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Project: [2nd] // Semi-Budget (i7) Build for an Architecture Student

Constantly updating this first post with current build parts.
Parts undecided marked with orange.
Currently there is on motherboard and ram undecided. Anyone?
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Hello!
My name is Yero.

I am a 3rd-year Architecture student, designer, and gamer.
I want to build a new computer.

Budget Range:
Budget way overblown, but I am going for it. There is only Mother board and RAM left to figure out.

Approximate Purchase Date:
Summer school starts in a month. I need to have it built by then.

Country:
USA

Preferred Website(s) for Parts:
newegg.com

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
3D modelling and rendering, Gaming, Video editing, Photoshop, Surfing web, ...

Overclocking:
Yes

Parts Not Required:
What ever is not in "Parts Preferences" below.

Operation System:
Windows 8 x64 bit and Mac OS X

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Parts Preferences:
Below is a list of parts. Some of them I am taking over from my last build. Most already selected and a couple still undecided. I need help choosing the best bang-for-the-buck parts. I am sure most people are asking for the same. Budgets are tight. So if there is something that can replace current part, but save up some money without loosing feature I need, I would love to have a link to that part!!!

CPU - Intel Core i7 (I want hyperthreading)
Intel Core i7-3930K Sandy Bridge-E 3.2GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 2011 130W Six-Core Desktop Processor BX80619i73930K

Cooler - Any kind of dual water kit.
CORSAIR Hydro Series H100i Water Cooler

Motherboard - LGA 2011, At least 2x USB 3.0, able to Raid 1, Wi-Fi onboard, Quad Channel RAM, Be able to overclock CPU and RAM. I'd love to have something like HD Audio, but the last one isn't a necessity. Got to be not more then $200
BIOSTAR TPOWER X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

Ram - 16GB, Overclockable, Quad-channel, not more then $150 for 4 sticks?
CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M4X1600C7

Power Supply: Modular, doesn't look ugly.
CORSAIR CX Series CX750 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply

HD1: SSD, 256 GB
Kingston HyperX 3K SH103S3B/240G 2.5" 240GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (Upgrade Bundle Kit)

Case - Corsair C70 only!!
Corsair Vengeance Series C70 Military Green Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

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The following parts are not part of the budged listed above because I already own them.

HD2:
I am going to run x2 2TB hard drives in raid 1 for all of my data. It is not on budget because I already have them.

Video Card:
I am going to use my EVGA GeForce 280 for now and come back with a separate budget for a video card that will do good in both gaming my programs (cuda).

Additional Comments:
I tried to make it as simple as possible. Hopefully my layout and minimalistic comments help make it easier on those who help.

Thanks!
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  1. Motherboard : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131820 (Highly recommend it, currently using it with no problems and it has wi-fi on board + Raid Supported)

    Processor : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819116501 (Using it too, works awesome)

    Ram : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820148545 (Best bang for the buck at the moment)

    Power supply : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139040&Tpk=cx750&IsVirtualParent=1 (Looks good)

    HD1 (SSD) : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820239050 (Highly recommended by TekSyndicate (Youtube). One of the fastest SSD on the market.)

    It should come around 1100$. The reason why i didn't give you the link for the H100i is because i currently have a H100 with my 3770k and it doesn't make you able to ovedrclock more. The 3770k is a dead wall for overclocking unless you have a real water cooling loop. I recommend you to stay with the stock cooler. Anyway, the benefits of overclocking are so small that it's not worth it. With the rest of the money you can grab another pair of sticks of ram or keep it for the video card. If you want to spend around 300-400$ for the video card, i recommend 660Ti or 670 because they are really good for editing/rendering. Hope you get this build working !


