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Budget 500$ gaming pc with core i3 3220

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April 14, 2013 6:06:26 AM

As of right now, I have the list for my budget build but its a bit over my budget. I was wondering maybe you guys could whip one up with a core i3 3220 as the cpu. And for the gpu, maybe a cheaper gpu than the radeon 7770 oc. Im okay with nvidia. And no os included. And you dont have to include a monitor but if you could add an 18.5" one just under the budget. Thanks.
April 14, 2013 6:13:20 AM

I could set you up a really nice one for around $600.00 USD would you be interested in that kind of setup or are you firm on 500.00?
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April 14, 2013 6:33:10 AM

@sub7forhire im on a strict 500$

@zolton33 thanks for the list. Hows the athlon ii x2 270 working out for you? Can your rig handle bf3 and other similar games? And for the a10 build, id rather have a good discrete gpu to start with. Thanks anyway
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April 14, 2013 6:42:46 AM

Heh not much of a first person shooter player but if you can gage it from grand theft auto san andreas? that game plays flawlessly. I'm more of an rpg and mmorpg nut if you know what i mean. My setup was cheap and rushed to replace a dead pc and so i can get off the wifes pc :p  so it was built cheap out of necessity. I plan to do another upgrade as i get the money ahead replacing the gpu and the cpu. But its not a bad build. A lot faster then my old amd athlon 64 x2 4400+ i was on before lol.

If i had the money i probably would have gone with an a10-5800k or the FX-6300 which i plan to upgrade my cpu to or to a FX-8350 if i can get my funds up that high. Also i'm using windows xp 32 bit with a max of 4 gigs of ram so before a cpu or gpu upgrade i plan on a ram and os upgrade first. That is what i like about the am3+ board is that i have several options when upgrading. And 1-2 newer amd cpu' lines yet to be released. And the boards are cheaper i may be able to hunt down a cheap am3+ build if you want. i bought the board i did in case i want to later unlock a cpu to play around. Plus it was cheap and within my budget.
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April 14, 2013 6:50:08 AM

Ok here's a build. There was no way to work a monitor into it and make budget:

G.SKILL Value 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9S-4GBNT
Model #:F3-10666CL9S-4GBNT
Item #:N82E16820231423
$29.99 $29.99
There were a couple ways to do this. Normally I'd go for a two-stick kit to operate in dual-channel mode. That would populate both slots on a budget motherboard though, necessitating replacing them to add memory; this way you can buy another stick later. You'll lose a little performance, but not much.

GIGABYTE GV-N65TOC-1GI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Model #:GV-N65TOC-1GI
Item #:N82E16814125447
$129.99 $129.99
Not quite the cheapest one, but this GTX650Ti has a nice factory OC on it. I wanted to work a Boost Edition card into this build, but couldn't quite do it.

Athena Power CA-GSB01DA Black 0.8mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - OEM
Model #:CA-GSB01DA
Item #:N82E16811192289
$29.99 -$5.00 Instant $24.99
This case has 0.8mm steel, which is very solid for a cheap case.

ASRock B75M-DGS R2.0 LGA 1155 Intel B75 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
Model #:B75M-DGS R2.0
Item #:N82E16813157362
$54.99 -$5.00 Instant $49.99
This board has modern interfaces (USB3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s), but is otherwise very limited on expansion, with but a single PCI slot. This is probably the first piece I'd improve with a budget increase.

Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply
Model #:VP-450
Item #:N82E16817371045
$49.99 -$5.00 Instant $44.99
A few weeks ago, this PSU was $10 less. It is still probably the cheapest one I'd buy though.

Intel Core i3-3220 Ivy Bridge 3.3GHz LGA 1155 55W Dual-Core Desktop Processor ...
Model #:BX80637i33220
Item #:N82E16819116775
$129.99 $129.99
Your specified CPU. Should be a good choice.

Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
Model #:WD5000AAKX
Item #:N82E16822136769
$59.99 $59.99
Seems to me I saw a deal on a 500GB Seagate for $10 less last week, but it probably required a discount code.

LG 24X DVD Burner - Bare Drive Black SATA Model GH24NS95 - OEM
Model #:GH24NS95
Item #:N82E16827136259
$17.99 $17.99
Meh. One optical drive is much like another.

