Phenom compatability help

DorianGraves

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Ok. I need to move my phenom II x4 965 BE to an older motherboard so I can put an fx-8350 in my current main computer. The motherboard is right now housing an amd sempron that I am using for a server. It is from an hp computer. Here is the link to the motherboard spec page.
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?cc=us&lc=en&dlc=en&docname=c01925534#N543
It says that it supports phenom II x4 9xx/9xxe/8xx but it says tdp: 95w. The phenom is a 125w cpu. Will it work in this motherboard?
 
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Some CPU's will work with out being on the support list but come up as unknown. At which point the VRM system comes into play. the Chokes will be the first thing to blow but could send a nasty spike of current when it does to the CPU and frying that.

all in all the advice is not to do it.

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It does not need to be an AM3+ to run a 965BE. I've got one running on an AM2+ upstairs as I type. Unless you misread and are referring to the new FX 8350, which even then will work on some AM3 boards.
 
The Thermal Design Power (TDP) is the average maximum power a processor can dissipate while running commercially available software. TDP is primarily used as a guideline for manufacturers of thermal solutions (heatsinks/fans, etc) which tells them how much heat their solution should dissipate.

Using a CPU with a 125 watt TDP in a motherboard designed for 95 watt TDP can lead to a premature failure of the motherboard.
 

DorianGraves

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So what if I underclock it to only draw 95 watts? Would that work? I just need to know if the system will actually BOOT with the phenom x4 in it.
 

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That's not how that works.
 

goodguy713

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I call bs.. sure the 8150 would run in an am3 motherboard but not the 8350 get a clue .. AM3 + .. also that was only select motherboards.. sense were talking about HP motherboard typically bare essentials .. then No it wont run in an AM3 socket .. lol waist your money and try it .. as for the 965BE .. of course it will run in an AM3 socket .. it will even run in an AM2 + .. you should read the whole post before you comment on something you don't know about.

 

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http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=2695#ov
http://www.gigabyte.com/support-downloads/cpu-support-popup.aspx?pid=2695

Socket AM2+ - AMD 790X - GA-MA790X-DS4 (rev. 1.x)

vendor CPU Model Frequency L2
Cache L3
Cache Core Name Process Stepping Wattage System
Bus(MT/s) Since BIOS Version
AMD Phenom II X6 1100T 3300MHz 512KBx6 6MB Thuban 45nm E0 125W 4000 F10D
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T 3200MHz 512KBx6 6MB Thuban 45nm E0 125W 4000 F10D
AMD Phenom II X6 1075T 3000MHz 512KBx6 6MB Thuban 45nm E0 125W 4000 F10D
AMD Phenom II X6 1065T 2900MHz 512KBx6 6MB Thuban 45nm E0 95W 4000 F10D
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2800MHz 512KBx6 6MB Thuban 45nm E0 125W 4000 F10D
AMD Phenom II X6 1055T 2800MHz 512KBx6 6MB Thuban 45nm E0 95W 4000 F10D
AMD Phenom II X6 1045T 2700MHz 512KBx6 6MB Thuban 45nm E0 95W 4000 F10D
AMD Phenom II X6 1035T 2600MHz 512KBx6 6MB Thuban 45nm E0 95W 4000 F10D
AMD Phenom II X4 975 3600MHz 512KBx4 6MB Deneb 45nm C3 125W 4000 F10D
AMD Phenom II X4 970 3500MHz 512KBx4 6MB Deneb 45nm C3 125W 4000 F10D
AMD Phenom II X4 965 3400MHz 512KBx4 6MB Deneb 45nm C3 125W 4000 F10D
AMD Phenom II X4 965 3400MHz 512KBx4 6MB Deneb 45nm C2 140W 4000 N/A

Consider yourself educated. Now quit acting like a jerk wad.
 

ihog

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+1 for this guy, -1 for the guy he replied to.
 

goodguy713

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stop trying to give this guy bad advice.. seriously .. were talking about an hp motherboard an old one at that .. gigabyte has nothing to do with what his issue is .. coming from some one who has a ud5 AM3 board they updated the bio's to support the 8150 in later revisions after revision 2.0 actually. As far as the 965 it will run in that socket check the processor support page for the HP motherboard as the original poster linked. how ever an 8350 will not run with that particular HP motherboard. if he upgrades to a newer board that will alleviate the issue. EOS...
 
None of this maters. If you read and comprehended what he (he meaning the OP) wrote, the following is what he wants to do.

1. he has a HP board with a Sempron on it used as a server. = 1 PC
2. He has a Phenom II x4 965 and a different motherboard used as a main PC. = 2 PC's
3. he wants to take the Phenom II and put it in to the HP motherboard.
4. He wants to use an FX -8350 and put it in the board he took the Phenom II out of.

summery: he has 2 totally different systems. the one he is asking about is the HP with a 95 watt rating and has nothing to do with his plans to use an FX-8350. he wants to use the FX-8350 in the other system, but he did not say what board that had.

conclusion: STOP arguing about something that has nothing to do with the question asked. The FX series has no bearing on what was asked or the Board in question.

Answer to the question asked has been already answered and IS: "The CPU May work but will damage the board and also possibly kill both the Board and CPU. This is because the Voltage Regulation Modules/VRM's can not handle the current/voltage that the CPU requires to operate properly. They will over heat and melt due to not enough cooling."
 

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it is kind of funny though.. I don't normally troll but this guy got to me. +1 for rationality. either way vrm wouldn't have any bearing the cpu wouldn't be on the support list in the first place. plus you wouldn't be able to over clock it due to HP motherboards being locked down.
 


The issue is even just powering up the system to get into the bios, you take the chance of frying both parts. A system will draw the most right at boot. This is because every part draws the max to start up, spin up, power on ect. . This creates a power spike that the VRM's need to deal with and IF the spike is to much the voltage regulators pop and melt like a fuse does.

this does not take into account that long periods of use will heat the chokes and they will eventually fail.
 


Some CPU's will work with out being on the support list but come up as unknown. At which point the VRM system comes into play. the Chokes will be the first thing to blow but could send a nasty spike of current when it does to the CPU and frying that.

all in all the advice is not to do it.
 
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