was expecting at least 40 at high settings. I put my question in the CPU section because I assume thats where my issue is...some of my hardware is a little dated, but I was really expecting more performance. So if anybody has a clue where the problem could be, or if you need more info, I'm grateful for feedback. Here's my full specs:

Asus M2N32-SLI Deluxe Motherboard
AMD Phenom II X4 965 BE
4GB Kingston DDR2-800
Seagate 500GB HDD
MSI GTX 660 Twin Frozr III
Thermaltake 430w PSU

Also, I realize I am more than slightly over wattage right now...that's my next upgrade :D  But maybe that could be the issue???
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April 13, 2013 12:30:18 AM

over wattage? you mean under powered?

you are indeed cpu bound. an i5 or i7 would have been the area to spend money. you have what you have, make the best of it.

lower some game settings to help alleviate any roughness and maybe lower your resolution a notch.
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April 13, 2013 12:40:18 AM

Online play on BF3 is very taxing on the CPU. But i think the bigger problem lies with your memory. Its only 4gb of DDR2, up it to 8gb of DDR3 and you will definitely see a huge improvement in BF3. This will require you to buy a new mobo, as yours does not support DDR3.
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April 13, 2013 9:58:39 AM

Thanks for the quick feedback.

swifty_morgan said:
over wattage? you mean under powered?

you are indeed cpu bound. an i5 or i7 would have been the area to spend money. you have what you have, make the best of it.

lower some game settings to help alleviate any roughness and maybe lower your resolution a notch.


I was afraid of that, but its really my mobo holding me back... Not a big deal though, the conversion to an Intel setup will just take some time. Its just strange that there was a very minimal change in performance with a CPU that has twice the speed and cores...

Dood15 said:
Online play on BF3 is very taxing on the CPU. But i think the bigger problem lies with your memory. Its only 4gb of DDR2, up it to 8gb of DDR3 and you will definitely see a huge improvement in BF3. This will require you to buy a new mobo, as yours does not support DDR3.


Yeah, that came up while I was troubleshooting. I could get 8gb of DDR2, but I'd rather not put any more cash into a system that I wont use. Most new mobo's support 16gb, would there be any point in maxing that out?
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April 13, 2013 11:02:27 AM

japansam23 said:

Yeah, that came up while I was troubleshooting. I could get 8gb of DDR2, but I'd rather not put any more cash into a system that I wont use. Most new mobo's support 16gb, would there be any point in maxing that out?


There isn't really any reason to get more than 8GB for gaming; DDR3 is definitely a good idea though.

On a side note, getting faster-clocked RAM isn't necessarily worth the money. From what I've seen, the performance difference between 1333MHz and 1600MHz DDR3 is only about 2%.
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April 13, 2013 11:37:29 AM

Your slower DDR2 is holding you back, as is the slower HT bus speed of the older 500 series Nvidia chipset. I believe the 590 only had a 1GZ HT speed.
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April 13, 2013 7:16:27 PM

japansam23 said:
Thanks for the quick feedback.

swifty_morgan said:
over wattage? you mean under powered?

you are indeed cpu bound. an i5 or i7 would have been the area to spend money. you have what you have, make the best of it.

lower some game settings to help alleviate any roughness and maybe lower your resolution a notch.


I was afraid of that, but its really my mobo holding me back... Not a big deal though, the conversion to an Intel setup will just take some time. Its just strange that there was a very minimal change in performance with a CPU that has twice the speed and cores...

Dood15 said:
Online play on BF3 is very taxing on the CPU. But i think the bigger problem lies with your memory. Its only 4gb of DDR2, up it to 8gb of DDR3 and you will definitely see a huge improvement in BF3. This will require you to buy a new mobo, as yours does not support DDR3.


Yeah, that came up while I was troubleshooting. I could get 8gb of DDR2, but I'd rather not put any more cash into a system that I wont use. Most new mobo's support 16gb, would there be any point in maxing that out?


I agree with Andreas, no point in getting 16gb of RAM if your primary focus is gaming. You're right, no point in spending money on DDR2 memory either. Here is an example of a great mobo and memory combo you can upgrade to: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/pQXt

You might wanna get a better PSU when you have the chance. Preferably a Seasonic, Corsair, or Antec, because you're at the minimum for what your gfx card needs.

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