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hermus

hermus

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So here's the thing,

I get really weird freezes from time to time, can't predict when it's going to happen, and for how long although it seems to get longer and longer.

but first, my setup:
Antec three hundred 2
Gigabyte H77-DS3H v1.0
i5 2320( not oc'd)
Corsair 8Gb 1600MHz hp
Sapphire HD 6850
OCZ modXtream 500W
western digital blue 500GB
western digital blue 1TB
an optical drive and a Tp-link wifi card.
I build it around a year ago and the freezes started about 1-2 weeks after I got it.

I'm going to do my best in describing what happens:
From time to time my pc just hangs, nothing responds, nothing works anymore, not a single command or input, not even my power button, unless I press it for 5 sec as a hard powerdown, that's the only way to get past it. also when it freezes, if there is any sound playing, ingame, music, anything, its sort of stuck in a millisecond loop and it's noise coming from my speakers.
Now the thing is it didn't start like that, in the beginning it only happened during games, just for 2-3 seconds, a little freeze and the noise but it passed, the system seemed to get over it. but after 6 months the problem went from taking minutes to recover to just not recover at all, maybe if I let it run for days, no idea (I did let it run for 3 hours once to see whether it would pass, nothing changed)
but after a year now it happens in idle and in windows as well, so it got kind of worse.
Now the thing is it can happen twice in one day or not for weeks, it's totally random.

I've tried everything I can think of,
searched the web for others having the same problem but not much luck seeing I didn't know what caused it. I thought it might be wrong voltage output's from my PSU, took it back and it was cleared by the helpdesk.
Then seeing it only happened during gaming I thought it might be my GPU, took it out and played on my onboard gpu, still happened.
I ran some diagnostic tests, Memtest ran for 24 hours and couldn't find a thing, same for my HDD, ran HD-tune and couldn't find any corrupted sectors.

I formatted, re installed my OS all software and drivers, no change.
I still didn't really clear my HDD so I bought a new one, the 1TB from WD, I needed the space anyway, but it's still happening although it seems shorter again? could my mobo screw up my HDD overtime? like the problem gets worse and worse?

one thing that I still might rule out is the fact that my RAM is faster then my CPU can handle, I bought 1600Mhz by accident, CPU only goes up to 1333MHz, but in my BIOS it seems fine at 1333Mhz, it shouldn't matter right?

I did take my mobo and CPU back for testing to the shop where I bought it but after a week I called to hear how things where going. They hadn't started testing anything yet and it was 'cleared' the next morning and I could come pick it up... so that happened.

I'm clueless :(
Hope you guys can help.
(Also this is the right tread to post this in right?)
 
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mironso

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Hi, have you tried to connect you hdd with new sata cable? Try to connect with different power line your hdd, may be connector is faulty.
I think memory should work OK, otherwise test will show any possible error.
 
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hermus

hermus

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Sorry for the late reply, I thought I fixed it, one thing I didn't check was the extension cord I used, it seems to be a model that has some faults, my brother had the same one and it has a power overload protection, but the fuse kept blowing on his, so I thought maybe mine might be faulty as well, plugged my power cord in to the wall but no change, it stayed dormant for another week or 2 but it's back now.
Frustration is starting to creep up on me.

I used a different sata cable for the HDD, different sata port on MOBO and another socket on the PSU to plug the power cable into, haven't swapped it yet for the power cable going to the DVD-drive (it's all tied up for CM), I could try swapping them to see whether the power cable is faulty.

As far as I can tell my motherboard doesn't support XMP profiling, and I can't change the speed nor the Voltage for my memory, it's set to automatic, I can't change it to be fixed at say 1333Mhz. But I suppose that shouldn't be a problem. I am going to swap my memory for a set of 1333Mhz from an other pc, to see whether or not the memory is to blame.

One thing I noticed is that in the couple of seconds before the freeze, it sort of gradually goes into it, it freezes a second, the is able to still do something the freezes again then does something, freezes again and then it's stuck. But this happens in mere seconds.
The weirdest thing I still don't get is that there isn't a single error or log of it freezing, so when I reboot it, all it says is that I forced a shut-down. And that when it's frozen nothing works except for my dvd drive, it still opens and closes. So my pc has no idea or any log/memory of it freezing.
 
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hermus

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Yeah I know that, I accidentally bought 1600 instead of 1333, but shouldn't the RAM just be able to underclock without screwing up my pc?
because I can switch mine with a friends whose got 1333Mhz, but his CPU doesn't support 1600Mhz either so if the underclocking is the reason of my problems, I'm not going switch them.
Any idea as to how I could see whether or not the RAM is causing probs? I've run memtest and it comes out clean.
 
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Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit Randomly Freezes
No BSOD just random freezes with screen on and no keys or cursor repsond, all I can do is use a hard reset to restart. Then I get the standard windows was not shut down properly messege at start-up. I have been having this issue/s and have tried all the same standard help people have had to offer, in all the dfferent post I've read online.
To actually fix this issue I ended up having to go to the device manager and check for driver updates on all my devices, one at a time. I think the ones that had updates that fixed this issue were the ACPIx64-based PC under the computer drop down and the IDE ATA/ATAPI controllers especially the ICH ATA and SATA AHCI ontrollers (I think these made the difference). I checked them all, but these were the only ones that had updates. Once those were updated and the computer was restarted, it has stayed on. It's been on for a day now and no problems so far.
 
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