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April 17, 2013 9:56:42 AM

hello, im planing to upgrade my desktop, but, since its a slim BTX formfactor, im looking around for motherboards and cpu's, But, i've gotten stuck on these:

http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_3220_B75MCSM
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http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX35892

which one is better?

EDIT: of course, which one would be a bottle neck, if any, with Geforce GT 640, or a GTX 650ti

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April 17, 2013 10:07:48 AM

Out of those two, you're definitely going to want to go with the Intel chip.
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April 17, 2013 10:11:49 AM

JD88 said:
Out of those two, you're definitely going to want to go with the Intel chip.


Meh, i guess i will try to pull some money for a i5... around 360$ with motherboard, thanks for the help.

Why not the amd chip? it has a bigger cache and 6 cores?
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April 17, 2013 10:19:10 AM

If you'll look at this recent comparison done by Toms, you'll see that the i3 performs significantly better on average than the 6100 in gaming.

The Bulldozer chips just struggle in gaming because their cores are really weak.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-fr...

The Intel chip will not bottleneck either of those graphics cards. I strongly suggest getting the 650ti over the 640 though.
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April 17, 2013 10:24:44 AM

JD88 said:
If you'll look at this recent comparison done by Toms, you'll see that the i3 performs significantly better on average than the 6100 in gaming.

The Bulldozer chips just struggle in gaming because their cores are really weak.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-fr...

The Intel chip will not bottleneck either of those graphics cards. I strongly suggest getting the 650ti over the 640 though.


Would this i3 be faster then my current 1st gen i5 660?
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April 17, 2013 10:28:57 AM

If that is what you have now, wait till Haswell in June.
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April 17, 2013 10:29:20 AM

Xyloriuphon said:
JD88 said:
If you'll look at this recent comparison done by Toms, you'll see that the i3 performs significantly better on average than the 6100 in gaming.

The Bulldozer chips just struggle in gaming because their cores are really weak.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-fr...

The Intel chip will not bottleneck either of those graphics cards. I strongly suggest getting the 650ti over the 640 though.


Would this i3 be faster then my current 1st gen i5 660?


Not by a whole lot. Especially if you have overclocked it at all. Your i5 won't bottleneck a 650ti either. Not worth an upgrade IMO.

I would suggest spending like $30 on an aftermarket cooler and overclocking it as much as possible. the i5 660 is still a viable chip.
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April 17, 2013 10:33:20 AM

Yes, but the problem is, i cant fit anything better then a 620 gt LP, just beacuse its a BTX slim desktop, that is why im wanting to buy a ATX motherboard, with a full size case, so i can fit a 650ti, unless, i could just find a motherboard for 1156 slots...
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April 17, 2013 10:36:36 AM

Xyloriuphon said:
Yes, but the problem is, i cant fit anything better then a 620 gt LP, just beacuse its a BTX slim desktop, that is why im wanting to buy a ATX motherboard, with a full size case, so i can fit a 650ti, unless, i could just find a motherboard for 1156 slots...



There is a 7750 that will fit in that case.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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April 17, 2013 10:37:25 AM

logainofhades said:
Xyloriuphon said:
Yes, but the problem is, i cant fit anything better then a 620 gt LP, just beacuse its a BTX slim desktop, that is why im wanting to buy a ATX motherboard, with a full size case, so i can fit a 650ti, unless, i could just find a motherboard for 1156 slots...



There is a 7750 that will fit in that case.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Plus i got a specially made 240w PSU, it probably wont run that...
EDIT: system is a hp compaq 8100 elite sff
EDIT2: oh, i might just make it, is it worth it?

Minimum PSU Wattage: 192 W
Recommended PSU Wattage: 242w
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April 18, 2013 7:55:23 AM

JD88 said:
What about something like this?

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Intel-DP55SB-microATX-LGA1156-DD...



That actually might work, since i have DDR3 1333mhz ripgaw ram, 1st gen intel i5 660, it should work, Thanks!

EDIT: first problem, there isnt pci-E 3.0, or is there, so, that would mean i couldn't use a 650ti?
EDIT2; WOuldn't the performance be different? or less? since, the board is different, but the CPU is still the same? Since, wouldn't the cpu be specially made for the board HP made? or, am i just thinking differently?
EDIT3: I read on newegg with the same board, and people say they have been having problems with the bios and things, even a long boot time, sometimes it wouldn't boot past post, is this any concern?
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April 18, 2013 12:24:42 PM

1. No, pci-E 3.0 isn't necessary and not having it will not be a problem for the 650ti.

2. The performance won't be any different. In fact, the stock board probably wouldn't allow for any overclocking which this one will. With a modest overclock that CPU will be quite a bit faster.

