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GTX 650ti BOOST vs HD 7770

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April 18, 2013 12:27:49 PM

I currently have a Radeon HD 7770 and I was wondering if it would even be worth it to replace that card with one of the new GTX 650ti BOOST editions? Or should I just get a second 7770 to crossfire?

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April 18, 2013 12:31:33 PM

1 on 1 the 650Ti boost is more powerful but it is weaker than a set of crossfired 7770's.
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April 18, 2013 12:33:13 PM

FCAT tests have shown that Crossfire is badly broken. AMD admits there is a problem and they're working on it, but a fix isn't expected before July. Short version: FRAPS will show a much higher frame rate, but many of the frames are runts, or get dropped before making it to the display. www.pcper.com has a very in-depth analysis of the FCAT testing.
The GTX650Ti Boost would be a nice jump over the HD7770. It is three tiers higher on the GPU hierarchy chart.
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April 18, 2013 12:35:30 PM

It depends on the game you are playing. In many cases such as Battlefield 3, the Crossfired 7770's scale really well and can offer performance close to that of a 7950. In other games, the advantage is almost nothing.

http://lanoc.org/review/video-cards/5708-hd-7770-crossf...

Overall, I think getting another 7770 would be the best value, but again it depends on what games.
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April 18, 2013 12:36:35 PM

Onus said:
FCAT tests have shown that Crossfire is badly broken. AMD admits there is a problem and they're working on it, but a fix isn't expected before July. Short version: FRAPS will show a much higher frame rate, but many of the frames are runts, or get dropped before making it to the display. www.pcper.com has a very in-depth analysis of the FCAT testing.
The GTX650Ti Boost would be a nice jump over the HD7770. It is three tiers higher on the GPU hierarchy chart.

So you're pretty much saying that getting the 650ti BOOST is the way to go at this point?
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April 18, 2013 12:38:11 PM

JD88 said:
It depends on the game you are playing. In many cases such as Battlefield 3, the Crossfired 7770's scale really well and can offer performance close to that of a 7950. In other games, the advantage is almost nothing.

http://lanoc.org/review/video-cards/5708-hd-7770-crossf...

Overall, I think getting another 7770 would be the best value, but again it depends on what games.

Right now, I've been playing more MMOs like WoW, RIFT and so on. I do play some games like Batman AC, Farcry 3, BF3, and Hitman. But lately, I've been more into the MMO scene.
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April 18, 2013 12:40:45 PM

Evan10800 said:
Onus said:
FCAT tests have shown that Crossfire is badly broken. AMD admits there is a problem and they're working on it, but a fix isn't expected before July. Short version: FRAPS will show a much higher frame rate, but many of the frames are runts, or get dropped before making it to the display. www.pcper.com has a very in-depth analysis of the FCAT testing.
The GTX650Ti Boost would be a nice jump over the HD7770. It is three tiers higher on the GPU hierarchy chart.

So you're pretty much saying that getting the 650ti BOOST is the way to go at this point?


until they actually fix it and that should be released in a driver or hot fix solution. at which point a pair of 7770's will be more powerful.

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April 18, 2013 12:45:02 PM

Yes the GTX 650ti BOOST is faster then a 7770 no question about it.
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April 18, 2013 12:47:32 PM

Crossfire may or may not be fixed, maybe by July, maybe not; OTOH the GTX650Ti Boost offers a substantial improvement, now, and you can add a second one in SLI later (SLI works) if you want even more power.
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April 18, 2013 12:50:33 PM

the thing is nobody is considering that the 7770's will be crossfired. 2X 7770's will out perform a single 650Ti boost. Like I mentioned in the fist post Yes the 650Ti boost is more powerful than 1x 7770 But if you crossfire then the table turns to favor the 2x 7770's.
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April 18, 2013 12:53:35 PM

bgunner said:
the thing is nobody is considering that the 7770's will be crossfired. 2X 7770's will out perform a single 650Ti boost. Like I mentioned in the fist post Yes the 650Ti boost is more powerful than 1x 7770 But if you crossfire then the table turns to favor the 2x 7770's.
That's true but cf is not working right now so op shouldn't risk those issues.

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April 18, 2013 12:58:59 PM

bgunner said:
Evan10800 said:
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until they actually fix it and that should be released in a driver or hot fix solution. at which point a pair of 7770's will be more powerful.
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bgunner said:
the thing is nobody is considering that the 7770's will be crossfired. 2X 7770's will out perform a single 650Ti boost. Like I mentioned in the fist post Yes the 650Ti boost is more powerful than 1x 7770 But if you crossfire then the table turns to favor the 2x 7770's.