    - The Brownie
  2. Best answer
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

    CPU: Intel Core i7-3930K 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($539.99 @ Newegg)
    CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: ASRock X79 Extreme6 ATX LGA2011 Motherboard ($199.99 @ Newegg)
    Memory: Crucial Ballistix sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($84.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($249.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: NZXT HALE 90 850W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($102.00 @ Newegg)
    Total: $1286.95
    (Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
    (Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-15 23:54 EDT-0400)

    LGA2011 will really help in extreme modeling with those 12 threads.
    Paired with the H100i and you'll be overclock really good.
    One of the cheapest LGA2011 motherboard.
    16gb of ram should be good enough, if you feel that it's bottlenecking you then you can buy another set of the same model for 32gb total.
    One of the best SSDs right now. Great performance paired with great reliability will make you happy.
    Chose an 850w 80+ gold modular psu so you will have tons of room for upgrading in the future.

    I suggest upgrading the gpu soon, as that will be bottlenecking you pretty hard when you start to use multiple modeling/rendering programs.
  3. Thanks for your quick replies! I got three questions now:

    1. How much would Intel Core i7-3770K vs Intel Core i7-3930K be a difference and is that difference worth the money?

    2. Also would I be able to set up a quad channel ram with any of those motherboards and rams?

    3. Is doing quad channel ram worth performance boost I am going to get?
  4. The extra cores will really help in intense editing and modeling, which you are probably doing since you're at the school of architecture.
    Not sure on ram questions~ Not an expert on those and don't want to give false info.
  5. Yero said:
    Thanks for your quick replies! I got three questions now:

    1. How much would Intel Core i7-3770K vs Intel Core i7-3930K be a difference and is that difference worth the money?

    2. Also would I be able to set up a quad channel ram with any of those motherboards and rams?

    3. Is doing quad channel ram worth performance boost I am going to get?


    The reason why i didn't recommend a socket 2011 processor is because the motherboards prices are usually higher than the average + the fact that socket 2011 processors are a little pricey. In intense rendering, yes you should see a difference but i don't think it's a difference worth 200$ ...

    From what i've heard, quad channel doesn't do a lot of difference vs dual channel. Keep in mind that quad channel is only on socket 2011 boards and they are more expensive. Ram speed is a good factor but i don't think it's going to affect your rendering so much. It's all about the cpu and the gpu.


    - The Brownie
  6. realchaos said:
    I am keeping this build for a 3-4 years for sure so I decided to go with LGA 2011 socket and the processor. Can you take a look at the current 1st post in this topic and help me figure out the motherboard and memory? Reason why I am saying is because I changed my mind on these two parts. Would you or someone else be able to look at the description of what i need as far as features and price?
  7. There is a wide difference between a gaming PC and a PC used for Architectutre programs like Autocad, an i7 with 16gb of ram would best suit for your school work but an i5 with 8gb of ram would best suit for PC gaming, you really won't get the best of both worlds with either one.

    Architectural programs rely heavily on the cpu and ram and virtual memory whereas PC gaming relies heavily on the GPU, ram, and not so much on the cpu.

    You might have to consider less intensive games that can be played on an i7 motherboard so that it does not impoact on your studies. It is better to be employed in a high income position and play low impact simple Pc games than being able to play high FPS PC games and being on government welfare!
  8. TenPc said:
    There is a wide difference between a gaming PC and a PC used for Architectutre programs like Autocad, an i7 with 16gb of ram would best suit for your school work but an i5 with 8gb of ram would best suit for PC gaming, you really won't get the best of both worlds with either one.

    Architectural programs rely heavily on the cpu and ram and virtual memory whereas PC gaming relies heavily on the GPU, ram, and not so much on the cpu.