Subtotal: $487.92
Shipping will likely use the rest of your budget. If you've got some wiggle room, the first thing I'd improve is the motherboard. The brand is fine, I'd just like one with a few more features and slots.
It would not surprise me if you could find one or more deals, shaving a few dollars off a few of these items. If you live near a Microcenter, they often have CPU+mobo combo deals.
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April 14, 2013 6:53:22 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/QC2K Base Total: $506.30

That is a FX-6300 build you could go with a cheaper cpu to start out with to get a better gpu or get a much better gpu later on. But still its not a bad build its like mine except quite a bit better. In home builds though i like going with a bit better cases as you can reuse them over and over. but you could go with a cheaper case then the Cooler Master HAF 922 which is $89.99 you can get a case as cheap as $30 but many are not well ventilated. But its a way you can cut corners a bit. And if so you could bump up to a better gpu.
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April 14, 2013 6:56:22 AM

Won't he need a copy of Windows for like an additional $90?
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April 14, 2013 6:56:53 AM

Onus i second you on the VP-450 psu its what i'm using right now. I got mine back in November for around $39.99 its a steal in my opinion. So when i recommend builds its my go to psu.
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April 14, 2013 6:57:33 AM

peterisluego said:
Won't he need a copy of Windows for like an additional $90?


No he said in his first post not to include the os.
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April 14, 2013 7:05:17 AM

I would NOT use a cheap MSI board with any thought of overclocking; they use weak VRMs that pop under load.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ag...
If you go AMD, you want a true 900-series chipset board, which ups the price; I think there are a few around $80.
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April 14, 2013 7:11:31 AM

Onus said:
I would NOT use a cheap MSI board with any thought of overclocking; they use weak VRMs that pop under load.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ag...
If you go AMD, you want a true 900-series chipset board, which ups the price; I think there are a few around $80.


I should have mentioned that i never overclock so its why i went with the msi board. The most i would do with it is maybe unlock a cpu. But seeing how i'm planning to go with an fx series with my next cpu upgrade its kind of a useless extra lol. Although i will note also my pc refused to come on at one point while a keyboard was plugged in. Something to either do with my keyboard or the keyboard ports so i fixed it by going with a usb keyboard.
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April 14, 2013 7:15:42 AM

Thanks for the replies guys.

@zolton33 when you said that you could probably unlock another core with the mobo for the athlon ii, can it compare to the performance of an i3? I mean i saw that athlon ii run bf3 with a decent gpu and it looked great. Im pretty sure the graphics were on high or medium or something and the res was definitely lowered but it still looked good. And maybe in the future ill do some upgrades.

Tbh, im an amd fan since they are so wallet friendly and most of the wallte friendly cpus offer great performance (e.g. Athlon ii, phenom ii) and ill always be on the upgrade path for years to come. I dont really want an i3 but it seems to be the best looking cpu available in my local stores. Theyre freaking intel lovers. almost no support for amd. the athlon ii x2 isthe best amd processor available locally. Sucks so bad. Until i saw the clip of the athlon ii x2 270 running bf3 on high and far cry 3 on ultra, im having second thoughts. ( my gou choice is better than the one in the clips. So yeah. This is why im so freaking into your current build right now.
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April 14, 2013 7:20:52 AM

Also do you guys think most of these prices will drop in 1-2 months time?
And could you guys suggest a good am3 mobo? I might pursue with an athlon ii x2 build.

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April 14, 2013 7:32:10 AM

Yeah but only certain athlon and phenom have unlockable cores. The one i purchased does not have locked cores. But if unlocked a dual becomes a 3 core a 3 core a 4 and so on.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1005739/what-unlocks-the-unl...

A list of unlockable cores and information on them. So if you can grab one of these cheap it be worth it. There are a few motherboards that can unlock cpu's i just happened to buy the cheapest one there is. And yeah the am3+ cpu socket does offer quite a few upgrade paths at least for a few years especially since the next amd cpu architecture is slated to be an am3+ and improve apon the 8350 line slightly which are already very good cpu's.

And since most games are gpu driven so long as the cpu does not bottleneck the gpu you can always get better gaming with a cheaper cpu and a better gpu over a cheaper gpu and a more expensive cpu. And most games are not taking full advantage of more then 2 cores so dual cores are still pretty good for gaming. So i plan on a gpu upgrade before a cpu upgrade lol but before that i need more ram and windows 7 64 so i can use more then 4 gigs of ram. They have the Athlon II X4 640 listed here http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-cpu-review-o... its about $80 or the Phenom II X4 965 for $100 which while a bit more expensive then the athlon II X2 270 they are a bit better as well. So also worth considering.
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April 14, 2013 7:42:45 AM

Ok, here's an AMD version. I have an Intel and an AMD rig right now; the Intel rig is clearly faster. When I had my graphics cards switched, the Intel+7770 was smoother than the AMD+HD7870, although graphical settings weren't quite as high.

