Laptop freezes randomly - help appreciated

bsa492

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I have an HP Compaq NC6400 business laptop (Intel CPU - T2400... 1.83 GHz) that runs for a little while, then freezes. Display is still on and showing what it was at the time of the freeze, but cannot do anything with it except hold the power button to turn it off.

I'm running Win XP SP3, but it also freezes running memtest from a USB (UBCD4WIN USB).

It is not overheating, which was the first thing I looked at. I have blown out the CPU cooling fan and heat sink.

Had recently (6 weeks ago) replaced memory, increasing physical mem to 3 GB. Have restored memory to old config of 1.5 GB. Have tried several configurations with no perceivable change. Currently have a single 2GB SODIMM installed in bay under keyboard (externally accessible bay empty).

In running memtest MANY times over the past week+, only once did it call out an error on pass 5, otherwise it's been happy with the memory until it froze on passes up to 9.

Have run several disk-checking programs. On one execution, one of those declared a read-error on HDD, but other executions and other software (including SMART) show no issues. To eliminate the HDD, it is now out of the system and sitting on the desk.

Other posts have suggested the power jack or power supply. I've switched power supplies, run it on battery, run with just the power supply and no battery, "wiggled" the power cord at the connection, removed the power cord after the freeze, added the power cord after the freeze... no change in behavior.

I DID have a battery go bad in this laptop a week ago. It is SO dead that none of my laptops will recognize that it is installed. I've tried it in 3 different NC6400's.

While writing this, I had the system on the BIOS System Information screen... and it froze up there.

I know that the older sister to the NC6400 (the HP NC6000) has an issue with freezing when the the solder joints on MAX1987 power chip crack. Does anyone know if this laptop has a similar issue?

I have not lost any setting in ROM, so I have not suspected the CMOS battery... should I?

Other suggestions?

Thanks,
Dan
 

royalcrown

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How old is this laptop ? It might be that it IS overheating. Thermal interface material tends to wear out, even the gray OEM stuff after a few years. download something like real temp and see what temps you get roughly, then you can also see if there is a correlation between temps and freezing or rule it out.

When I blew out my stepsons laptop there was still a big carpet fuzz afro in between 2 blades even though it appeared clean. I never saw it until i removed the fans (reapplying thermal compound because fan was reving really high)
 

bsa492

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Good point, royalcrown. I've visually inspected both sides of the heat sink fins and with a light source through the fins... no apparent blanket; in fact nice and clean.

Age of the laptop: I don't have a specific date, but I assume it's about 6-7 years old. I've seen dates in 2006 on the BIOS screens. I'm not absolutely sure, but I think I reseated the heat sink on this laptop about 2 yrs ago. I have had freezing problems with it before, but I failed to document what I did last time to cure the problem.

Thanks for the tip on RealTemp... I have not seen this piece of software before. Since this laptop freezes when it's not being used, I'm going to leave the realtemp window open and see what it says when the laptop freezes. So far, it's showing about 46-47 C, with a max of 58 C. I'll post an update when I have something to share.

Thanks much!!
 

bsa492

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Update: it ran for about an hour on UBCD4WIN before freezing. Temps in the window left behind showed high of 58 C, current temp of 46 C, only showing one processor core.

Reinstalled HDD and booted from it. Running RealTemp now shows both CPU cores. Max reached is 58 C and 63 C; Current is 51 C and 59 C. By comparison, my "other" NC6400 is currently running Vista Business and shows temps of 82 C and 81 C, both maxing out at 100 C, minimums show 79 C and 77 C. I guess I should attend to those, but that system is working, while THIS one is not reliable.

Thoughts?

Thanks,
Dan