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PCGamer357

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Ok... Hi! Im new here and i would like some help as i am building a gaming pc...

Right now my rig includes...

Processor: Intel Core i5 3570K ($236)
GPU: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti Power Edition OC 2GB ($329)
PSU: Thermaltake Litepower 600W ($65)
Cooler: Xigmatek SM128164 Colosseum CPU Cooler ($55)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 ($72)
HDD: Toshiba DT01ACA200 2TB 7200RPM ($95)
Case: CoolerMaster Elite 430 Black ($49)
MoBo: ECS Z77H2-A2X Deluxe Motherboard ($99)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 24x SATA DVD-RW Drive OEM ($25)
Total Price: $1,025

Sooo......
Am i missing on any parts and is there any way at all to making this lighter on the pockets but not lose too much quality?

My rig might be unusual as it is my first time and any help would be appreciated to help further my knowledge in systems. :D

Also the prices and products are all from pccasegear.com and i live in australia...
G'day mate!
 
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($179.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Zalman CNPS5X Performa CPU Cooler ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: MSI B75MA-E33 Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($56.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Patriot Gamer 2 Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($47.98 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card ($363.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Rosewill Challenger-U3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.06 @ NCIX US)
Case Fan: Cooler Master R4-L2R-20AC-GP 69.0 CFM 120mm Fan ($5.06 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $874.96
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-16 07:16 EDT-0400)

Don't use an ECS board their junk. I just posted this on another thread, personally I would rather go with this over your current build as the GPU will be the bigger limiting factor between the CPU/GPU. I may use a cheaper cpu heatsink but its mainly just to provide airflow and since it cools better than stock. Though if funds allow op for the 3570.

The changes I would make if I were you would be to swap to a 2tb drive and maybe spend another $10-20 for a atx mobo if you want the extra room for expansion in this build. As I said this was for someone else where the goal was to cram as much into potential into the build. And if you want to cut the price down drop down more drop down to an 7950.

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Just read the australia part, I just leave this here still. Hopefully it give you some ideas. The prices you are working with look pretty similar to what we have in the US for the parts I am familiar with.
 
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just a question assassin...
so if we did a comparison between the build you recommended and my build... which parts are better than mine and which parts mine are better?
 
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hyper 212+ cpu cooler I'd bet it's performance will be similar $30 or go with the evo for $6 more, as someone stated above:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

I'd rather have a corsair than a thermaltake PSU $65, non modular though:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139028

use the money you saved on the cpu cooler for a better motherboard $125:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130645

didn't make it any cheaper but you'd get more out of your processor when overclocking.
also, save yourself some cash and go with the regular 660 ti than buying an OC version. OC it yourself if you want.


 
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Your CPU is better but my GPU is better. I would expect that I be getting better FPS in games than in vast majority of cases though due to the better GPU as I doubt my CPU would hold it back much, if at all (there is always a bottleneck somewhere CPU/GPU/etc you can never eliminate all bottlenecks).

You also couldn't pay me to use an ECS board those things are very low quality last I checked. That was pretty much the big points in what I was referring to. Ram doesn't play a big part in gaming performance so I don't bother comparing that as long as dual channel, equal capacity, and good quality in general I'm good.

Though if you can afford it drop in the 3570 (non K im referring to so you don't feel bad using a cheaper mobo) if you can. As nice as the K processors and overclocking them are the GPU is still our biggest bottleneck generally so invest in that.

If you want bang for the buck CPU and willing to OC do an AMD build with I would recommend a FX 6300 if your pricing is pretty similar to ours it be a nice middle ground for the AMD processors.

 
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I'd rather you spend even more on the motherboard since you're not really doing the 3770k any justice putting it in a sub $150 board, but if you really insist, I'd take the msi one over the asus, just for the VRM cooling.

+1 to assasin's post above, if you're building a gaming rig on a budget, plop a big wad of cash the highest tier of video card you can buy and settle on a decent enough CPU.
 
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ok... i took in both ur advices and came with this...

Processor: Intel Core i5 3470 ($193)
GPU: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 670 WF2 2GB ($399)
PSU: Corsair CX-500 V3 Power Supply ($75)
Storage: Western Digital WD Blue 1TB WD10EZEX ($69)
Cooling: CoolerMaster Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler ($35)
Motherboard: ASUS P8Z77-M PRO Motherboard ($129)
The Rest: Pretty much the same ($146)
Total: $1046 (Difference of +$46)

I included your parts and got the closest thing but the prices in Australia are higher then in the US (that is where ur from right?) and got a higher price than when it started.

But will these changes make my build perform better?

And the 120mm fans are $15 each, same model
 
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get a good brand 600W psu if you can (corsair, seasonic, among others) , then I'd say you're pretty much good to go overclocking with your gtx670 and 3470.

as a side note, intel wont be releasing any more CPU for the 1155 socket so I'd say it's an awkward time to buy a new rig now. If you can, hold off and wait for the new haswell chips coming in a couple of months.

EDIT: I guess 500W would be good enough for your build since 600 series cards consume much less power as compared to the last generation.
 
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