GTX TITAN & Batman Arkham City performance issues

martijn397 · Apr 16, 2013

Hi All,

i have seen this issue numerous times and have not found any solution.

issue:
The performance of Batman Arkham city in DX11 have been dreadfull to say the least.
When i benchmark ingame i get these results:

minimum fps: 2
max fps: 40

My system:

Motherboard:
Asus Sabertooth X58

Processor:
Intel Core i7 950 @ stock 3,07Ghz

Internal memory:
12GB DDR3 tripple channel ram

Graphic:
Asus Geforce GTX Titan

Sound:
Asus Xonar Essence STX

I know there are many people with the same problem..... when i see benchmarks online i see results like max fps 100+.
Does anyone know whats going on and/or knows a solution?

Kind regards,
Martijn

Games master · Apr 16, 2013

I think your cpu bottlenecks your gpu and your motherboard is not good for your gpu so you can change your motherboard to a z77 and buy a more powerful cpu to see the maximum power of your gtx titan

spentshells · Apr 16, 2013

Games master :

Not this at all.

Sorry I do not have advice but I can assure you this isn't it at all.

martijn397 · Apr 16, 2013

Games master :

Thanks for the tip Games master, actually i was thinking about doing an upgrade and/or overclocking my CPU.
Whats keeping me from doing it is that ive seen many benchmarks about CPU's and all i can see are just a few more FPS in many of todays games so it didnt really justify an upgrade for me.

What are your thoughts?

btw, thanks for the help.

martijn397 · Apr 16, 2013

spentshells :

Thanks, according to many benchmarks i didnt see a difference also with CPU performance but still i wonder why some people with 670 and/or 680's do get a good FPS in DX11 allthough many experience the same problems.

ubercake · Apr 16, 2013

Games master :

The CPU doesn't bottleneck the GPU that much at all as exhibited in this article (look at the bottom of the page it's explained):
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/geforce_gtx_titan_review,13.html

It might be the drivers just aren't there yet. Are you using the same drivers they used in the reviews you saw? Or something released thereafter?

fkr · Apr 16, 2013

http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1509605&mpage=1

martijn397 · Apr 16, 2013

ubercake :

At the moment im using the latest drivers (314.22) which are also used in most benchmarks sinds the Titan sort of "recently" came out.

martijn397 · Apr 16, 2013

fkr :

Thanks for the possible solution fkr!
I'll try it as soon as i get home (1 hour) and let you guys know!

Games master · Apr 16, 2013

So I think you should change your motherboard because it supports pci-e 2 and your gpu is pci-e 3

fkr · Apr 16, 2013

At higher framerates, a ton of information is passed through the PCI-E interface as the GPU calls on the processor to fetch more frames. This potentially causes a lower bandwidth PCI-E bus to become saturated. At higher resolutions and image quality settings the GPU becomes the bottleneck so it calls for less frames from the CPU, leading to the PCI-E interface being less of a determining factor in overall performance.

http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/53901-nvidia-geforce-gtx-690-review-25.html

a gtx 690 will not bottleneck a pci-e 2 interface. skyrim will if you run it at 200 fps but even then it is only minor and does not matter since it is over 60 fps. According to the article this saturation of the pci-e interface happens because the cpu processes large graphics batch files and those files fill the pci-e lane. I guess that even if the resolution is twice as high it is still not as demanding as pushing triple the fps at a lower resolution, it is always more difficult to process data than it is to transport it.

spentshells · Apr 16, 2013

Games master :

Also wrong as the bandwidth provided by PCIE 2 is more than enough for a gtx 590 which is about as powerful as the titan

GM you are giving poor advice.

Games master · Apr 16, 2013

spentshells :

So fuck me

martijn397 · Apr 16, 2013

Thanks for all your reply's buds!

I think the PCI-e 2.0 vs 3.0 did kind justify an upgrade for me allthough im not expecting to solve any issues and/or make a huge difference when i see those benchmarks.

Maybe it will solve my Batman issue if its something else in my setup thats causing this.

Many thanks for your great reply's!

I will do a post about some advice on my upgrade needs sinds else this topic gets a little bit off-topic

Again, many thanks!

the great randini · Apr 16, 2013

What power supply do you have an how old is it?

spentshells · Apr 16, 2013

Games master :

spentshells :

So fuck me

totally

martijn397 · Apr 16, 2013

martijn397 :

Its a Corsair AX850, do you think this might be the problem?

spentshells · Apr 16, 2013

martijn397 :

no that is plenty of power for that card.

the great randini · Apr 16, 2013

nope that is more than good, I would have to assume than that the bottleneck is the hdd.

ubercake · Apr 16, 2013

spentshells :

This is true. 16 lanes of PCIe 2.0 have the same bandwidth as 8 lanes of PCIe3.

The CPU, not the PCIe bus is barely a bottleneck on the poster's system and primarily at lower resolutions. The PCIe bus on his system is not a bottleneck with any current gen card.

spentshells · Apr 16, 2013

Uninstall drivers
confirm no other graphics drivers are installed
reboot
reinstall drivers
make sure the power connectors are not loose
try another pcie connector on the PSU
try the card in another system

fkr · Apr 16, 2013

I think it is just a buggy game in dx11. I would only do the drivers and swap cards in a worst case scenario.

martijn397 · Apr 16, 2013

All other games like Crysis 3 and such are running just as benchmarked on other systems so i was thinking more like a game related issue.
Im also running on a Revodrive X2, maybe there are some driver issues with this sinds its not exactly "your standard HDD/SSD".

Im now gonna try this solution in mentioned on another forum:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1509605&mpage=1

Ill post back

martijn397 · Apr 16, 2013

So i've just tried this solution:
http://www.evga.com/forums/tm.aspx?m=1509605&mpage=1

and it works like a charm! i suppose its a game bug after all

Thanks goodness!

I am still convinced i need to upgrade more in my system though so i will be asking for advice this week probably!

Many thanks for the help guys!
You are fantastic!

Kind regards,
Martijn

fkr · Apr 17, 2013

good to see everything is working.

also if you want to see if your cpu is a bottleneck then start overclocking it. if you overclock and do not get more fps then your cpu is not a bottleneck.

http://static.techspot.com/articles-info/458/bench/CPU_02.png

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