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April 13, 2013 5:07:43 AM

Hey guys,

I know you have heard this topic numerous times but I really need some help.

I'm planning to upgrade my monitor from a 1680*1050 to a 1080P.

Now for the future i want to upgrade my card.
Right now I have a msi gtx 560ti twin frozr 2. (love the card very happy with it almost 2 years old.) I overclocked it from 880mhz to 950mhz. temps are 62C max load.

I've narrowed my search down to the following cards:

MSI GeForce GTX 670 OC PE (fast, good cooling, good for overclocking any disadvantages?)

ASUS - GTX670-DC2-2GD5 (top is not deliverable in my country anymore good cooling, high speeds, bad Customer service?)

GV-N670OC-2GD - Gigabyte (recommended buy, very quiet,lower clock speeds?)

EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW (heard it was pretty loud from 60-70% fan speed)

I want to overclock the card a little bit while keeping the voltages untouched.
I like it if the card is somewhat quiet. FTW was to loud for me at 60%.

I also did some research about the MSI GTX 660 Ti Power Edition which reaches gtx 670 reference performance after a simple overclock. It's 100euro's cheaper for me as well...

I want to play games like bf3, far cry 3, crysis 1,2,3, project cars etc. maxed out with some AA on (4x). I can play these games maxed out most of the times but the fps are around 40-45fps with my current card and i have to set shadows to medium.I want to use AA in the future which my card can't handle at all with high settings.

system is:

i5 2500 (non K)
8 gb corsair xms 1333mhz
ocz modstream 600watt psu
500gb harddrive
no ssd (yet)
motherboard is a asus p8h67-m
case Thermaltake V3 Black Edition

So looking at the future and the use of AA at 1080p should I go for a 670 instead of a 660ti and then which 670 would be the best for me.


Hope you can help me out.
Thanks.


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a b U Graphics card
April 13, 2013 5:11:15 AM

Go for EVGA GeForce GTX 670 FTW
Its not loud atleast not the one im using this one :

This monster can boost 1250MHz+ No problem. Best "BANG for BUCK" Card.
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April 13, 2013 5:25:22 AM

Yes that is a nice card. Did some research and it is one of the fastest 670's out there. But I'm not sure about the sound and the temps of this card.

More people favor this card instead of my other options?

Just noticing that the radeon 7970 is a very good card as well.
I used to have ati, but I hated the drivers and overall software and switched to nvidea because of that.


The price of this card: Gigabyte GV-R797OC-3GD is only 8 euro's more in my country than a EVGA gtx 670 FTW..

I'm really confused now I read that a 7970 is a better card overall compared to a 670.

That said, looking at the similar prices, what should I do? How are the amd drivers nowadays? Are the 7970 easy to overclock as well? Which version would be the best for around the same price as a FTW or other 670 factory OC.

allright the 7970 is a no go, because most of them are more expensive and those cards only add more above 1080p.

Please can more people give me some advice for a gtx 670? Like to buy one tonight and get it over with;)
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April 15, 2013 12:10:26 AM

any suggestion on which card would be the best for me is much appreciated..
Still not sure at all..

Thanks
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a b U Graphics card
April 15, 2013 1:22:35 AM

Tieuw said:
any suggestion on which card would be the best for me is much appreciated..
Still not sure at all..

Thanks

Id recommend both the EVGA and ASUS, idk about Gigabyte, i currently own the ASUS GTX 670 DCII (Non TOP) and i oc'ed it to a stable 1200mhz boost (note voltage is locked @ 1175mv) - fan speeds at auto and temp never reached 73 Deg C, and the best thing was that the fan noise even at 70% when manually adjusted, was barely audible over my case fans. And looking at the EVGA card, i think it uses a rotary blower fan, which tend to be louder at high load/RPMs. if noise is a concern, id get the Asus GTX 670 DCII, otherwise, the EVGA GTX 670 FTW, which comes factory oc'ed
I would not recommend MSI GTX 670 PE because of this
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/MSI-GTX-660-670-overvo...
They may have recalled the said overvolted cards, but in no way am i gonna buy an MSI GTX 670 PE ever
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April 15, 2013 2:22:45 PM