Antec VP-450 450W ATX 12V v2.3 Power Supply
Model #:VP-450
Item #:N82E16817371045
$49.99 -$5.00 Instant $44.99
Same.

ASRock 970 EXTREME3 AM3+ AMD 970 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
Model #:970 EXTREME3
Item #:N82E16813157280
$94.99 -$10.00 Instant $84.99
Is OK to OC per that spreadsheet I linked.

GIGABYTE GV-N65TOC-1GI GeForce GTX 650 Ti 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready Video Card
Model #:GV-N65TOC-1GI
Item #:N82E16814125447
$129.99 $129.99
Same.

G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Desktop Memory Model F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS
Model #:F3-10666CL9D-4GBNS
Item #:N82E16820231396
$33.99 $33.99
Since the motherboard has 4 RAM slots, this kit will run in dual channel mode but still leave two slots available for upgrading later.

Athena Power CA-GSB01DA Black 0.8mm SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - OEM
Model #:CA-GSB01DA
Item #:N82E16811192289
$29.99 -$5.00 Instant $24.99
Same.

AMD Athlon II X4 640 Propus 3.0GHz Socket AM3 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor ADX640WFGMBOX
Model #:ADX640WFGMBOX
Item #:N82E16819103871
$74.99 $74.99
For $25 more, you can get a 965BE, but then you'd want a $20 Xigmatek Gaia to go with it. You may still want the Gaia, as stock AMD heat sinks are loud under load. The Gaia is quieter than the Coolermaster Hyper212 EVO and cools within 1C of that one, for a lot less money.

Western Digital WD Blue WD5000AAKX 500GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive - OEM
Model #:WD5000AAKX
Item #:N82E16822136769
$59.99 $59.99
Same.

LG 24X DVD Burner - Bare Drive Black SATA Model GH24NS95 - OEM
Model #:GH24NS95
Item #:N82E16827136259
$17.99 $17.99
Same.

Subtotal: $471.92
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April 14, 2013 7:48:11 AM

That Biostar board isn't a 900-series. The SB is the 710; you want the 950 in order to get SATA 6Gb/s and USB3.0.

And no, I would not expect prices to drop. There may be some fluctuation, but which parts, in which direction, are hard to predict.
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April 14, 2013 7:48:17 AM

It says in the spreadsheet that the athlon ii x2 2xx cannot be unlocked. Am I screwed? Lol
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April 14, 2013 7:49:04 AM

Definitely a sweet build Onus. The case looks pretty decent. I love my case though http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... It is a shame i can never find another like it to recommend. But the case you mentioned does look pretty decent and is dirt cheap as well. If i was doing a new build case and all that is one i would definitely consider myself barring not being able to find one similar to my current case.
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April 14, 2013 7:53:36 AM

You do not want a x2 for today's games. Remember that benchmarking systems are typically "naked." By the time you add your AV scanner, Teamspeak, Steam client, etc. etc. etc. you'll grind a poor X2 into the ground.
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April 14, 2013 7:57:00 AM

What about the fx 4100? Its a quad core. The more the merrier right?
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April 14, 2013 7:57:40 AM

Even unlocked its not a bad cpu. But you could go with the 640 that Onus mentioned its $20 more and a quad core so not to shabby. Or another $40 for the phenom ii x4 965 neither are unlockable but being quad cores they still are not to shabby and a huge step over the amd athlon ii x2 270 i'm using currently. And if you plan to not upgrade the cpu for a good while the quad core is a good investment.
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April 14, 2013 8:03:01 AM

The performance edge today definitely goes to Intel. I will say though, if you enjoy playing "with" your PC as much as playing "on" your PC, budget AMD systems are a lot more fun and interesting. Budget Intel chips are locked, and have only slight OC potential by messing with the BCLOCK. Budget AMD CPUs can be tweaked in a lot more ways.
If you're going to be playing at 1366x768, another option to consider is lowering the graphics card to as little as a HD7750 in order to get a better motherboard, CPU, and cooler. A graphics card is easy to upgrade later, a motherboard not so. I've played GW2 using a HD7750 as high as 1600x900, and settings were still pretty decent.
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April 14, 2013 8:03:05 AM

I would go with the 4300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... over the 4100 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... it is 15 bucks and the 4300 is a lot better cpu though in my opinion. FX series cpu's i'd go with either the 4300 the 6300 or the big boy the 8350. These 3 are the latest cpu's as well as being a cut above the others.