We actually get that, but Crossfire is a bum deal right now until AMD does something about it. If you consider that a single GTX 650 Ti Boost is about 50% faster, then even assuming they fix Crossfire a second 7770 is not going to be a big improvement over that, if at all.... (and he still won't be able to enable PhysX in his Batman Arkham City game).


http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/HIS/HD_7750_7770_Cro...
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April 18, 2013 1:00:28 PM

Evan10800 said:
I currently have a Radeon HD 7770 and I was wondering if it would even be worth it to replace that card with one of the new GTX 650ti BOOST editions? Or should I just get a second 7770 to crossfire?

Evan,
The GTX 660 is a much better deal right now. They only cost about $10+ more, but they come with a free copy of Metro: Last Light, which the 650 Ti Boost does not.
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April 18, 2013 1:00:32 PM

Crossfire should not be considered until it is fixed, and the fixes have been independently verified. Crossfire will yield higher FRAPS numbers, but what the gamer actually sees is crap due to runts and drops.
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April 18, 2013 1:06:33 PM

Onus said:
Crossfire should not be considered until it is fixed, and the fixes have been independently verified. Crossfire will yield higher FRAPS numbers, but what the gamer actually sees is crap due to runts and drops.
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April 18, 2013 1:07:44 PM

Onus said:
Crossfire should not be considered until it is fixed, and the fixes have been independently verified. Crossfire will yield higher FRAPS numbers, but what the gamer actually sees is crap due to runts and drops.


The charts I posted demonstrate that the GTX 650 Ti Boost is about equal to a pair of 7770's in Crossfire using the FRAPS FPS (check the GTX 570 as a yardstick). And that goes without the associated driver issues and problems with Crossfire game profiles. This is starting to look like an easily solved dilemma.
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April 18, 2013 1:12:22 PM

I agree, Matto. The GTX650Ti Boost would be a nice upgrade, and looks like the best choice here.
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April 18, 2013 1:16:14 PM

Onus said:
FCAT tests have shown that Crossfire is badly broken. AMD admits there is a problem and they're working on it, but a fix isn't expected before July. Short version: FRAPS will show a much higher frame rate, but many of the frames are runts, or get dropped before making it to the display. www.pcper.com has a very in-depth analysis of the FCAT testing.
The GTX650Ti Boost would be a nice jump over the HD7770. It is three tiers higher on the GPU hierarchy chart.


I thought this was only with certain Cards?
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April 18, 2013 1:20:27 PM

cstahler92 said:
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I thought this was only with certain Cards?

Nope. Follow-on articles at PCPer showed that it extends up and down the line, actually getting worse at the "bottom" end (they didn't go below the HD7850 in their tests). There were a very few exceptions in which Crossfire actually worked, but I don't remember what they were.
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April 18, 2013 1:21:08 PM

cstahler92 said:
Onus said:
FCAT tests have shown that Crossfire is badly broken. AMD admits there is a problem and they're working on it, but a fix isn't expected before July. Short version: FRAPS will show a much higher frame rate, but many of the frames are runts, or get dropped before making it to the display. www.pcper.com has a very in-depth analysis of the FCAT testing.
The GTX650Ti Boost would be a nice jump over the HD7770. It is three tiers higher on the GPU hierarchy chart.


I thought this was only with certain Cards?

That's correct, it only applies to those AMD cards that are able to be Crossfired.
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April 18, 2013 1:26:00 PM

17seconds said:
cstahler92 said:
I thought this was only with certain Cards?

That's correct, it only applies to those AMD cards that are able to be Crossfired.

ROFL!
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April 18, 2013 1:30:32 PM

Onus said:
17seconds said:
cstahler92 said:
I thought this was only with certain Cards?

That's correct, it only applies to those AMD cards that are able to be Crossfired.

ROFL!

Good to know someone who's on my wavelength.
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April 18, 2013 1:44:50 PM

Deleted a troll-post...
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April 18, 2013 1:57:15 PM

Thanks for all the replies. I think I'm going to start saving up for a 650 BOOST.
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April 18, 2013 2:03:43 PM

Evan10800 said:
Thanks for all the replies. I think I'm going to start saving up for a 650 BOOST.

Just be sure to check out the GTX 660 as well for the free game.
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April 29, 2013 11:37:09 PM

17seconds said:
Evan10800 said:
Thanks for all the replies. I think I'm going to start saving up for a 650 BOOST.

Just be sure to check out the GTX 660 as well for the free game.


Decided to splurge and got a 660ti. Came with Metro: Last Light.
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April 29, 2013 11:43:06 PM

Nice!
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