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Ok guys, for a few days/weeks I been reading and learning from you guys alot I mean alot and I do thank you for that.

Now It is the time for me to buy me a SSD or HDD. I did a little research and I heard SDD is much faster and is like the new thing. But they said is a lil bit more expensive than HDD. I will put the parts I have ordered and some I already recieved.

Motherboard: RAMPAGE IV EXTREME
Graphic Card: (1) GTX680-DC2-4GD5 - will add another in a few months.
CPU intel : i7-3930K
PSU : SeaSonic X Series X-850
Case : Rosewill THOR V2 (Black)
Memory Ram : Kingston HyperX Beast 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) *I bought Two sets of these to have a total of 16 gigs of ram*
CPU Cooler : Noctua NH-D14 120mm & 140mm SSO CPU Cooler

So i think all I need is an SSD or HDD and also an optical drive.

So please help me decide for my last parts. =)

Thanks a million for those who have helped me and share the knowledge, now I am not much of a noob any more. =)

PS- If there is something else I need besides the SSD or HDD and also the optical drive please let me know. Also how many gigs for the SSD and HDD do i need? I do alot of gaming with live streaming and medium editing. I do have an external hardrive already of 2 TB tho. =)

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It's really about what's important to you. RE what to put on SSD, definitely put OS and standard programs on. But games? Bear in mind that an SSD only helps game during initial launch and level load times. You have to ask yourself how important that is to you? I installed LoL on my SSD cause I play it all the time. I load like lightening but the game doesn't start until all ten players have loaded so I didn't actually gain anything. Other games which load often may really improve the experience with an SSD.
Symbolic links can also be useful. You can install all your games on your HDD, but when you're playing a particular game often, move it to your SSD and put a symlink in place. When you're done with that game, delete the symlink, move...
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Looks like you're going all-out on a serious rig there!? To not put an SSD in there would be criminal IMHO. It won't make any difference to games, but if you went standard HDD only, you'd find a budget ultra-book would boot quicker and feel more responsive launching program's, installing updates, etc. Your best bet is a good sized SSD for your OS and key programs/games, and whatever size mechanical HDD you need for everything else. I'd recommend:
- 256GB Samsung 840 Pro (stick to 128Gb If you want to save a few $$s)
- 1-3TB (whatever you need) 7200RPM HDD, like a WD Blue.
 
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Thank you for your fast reply, buy what I am looking is what people are using and recomend as far as memory space, boot up speeds, etc, etc. that' why I described my whole setup for my Rig.

If you could be more specific as what brand you recomend, memory space, if SSD or HDD OR both?

I need a more detailed answer, but thanksagain for your fast reply Rune! =)

 
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I missed your question about size...
Does the 2TB drive handle all your streaming & editing needs?
If so, just get the HDD large enough for programs, games, docs, music and video libraries. Everyone's needs vary massively here, so it's a bit hard to answer for someone else. 2TB is a good price/capacity at the moment. If you need that much.
 
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If you don't need the portability, you could just take the external enclosure apart and put the drive in your new build. If it's a USB2 enclosure, it'll run much quicker internally too.
 
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Hahaha indeed, actually my external drive is broken I will get it replaced in a few dayz. and thanks =)
 
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I will give the Noctua a try (already ordered. i will be doing some OC but mild. once I want to do more I will go with some good liquid cooling.. I already passed my budget, i told my wife that my spending limit was going to be$1,800.. i am around $2,400 already.. lol... of course she doesnt know yet.
 
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What monitor did you pick?
 
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I have one already but if I go wit hone will be a professional gaming Monitor. like I said don't tell my wife lol =)

 
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So HDD what brand? Samsung?
 
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Ok guys was busy at work these last few days and tomorrow I will be buying both an SSD and HHD. But here are a couple of questions i have after reading some answers from you guys.

What should I saved in the SSD?
Also what should I saved in the HDD?

Some people say SSD: OS and key programs/games

But others say my games in the HDD.

I am asking these questions because like I said I do have a 2TB external hardware borken at the moment but still under warrranty. So I don't know to go with a big SSD and a big HDD. I Don't mind 2 TB on he HDD but since the SSD is more expensive I want to make sure I don't spend extra on the SSD if I will just be putting like OS and key programs/games.

Thanks again,
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It's really about what's important to you. RE what to put on SSD, definitely put OS and standard programs on. But games? Bear in mind that an SSD only helps game during initial launch and level load times. You have to ask yourself how important that is to you? I installed LoL on my SSD cause I play it all the time. I load like lightening but the game doesn't start until all ten players have loaded so I didn't actually gain anything. Other games which load often may really improve the experience with an SSD.
Symbolic links can also be useful. You can install all your games on your HDD, but when you're playing a particular game often, move it to your SSD and put a symlink in place. When you're done with that game, delete the symlink, move the game back to your HDD and move your new favourite over to the SSD. It takes a little but of effort (and care to get your link names 100% correct), but allows you to get away with a smaller SSD.
If you really only want a couple of games on your SSD or are prepared to stuff around with Symlinks, you can grab a 120-128GB SSD no worries. If you want to install a decent number of games, but don't have a massive game library or are happy to pick and choose which to put on the SSD, grab a 250. If money isn't a big object and you want your whole games library on your SSD (assuming it's not huuuge), go 500+.
Just make sure you always keen 20% or more free space. SSD don't cope well when they're nearly full.
I stand by my recommendations above. 256GB Samsung 840 Pro. Get the 250GB Samsung 840 (non-pro) if you want to sacrifice a little performance but keep capacity. Go to 128GB 840Pro if you're happy with the smaller drive. (Don't go the 120GB non-pro Samsung, it takes a big performance hit - the 250 is okay though).
Hope my rambling thoughts are helpful in some way.
 
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--- Ok I think I will go with the 256GB Samsung 840 Pro. I will be putting OS, games, is it fine if I add like Cinema 4d, photoshop and a few others? and just keep the HDD for like pictures, recorded gameplay to later edit and upload them to my youtube channel?

A good HDD 2TB Sata 3 that you guys recommend?

Also I already ordered the Rosewill Vector V2 case. DO I need any a Bracket (s) 2.5 for that 256GB Samsung 840 pro to stay in place on this case? Or the case provides that already.?

Meanwhile while I get some answers I will do research on those brackets =)
 
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I would definitely put video and photo editing programs on the SDD. Having photoshop load in under 3 seconds is one of the great benefits of an SSD.
RE the HDD, a Western Digital Blue, or Seagate Barracuda would be fine. Both are 7200rpm. You could go cheap like a WD Green but you give up a lot of performance.
RE Brackets. Most new-ish cases will take 2.5" SSDs with no brackets. Check the case specs.
 
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