oke thanks. I like the asus better and it coms with a backplate. If I can overclock it to about the same speeds as the ftw with less noise and lower temps. `the choice would be easy as that right?
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April 15, 2013 9:02:06 PM

yea, i can easily reach 1200mhz boost stable, but this actually depends on your specific chip, some oc better than the rest - you might even reach 1300mhz stable if you're lucky, and yea, the backplate is a nice addition, gives it a mean look and also adding rigidity to the card - which is better for your mobo's PCIe slot as it wont have to cope with the whole GPU's weight, large cards - specially the ones with custom coolers are heavy and tend to flex easily when installed, i had a GTX 580 DC II - triple slot, even with the backplate, it still droops/flexes a bit after installing it, on the other hand my new GTX 670 DCII doesnt flex at all, i think its the best choice for you if noise is an issue, so my advice is go for the ASUS GTX 670 DC II
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-tes...
here's a review by toms on seven 670's .. and id say the GTX 670 DC II TOP is the best if you take looks, noise and performance into account, but since the TOP version is always or almost always sold out, the next logical choice would be a non - TOP version and oc the hell out of it
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April 15, 2013 10:04:24 PM

The asus 670 is a very quiet card. And I believe all the 670's are dual slot coolers from asus though I could be wrong. The one I had was dual slot 4gig card. the 680's though take triple slots.
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April 15, 2013 10:07:51 PM

Airm3n said:
The asus 670 is a very quiet card. And I believe all the 670's are dual slot coolers from asus though I could be wrong. The one I had was dual slot 4gig card. the 680's though take triple slots.

thats right, 670 DC II = dual slot, 680 DC II= triple slot
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April 16, 2013 12:28:01 AM

The Asus card is the best GTX 670 overall no doubt, and backed by a great company like Asus.

The zotac one is good choice too.

Why on earth would you even buy a evga card anyway, bad cooling solution?

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-670-tes...

Doesn't it just look cool too. :D 






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April 16, 2013 2:13:09 AM

edogawa said:
The Asus card is the best GTX 670 overall no doubt, and backed by a great company like Asus.


Asus? ... Well I heard many stories about the asus card and their customer service :lol: 


I'd rather avoid Asus because of their horrible RMA stories Such as receiving computer equipment and damaging it and blaming the person who owns it! Heres few:

http://www.overclock.net/t/1377059/so-evga-670-ftw-vs-a...
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1644816/asus-gtx...
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?28135-Asus-GTX...!
http://www.overclock.net/t/1378201/asus-gtx-670-top-cra...


Zotac card is good but the real noisy card of all : http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Zotac/GeForce_GTX_67...


For OP I recommend The Gigabyte Tri-Slot cooler card great for overclocking and silence !

http://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/images/b462.jpg

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2012/11/12/gi...

Review: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2012/11/12/gi...

Either That or the EVGA GTX 670 FTW or the SIG2 comes with open dual fan cooler and OC very well.

http://tpucdn.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_670_FTW_Signature_2/...
http://tpucdn.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_670_FTW_Signature_2/...
Review:http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/EVGA/GTX_670_FTW_Sig...

EVGA got a better RMA support /Customer service. But for love of GFX card NOT ASUS:fou: 

Now its upto you brother :)  you know the facts & figures

Cheers
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April 16, 2013 7:09:21 AM

@OPP

Lol.

I've dealt with Asus a few times in the past and their customer service and RMA were outstanding and quick.

Don't believe their bad because a few people had an unlucky experience, it always happens with any company.
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April 16, 2013 7:14:00 AM

that's what i was thinking as well. Im from europe (holland). I have no idea how the rma of Asus is over here. But if the product is good overall which I've been reading, the change that it breaks down should be non to zero. I think I will be going for the Asus not top card. In combination with a dell u2312hm. Read a lot of nice reviews about this ips panel. Fast responds times for gaming and overall good picture quality for a reasonable price.