    You might have to consider less intensive games that can be played on an i7 motherboard so that it does not impoact on your studies. It is better to be employed in a high income position and play low impact simple Pc games than being able to play high FPS PC games and being on government welfare!
    I was playing Skyrim on this current 4 (-5?) year old build. So I don't see how I won't be able to if I build a editing pc and takeover my current video card for now. Come back in a year with a Good video card and that one step makes my editing pc an even more editing (if it has cuda) and legit gaming pc =)
  9. I would suggest the ASRock x79 Extreme6: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-x79extreme6
    It's a relatively cheap board for LGA2011, overclocks well, supports raid and has lots of memory slots so you can upgrade later on.
    For ram, here's two option I would suggest: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-memory-cml16gx3m4a1600c9
    It's a cheap 4x4gb ram set and matches your motherboard.
  10. What do you people think about this motherboard?
    BIOSTAR TPOWER X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS

    If it fits all of my parts I would get it. Looks cool, doesn't have wi-fi, but has audio enchacements and stuff. I really like it. Does it fit with this RAM and the rest of the parts?
    Corsair Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
  11. The video card you chose in the original post is only PCI Express 2.0 (x16), if the motherboard is PCIE 3.0, then that would impact on the performance of the video card, even a slight decrease would (might) cause delays or unexpected pauses or freezing that would be annoying. Everybody seems to think that backward compatibility is accepted but it would be better not to have any backward compatibility issues arising from such things.

    I'm not sure that 8gb ram is a good thing, most motherboards prefer ram to be in modules of 4gb. If the motherboard you finally select is triple channel then you would need a kit of 3 ram modules. Yes, everybody also says that you can use a pair of ram in triple channel slots but that also goes back to "compatibility" that, in my opinion, is just asking for problems later on.

    You should also consider your software and whether it would also have compatibility issues with your selected OS. There is nothing worse than delays, pauses, and minor frezzing due to compatbility issues, especially after spending 6 hours designing something (and you forgot to save your project!).
  12. That board only has 4rams lots, so you will be limited on your 16gb of ram. If you'll ever need more ram, you have throw away your 16gb set and buy another 32gb. Other than that, it's a decent board if you like the looks and feel that you won't need more than 16gb of ram. Biostar isn't the best brand for boards but it certainly isn't a bad one.
    You can find a bit cheaper ram like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233197 that will work just the same, but that's just nitpicking. Since you're getting the H100i, the large heatspreaders isn't an issue.
  13. realchaos said:
    That board only has 4rams lots, so you will be limited on your 16gb of ram. If you'll ever need more ram, you have throw away your 16gb set and buy another 32gb. Other than that, it's a decent board if you like the looks and feel that you won't need more than 16gb of ram. Biostar isn't the best brand for boards but it certainly isn't a bad one.
    You can find a bit cheaper ram like this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233197 that will work just the same, but that's just nitpicking. Since you're getting the H100i, the large heatspreaders isn't an issue.

    Wouldn't this RAM be faster then that? 1866
    CORSAIR Vengeance LP 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1866 Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M4A1866C9B
    and would I be able to overclock this RAM or the one you linked to with this mother board?
    BIOSTAR TPOWER X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
  14. Both motherboards can oc the ram.
    Yes 1866 ram is faster, but the difference is negligible. Also, it seems that people weren't able to get the ram you just listed at 1600 or 1866 (reviews aren't the best way to decide whether to buy or not but it's a good start)
  15. realchaos said:
    Both motherboards can oc the ram.
    Yes 1866 ram is faster, but the difference is negligible. Also, it seems that people weren't able to get the ram you just listed at 1600 or 1866 (reviews aren't the best way to decide whether to buy or not but it's a good start)

    Thanks!
    I did a little more research this could possibly be my last question. What do you think about this cas7 memory?
    CORSAIR Vengeance 16GB (4 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CML16GX3M4X1600C7

    I kind of like everything, the only thing that bothers me is in details it says this:
    "16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 for AMD, Intel Dual processors"

    So three questions:
    1. Is there anything negative for this build in that comment above?
    2. Does this memory fit in the following configuration?
    http://pcpartpicker.com/b/BtT
    3. Does RAM voltage matter when choosing memory?
  16. It will work for your build though the ram is expensive. If you want to save money, just grab a CAS9 ram. Since you'll be overclocking, you could get it to CAS7 by yourself.
    For ram voltage, Intel doesn't recommend anything over 1.5v as it may cause damage. Of course lots of people are able to do 1.65v without problems, but you probably shouldn't do anything above 1.65v.
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