3. As a rule, people leave negative reviews a lot more often than positive. You're basically taking a chance with any board having problems.
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April 18, 2013 12:55:29 PM

JD88 said:
1. No, pci-E 3.0 isn't necessary and not having it will not be a problem for the 650ti.

2. The performance won't be any different. In fact, the stock board probably wouldn't allow for any overclocking which this one will. With a modest overclock that CPU will be quite a bit faster.

3. As a rule, people leave negative reviews a lot more often than positive. You're basically taking a chance with any board having problems.


Ah, thanks, i was thinking that the performance would be different, since the board is made differently, and since PCI-E is compatiable with all PCI-E slots, it should be fine, although wouldn't the performance be slower? since bandwith or whatever would be less? Anyways, thanks, should've made this post a "discussion" instead of a "question"
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April 18, 2013 1:01:15 PM

One more question, which one should i get, the intel DP55WS? or the intel DP55WB?
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April 18, 2013 1:03:45 PM

No, performance won't be any less because the 650ti isn't powerful enough to saturate the PCI-E 2.0 slot much less 3.0. I'm not aware of any modern card that can at this point in time.

I would get whatever the cheapest NEW 1156 P55 board is as long as it will fit in your case (mATX?)
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April 18, 2013 1:10:11 PM

JD88 said:
No, performance won't be any less because the 650ti isn't powerful enough to saturate the PCI-E 2.0 slot much less 3.0. I'm not aware of any modern card that can at this point in time.

I would get whatever the cheapest NEW 1156 P55 board is as long as it will fit in your case (mATX?)


Planning to buy a new case, so that shouldn't be a problem.
So, basically, either one will do?

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April 18, 2013 1:14:37 PM

Yeah I'm having a hard time finding any major differences or even much info at all on the WS. The WB looks fine though.
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April 18, 2013 1:38:55 PM

JD88 said:
Yeah I'm having a hard time finding any major differences or even much info at all on the WS. The WB looks fine though.


sorry, it might've been the SB.... anyways, thanks

EDIT: Sorry, more questions, i found a motherboard that is cheaper, (since i live in canada) and, was wondering if it was a decent branded motherboard...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Or, if there are any, under 70$ that you can find, please point me to it.
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April 18, 2013 5:12:39 PM

Xyloriuphon said:
JD88 said:
Yeah I'm having a hard time finding any major differences or even much info at all on the WS. The WB looks fine though.


sorry, it might've been the SB.... anyways, thanks

EDIT: Sorry, more questions, i found a motherboard that is cheaper, (since i live in canada) and, was wondering if it was a decent branded motherboard...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Or, if there are any, under 70$ that you can find, please point me to it.


I really have no knowledge of Foxconn motherboards, but it's hard to argue with the price given the options that are currently available to you. Plus, it's Newegg so you have some protection there.
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April 19, 2013 7:04:07 AM

JD88 said:
Xyloriuphon said:
JD88 said:
Yeah I'm having a hard time finding any major differences or even much info at all on the WS. The WB looks fine though.


sorry, it might've been the SB.... anyways, thanks

EDIT: Sorry, more questions, i found a motherboard that is cheaper, (since i live in canada) and, was wondering if it was a decent branded motherboard...

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Or, if there are any, under 70$ that you can find, please point me to it.


I really have no knowledge of Foxconn motherboards, but it's hard to argue with the price given the options that are currently available to you. Plus, it's Newegg so you have some protection there.


Meh, so i will look up some more info on foxconn motherboards, thanks...
EDIT: I've looked at some reviews on the P55A-S, which is a smaller version, and 1 person said it fried in a month, now, if this was to happen, would the whole system come with it?

Some people also say its incompatible with windows7 64, although some others say its fine...

Also, some people say its incompatible with certain PSU, how?

I will probably take a crack at it, unless theres a risk of my system blowing up.
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April 19, 2013 7:19:00 AM

The vast majority of the times when people say something has been "fried" it usually just means it stopped working, not literally got hot or burned up. Not something that would take your entire system with it.

As for PSUs, some motherboards are just really finicky about the power they get. Usually good quality supplies work best because the power is even and constant.
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April 19, 2013 7:23:19 AM

JD88 said:
The vast majority of the times when people say something has been "fried" it usually just means it stopped working, not literally got hot or burned up. Not something that would take your entire system with it.