Any other suggestion regarding a 23 to 24 inch monitor of this price point?
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April 16, 2013 9:18:02 AM

Thanks.
Last one is a bit to expensive. The first Asus had some nice reviews, but overall the Dell should be better.
Is the difference in colors etc a lot better with IPS than with 'normal' monitors?
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April 16, 2013 10:00:41 AM

i just bought a new dell 24" monitor, its glossy - ive never used glossy screen before, but after using it for 2 weeks and a few hrs of gaming, i like it very much, - dell S2440L -AMVA Panel 6ms response time (much better contrast and very nice colors as compered to TN and some IPS panels), but limited connectivity tho - HDMI and VGA only.... here's a review if you're interested:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_s2440l.htm

and a review of dell u2312hm:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2312hm.htm

id say both are very good for gaming i.e if you dont mind the glossy screen of the S2440L
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April 16, 2013 6:02:26 PM

I can say that i've never even needed rma on anything i've bought from asus before. Gigabyte i'd be wary of though. I've tried to rma a mobo and a keyboard through them and they rejected it on stupid nonsense reasons for instance the keyboard I used their own provided key remover and the space bar broke so they said I didn't do it properly lol but there is only one way to do it. The mobo they said was damaged in shipment so they took no responsibility. Last thing I ever bought from them.

As for the last recommendation of the vg248qe monitor I can say they are excellent gaming monitors. Very quick and bright. I had to turn the brightness way down on mine so I could take off my polarized sunglasses :) . They also look really good in 3d.
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April 17, 2013 11:10:48 AM

That last screen is a bit above my budget. For around 200 the Dell seems the best choice for me.
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April 17, 2013 11:15:05 AM

Tieuw said:
That last screen is a bit above my budget. For around 200 the Dell seems the best choice for me.


Alright, well with a 200 budget there is this too:

http://www.amazon.com/Asus-VS248H-P-24-Inch-Full-HD-Mon...

If not you can go with the dell, whatever you feel best with. :D 
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April 18, 2013 2:14:15 PM

Nice screen lil cheaper as well. But I think the differents in speed is not noticable in real life right? Putting the speed aside which screen would be the most beautiful to see. (color/sharpness wise)
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April 18, 2013 2:49:04 PM

Can't speak of how the dell would be, but the Asus ones should look pretty good, difference may not be significant though.
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April 18, 2013 4:52:47 PM

From 60hz to 120hz you notice a big improvement. From 120hz to 144hz not so much.
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April 18, 2013 11:48:59 PM

Tieuw said:
Nice screen lil cheaper as well. But I think the differents in speed is not noticable in real life right? Putting the speed aside which screen would be the most beautiful to see. (color/sharpness wise)


Colour/Sharpness/Contrast -- you cant beat the dell S2440L for its price (IDK why its mentioned as IPS panel, coz mine is AMVA panel and im sure dell website also says MVA panel which are better in contrast, black depth and colour reproductions as compared to IPS and TN panels)
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-C9VNT-IPS-LED-24-Inch-LED-li...

if you think 250$ is a bit too costly, here's a 23" model S2340M, a lot cheaper at 150$ and uses IPS panel
http://www.amazon.com/Dell-293M3-IPS-LED-23-Inch-LED-li...
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April 19, 2013 7:21:10 AM

thanks for the input. But i'm about to buy the u2312hm though. Reading such good reviews about it great input speed no ghosting or lag of anykind etc etc. And that for an ips. Just really curious to see the colors of an ips screen.

No for the videocard it will either be the evga gtx 670 ftw or the Non top asus dcii.. Still not sure ftw is a lil cheaper and faster out of the box but im worried about temps and noise..
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April 19, 2013 9:26:25 AM

Tieuw said:
thanks for the input. But i'm about to buy the u2312hm though. Reading such good reviews about it great input speed no ghosting or lag of anykind etc etc. And that for an ips. Just really curious to see the colors of an ips screen.

No for the videocard it will either be the evga gtx 670 ftw or the Non top asus dcii.. Still not sure ftw is a lil cheaper and faster out of the box but im worried about temps and noise..


IPS is nice, sounds like a plan.

How much of a price difference is there between the EVGA, and Asus card for you?

You should go with the Asus TOP edition, it will overclock better than the EVGA card, run cooler, and be silent.

Here is a review of it from techpowerup:
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ASUS/GeForce_GTX_670...