The 6300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $139.99

4300 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $119.99

8350 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... $199.99

But these are pretty good cpu's at their price ranges. And really decent gaming cpu's.
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April 14, 2013 8:07:23 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... A10-5800k $129.99 and it has a built in HD 7660D gpu so if you are looking to go dirt cheap this way you get a half way decent cpu that is also a quad and a decent gpu for a set low price. The fm2 motherboard is a newer socket and there is at least one more apu line of cpu's to be released for the fm2 socket. So not a bad gaming build either.

Also a sale until 4/15 you can take off an extra $15 so a great buy.
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April 14, 2013 8:13:59 AM

So I really cant unlock the athlon ii x2 270 then? I might as well get the fx 4100 as it might fit my budget. I also saw on a read that the 4100 might be a good investment for future games cos they will utilize more of its features. And the asrock n68c-gs sounds promising to me.
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April 14, 2013 8:37:28 AM

The FX-4100 is one of the Faildozer chips; not worth it. The FX-4300 is what, 20% better? That's a lot.
The n68c is an ancient-technology board with an AM3+ socket stuck on it. If you go AM3+, a 900-series board (SB950 Southbridge, not the "960" which uses the 710) is the ONLY way to go.
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April 14, 2013 8:46:05 AM

I don't think an APU makes sense for a gaming PC. It's an excellent general-purpose chip, but a gaming machine will still need a discrete graphics card. At that point, what matters is CPU power, and right now, like it or not, Intel wins. The only room for debate seems to be Intel dual-core (not hyperthreaded) vs. AMD quad, in which case I believe I'd want the AMD quad. Once you get to the hyperthreaded i3s like the 3220, you need to look at AMD's non-"budget" offerings in order to compete.
If you do want to push an AMD CPU hard, then you need that aftermarket cooler (another $20) and a mobo with decent VRMs on it, so you start getting out of that "budget" range.
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April 14, 2013 12:47:25 PM

Definitely go with Intel, it may not be unlocked, but for any of AMD's chips, even the FX 8350 to compete you need to overclock it and with those chips already consuming a lot of energy and producing more heat a 55w i3 on a stock heatsink is better.
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April 14, 2013 9:05:39 PM

MaxGardener said:
Definitely go with Intel, it may not be unlocked, but for any of AMD's chips, even the FX 8350 to compete you need to overclock it and with those chips already consuming a lot of energy and producing more heat a 55w i3 on a stock heatsink is better.


The 8350 destroys an i3 as does the 6300 and the 4300. Intel still has the biggest edge in their i5 and i7 cpu's and their better single threading. And as Onus said having a quad cpu in the amd has its advantages over a dual core i3. One of which is that you can get a decent am3+ board relatively cheaply. While intel boards are a lot more expensive by comparison. The quad core build Onus posted is what i'd go with then upgrade the video card once funds allow it and then later upgrade the cpu to a FX line.
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April 15, 2013 2:20:13 AM

Thanks guys. As of right now, im thinking of getting the fx 4100 if i get the money right now. Im still going to buy the pc in about a month or so so ill have enough time and knowledge to be able decide for real. Im just a really big amd fan. I might go and get the i3 if my mind changes.
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April 15, 2013 11:20:14 AM

The FX-4100 is not the one to get. The FX-4300 would be the one you want.
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April 20, 2013 5:02:16 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... Here is not a bad buy on a a AMD Athlon II X2 270 you get it plus the BIOSTAR A880GZ AM3+ AMD 880G and CORSAIR XMS 4GB 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 for a total cost of $129.97 not bad for a basic build you can upgrade later on. Although over clocking would be out of the question unless you replace the board later on.
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April 20, 2013 8:22:34 AM

Someone I know got one of those Biostar boards and I think may still be regrowing the hair he pulled out. I don't remember the details, but when I suggested one in a low-cost build, he had quite a litany of woe, and it did not sound at all like user error or a bad sample, but serious design and/or BIOS issues. Again, it's not a 900-series board, so probably best to pass over on a new build.
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