As for PSUs, some motherboards are just really finicky about the power they get. Usually good quality supplies work best because the power is even and constant.


Okay, thanks, i will take a crack at it, IT ACTUALLY FITS IN MY 160$ budget... LOL, heres the case+PSU im planning to get, the PSU has good reviews, the case has reviews that doesnt bother me..

Tell me if its a good quality PSU
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/BDL_ONE_VP450
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April 19, 2013 7:26:09 AM

Antec is a pretty good brand, but that is their lowest end model. Without having the manufacturer list in front of me, I can't be sure. My guess is that's it should be fine as I've had great luck with all Antec products and currently use one of their PSUs. Hard to beat that price.
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April 19, 2013 7:27:26 AM

JD88 said:
Antec is a pretty good brand, but that is their lowest end model. Without having the manufacturer list in front of me, I can't be sure. My guess is that's it should be fine as I had great luck with all Antec products. Hard to beat that price.



Yeah, another problem, people say the ethernet is a bugger to get, should i just buy a PCI ethernet card? or just take a chance, and, does newegg's warrenty take parts that have been used? if its in the 14 days?
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April 19, 2013 7:30:26 AM

I would take a chance and only order it if you need to. Yeah, Newegg will take it back even if you've used it a little as long as it's within in the return period. Their customer service is great which is why I always only include them in my suggested builds here even though they aren't always the exact cheapest.
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April 19, 2013 7:32:45 AM

JD88 said:
I would take a chance and only order it if you need to. Yeah, Newegg will take it back even if you've used it a little as long as it's within in the return period. Their customer service is great which is why I always only include them in my suggested builds here even though they aren't always the exact cheapest.


Lol, yeah, i will take a chance, since, i think, the PSU has the right connectors, although the mobo says it needs
1xATX 24pin connector,

psu says it has
1x24pin connector

This should work.. Thanks for the help,
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April 19, 2013 7:44:39 AM

No problem. Good luck and let me know how it turns out.
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April 20, 2013 12:36:30 AM

JD88 said:
No problem. Good luck and let me know how it turns out.


One more question, should be the last for a while, people say they cant get much of an overclock out of it, would that mean everything like the cpu, ram, chipset, etc? or, everything but the graphics card? since i've got a oc'ed GT 620....
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April 20, 2013 7:45:43 PM

Honestly, the more I think about this, the more it might not be worth it. You are looking to dump around $90 into a Mobo and cooler which could be put towards the $220 for the i3 build. Something I didn't realize at first is that the i5 660 is actually a dual core with hyper threading and not a quad core so there isn't as much performance there to be had as I originally thought.

I think grabbing the 1156 mobo and overclocking might get you another year out of your system and wouldn't bottleneck the 650ti too badly, but at the same time that is money that could be put towards an upgrade that would last several years. It's a really tough decision that I think depends on how much you are willing to spend.

Out of curiosity, what games are you looking to play with this build?
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April 22, 2013 8:54:33 AM

JD88 said:
Honestly, the more I think about this, the more it might not be worth it. You are looking to dump around $90 into a Mobo and cooler which could be put towards the $220 for the i3 build. Something I didn't realize at first is that the i5 660 is actually a dual core with hyper threading and not a quad core so there isn't as much performance there to be had as I originally thought.

I think grabbing the 1156 mobo and overclocking might get you another year out of your system and wouldn't bottleneck the 650ti too badly, but at the same time that is money that could be put towards an upgrade that would last several years. It's a really tough decision that I think depends on how much you are willing to spend.

Out of curiosity, what games are you looking to play with this build?


well, I'm not going to be getting the stuff in a while, due to reasons, but, games im playing somewhat fine are:
NFS Shift2
Planetside 2 (low settings)
Minecraft (mindcrack, Tekkit) (Maxed, Render distance: normal +16
Gt-Legends (2005 Sim) (maxed)
GTA-IV(Textures: HIGH, anistropic, x8, medium shadows, some type of mod...)

EDIT: But, i dont know if the i3 would be worth it, since its a dual core with hyper, so, maybe i should just wait until june for hasewell and get an i5? Or should i save for an i5 now?

By the way, since of reasons, the system wont be getting an upgrade for a while, maybe 1-2 years... So... If thats any better....

AND, the reason why this is, happened, 2 days ago, so, its something i could'nt tell you... Sorry about that...
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