Go with the Asus, it will be quiet, run cooler, and you can overclock it too. Asus customer support is very good too.
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April 20, 2013 6:20:05 AM

allright i got both the dell and the asus card in my system now. Great improvement! But somehow my card gets 73 degrees after a heaven benchmark. Even if i put the fan setting up to 90% when it hits 68* it is still going over 70... My room is farely cool around 18-19 degrees. And idle temps are 28-29 degrees. How can i get it under 70?
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April 20, 2013 12:35:43 PM

73C is safe, GPUS always run a lot hotter than a CPU.
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April 20, 2013 4:22:07 PM

yea but i wanted to stay under 70c, because the boost clock gets lowered at that point right? I had to take my side panel off. Pc is elevated of the floor so that won't matter really would it? I got a stable 1254mhz boost and +300 on the mem. around 1270 points in heaven. Funny thing is that i got a 1267 boost when i didnt overclock the memory. But with the mem overclock i got more fps in heaven..
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a b U Graphics card
April 20, 2013 5:33:13 PM

73c is how hot mine gets after running heaven, and it's good. GPU boost is always on too. What settings did you use for heaven ?
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April 21, 2013 2:03:11 AM

Tieuw said:
allright i got both the dell and the asus card in my system now. Great improvement! But somehow my card gets 73 degrees after a heaven benchmark. Even if i put the fan setting up to 90% when it hits 68* it is still going over 70... My room is farely cool around 18-19 degrees. And idle temps are 28-29 degrees. How can i get it under 70?


edogawa said:
73C is safe, GPUS always run a lot hotter than a CPU.


73 deg is very safe, and heaven tend to load the GPU to 100% load all the time, so your temps should be a bit lower in real world gaming, if you want 70deg, you could try running the fan at 100%, plus you need a good airflow cabinet wit low ambient temps to be able to get 70 degs
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April 21, 2013 2:41:43 AM


Na i don't want to run it at 100%. I can just leave my side panel off right? For heaven I use maxed out settings at 1080P. 1265-1274 points at most stable runs. Got 1293 at +500mem but to many artifacts in the run.
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April 21, 2013 4:20:21 AM

Tieuw said:

Na i don't want to run it at 100%. I can just leave my side panel off right? For heaven I use maxed out settings at 1080P. 1265-1274 points at most stable runs. Got 1293 at +500mem but to many artifacts in the run.


well, dont really get concerned with the 73 degs.. its normal, some EVGA cards even reach 80 degs on full load, so temps arent that high, as for the side panel, if you can install a fan blowing cool air to feed the GPU, that would be better than leaving it open
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April 21, 2013 12:13:20 PM

What notea said is correct, keep side panel on, you're temperatures are excellent for what you're doing, like expected.

Just make sure cable management in case is good too.
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April 21, 2013 2:09:35 PM

that the problem my case is relativly cheap so i can't run the cables through the back of the case. Why is it so bad to leave the side of? The top already has 2 large perforated squares for more fans.. and the side panel has one as well. So I don't have to put it on for the dust or anything.. I got better performance with the side of than on (same clock settings)
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April 21, 2013 4:38:32 PM

If you had a couple of fans pushing air directly onto the gpu from the side it may be even better like notea said. If you ever consider another case i've always had good luck with the corsair series like 400r or 500r and my favorite recent case was a cooler master haf xb. The last one is a nice little case with enough room to fit pretty well any gpu and excellent ventilation as well. Pretty cheap to buy as well i think i picked mine up for around 80$ CDN.
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April 21, 2013 6:18:17 PM

You can leave the side of the case off, but I don't think the air flow through case will properly work unless the side panel is on; plus it's also risky in case you spill something or something goes inside like a metal object.

Everything looks great though.

Just put the side panel back on and it will be fine unless it drastically raises temperatures, but unlikely.

You're next upgrade should be a better case too. :D 
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a b U Graphics card
April 21, 2013 9:23:36 PM

Tieuw said:
that the problem my case is relativly cheap so i can't run the cables through the back of the case. Why is it so bad to leave the side of? The top already has 2 large perforated squares for more fans.. and the side panel has one as well. So I don't have to put it on for the dust or anything.. I got better performance with the side of than on (same clock settings)


hmmm.. you have some high end equipment there, why'd you wanna use a small case, get a new case with good airflow such as Corsair Carbide/Graphite/Obsidian/Vengeance series, coolermaster HAF series, or whatever is available in your region, plus these cases provide cable management options which also increases the air circulation inside your case

Update: i've taken a look at your case http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=c_000...
Front (Intake) : 120 x 120 x 25 mm (optional)
Rear (Exhaust) : 120 x 120 x 25 mm Blue LED fan, 1300rpm, 17dBA
Top (Exhaust) : 120 x 120 x 25 mm (optional)
Bottom (Intake) : 120 x 120 x 25 mm (optional)

now, there's only the rear exhaust 120mm others optional, if you can install another 120mm fan for front intake and 1 more on the top for exhaust, i think the airflow would effectively double making it a lot cooler. but then id still advise you to get a better case because i dont see any cable management options behind the motherboard tray, plus it's too cramped for good airflow.. ill add a pic of my system for reference

even tho its not a top notch cable management, it gets the job done with 2x 200mm fans (front intake and top exhaust) and 120mm radiator push fan
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April 22, 2013 2:29:07 AM

Nice case. Yea to bad I can't put the cables away. I might buy 2 additional fans like you sad. I was looking at two of these: Scythe Slip Stream 120 SY1225SL12M - 120 x 120 x 25 mm. Good price and not to noisy. Can I just buy 2 of these and will they connect properly with my motherboard?
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April 22, 2013 2:41:56 AM

yep, that's a very good case fan, my advice is still to get a new case, if that's not a possibility, you could add two of these, don't worry, these fans come with 3pin PWM connector and most motherboards support 2 or more, if not, they always come with a 4pin molex adapter and there shouldn't be any problem connecting them to either your mobo or your PSU

Edit: your mobo comes with only one 3 pin connector, that still wont be a problem as you can still connect the other using the 4 pin molex adapter to your PSU
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April 22, 2013 5:58:21 AM

Well a new case will be another project. (when i buy a new pc) Just bought 2 of those fans. Good price and reviews on it.
But where should I put the two fans. One in the front and the other one on the first or the second mounting place on top? I would say the last on near the back right?

Edit: just noticed only the first one on top of the case has the mounting holes for a fan.
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April 22, 2013 6:15:46 AM

one is obviously at the front (intake) the other should be directly above your GPU/CPU, and please make sure you install the front fan in an intake (it sucks in air into the case) and the top fan should blow out hot air (exhaust) out of the case
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April 22, 2013 6:31:35 AM

Yea I know. The ugly side of the fan exhaust air. and the other side sucks air in. How does that molex adapter work that's included? I just put the regular 3pin connector into that and the other end straight in the psu?
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April 22, 2013 6:35:20 AM

this is a pic of a 3pin to 4 pin molex adapter, i hope it came bundled with your fan


the smaller 3 pin should connect to your fan and the four pin to your PSU
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April 22, 2013 6:48:02 AM

Oke I''ll get the fans tomorrow. But i don't see anything on my psu were that molex adapter can go in...?

Wait i think i got the cable laying here. Its a black six pin that goes in the psu. and the other end can connect to the molex I think..
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April 22, 2013 6:53:41 AM

its the 12v 4 pin female molex connector which comes with all PSUs, pic for reference
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April 22, 2013 6:58:09 AM

Thanks. I found that one
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April 22, 2013 3:18:34 PM

Scythe makes some good fans, let us know if the temperatures improve with the fans.
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April 23, 2013 3:11:12 PM

Yes the temps did improve. As well as my noise level! I decided to just put in one extra fan for air intake. I can't connect them to my mobo so they always spin full rpm. 3 fan's total was way to loud for me. But my benchmark improved even with one extra fan. vga settings are now +155mhz on the core and +500mem Mv and powertarget maxed out. Heaven benchmark maxed out setting 1080p gave me a score of 1281pts. Max temp of the card was 65C.

Update: I suggest you download the latest beta driver 320.00. I just tested it once with heaven and i got a score of 1301pts.
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April 24, 2013 10:06:39 PM

allrite, glad to hear, if everything is done, please close the thread and select your best answer
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