Safe voltages and temps 3770K?

Jianni123

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Hi,

I have a 3770K overclocked to 4.5GHz.
In the bios i maunally set it too 1.185V.
In the bios main screen it says my Vcore is 1.176.

However I looked on CPU-Z for the voltage
CPU-Z displayed my voltage at 1.152. Which is not what i set it at.

Also i ran Prime95 for just under 2 hours and so far these are my temps: I know they are abit high due too case needing cleaning out and such.

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Hi :) Have you enabled any LLC in the BIOS? (Load Line Calibration) When a large power draw is put on the CPU it will drop down the volts under load, thats why you are seeing the difference. LLC counters this by the MOBO pushing more Voltage through to keep it at the level you have designated in the BIOS.

However, as Vdroop is designed in by Intel, many people including myself are a bit nervous about using high levels of LLC as there was an article on another site Anandtech that, basically stated that LLC may cause damage to the CPU over time. Although lots of people tend to just ignore this, many say they have used it for years and had no problems, I err on the side of caution and just use the lowest level. (There's no consensus on this at all some are for and some against).

If you find you are stable without using LLC (it will also spike your temps a bit) I would just leave it as it is :)



 

Jianni123

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Hi,

When i get home i will check the BIOS setting but im sure i left LLC and such at auto except the Vcore obviously. Im sure i can disable LLC if i wanted too right? Try what happens then? Well to be honest i havent really had any trouble with it. Had ran Prime95 for 9 hours with no errors. How can i test if my CPU is stable in games? Just look for crashes or what? I dont want too destroy my chip or shorten the lifespan of it alot since i do not know if i can get another chip if this one gets destroyed. I have seen people manually set their LLC. How can i see what my LLC voltage is? Right now i should be happy with the temps im getting right? The temps dont go above 75C on Prime95. Around 82C on IBT.

Also im running on the Gigabyte UP5-TH motherboard.
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LLC is off by default, so if you haven't enabled it, it wont be on. The setting will be for 25%/50%.... or level 1/2/3.... On my Asus board its medium/high/ultra high/extreme. What it allows is for your idle and partial load voltage to be lower because it lowers the amount of droop.

Say your chip needed 1.2 v to be stable at 4.5 ghz for example. With 100% LLC it would remove ALL vdroop so you could manually set the voltage to 1.2 no problem, and it would be stable. Without LLC you would have to set the voltage to 1.24, for example because when the IBT/Prime load came on the Vcore would drop from 1.24 to say around 1.2.

The only way to see how much droop you get is by watching the voltage in CPUZ while Prime/IBT is running. I tend to write down all my settings and voltages under different conditions (Idle V, Load V, offset amount, temps, CPU PLL everything all settings) and make tables for reference.

If your CPU is stable under IBT maximum 20+ passes and also Prime Blend for 12 hours, its unlikely that any game will bother it, I'm sure there are instances where problems have occured but most should be ok and if theres a crash due to the o/c sometime just add a tiny bit more Vcore, and retest Prime 95 blend.

Your temps look ok, I like to keep things under 85 in IBT and 75 in prime (70 is better but hey) again this is a matter or personal preference, some people are happy to go up to 90c, as there no real life situation when the cpu will ever generate as much heat as IBT does.

I would also suggest working in an offset once you know the lowest Vcore that you are stable at, turning on the auto V and adjusting to + or even possibly - from the auto voltages, it just allows for a bit of power saving when your chip is dropping down, and once you know the Voltage needed it just takes a bit of time to work out the offset required, its easy and may lower your idle temps, and less heat is always good.

Read some Ivy Bridge overclocking guides online, also look for Youtube videos with your mobo to give you an idea, its fairly easy but its always good to know for yourself the settings in your BIOS and exactly what they do and why you are changing them, that way you can get the perfect overclock settings for your particular setup and it will be stable and as cool running as you can make it for years to come. Google is your friend.

Good Luck ! (Btw I wish I had your chip if its stable at that Vcore. Mine needs 1.2 for 4.2 ghz :()
 

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Well i looked in the bios and i found Vcore Load Line Calibration. This was set too auto at default.
Scrolling through i only Saw Standard, Low, Medium, High, Turbo and Auto settings for it, i guess that standard or auto is off right?
Ah okay. well since i put it at 1.190V I ran Prime95 yet it still says 1.152. Im sure that manually setting the extra 0.005V would atleast bump it up to 1.160 or something?!

Well the temperature is always 1.152. No matter what is running, It doesnt budge from that. I do notice my CPU clock speed jumping up and down between 4500 and 4502Mhz. I will do what you said when i can be bothered.. Hard work being 14. We are too lazy!
After 30 minutes of Prime95. Max was 72C. Im happy with it reaching around 80C since it wouldnt hit that when gaming.
I really cant be bothered for that right now since it will take most of my time up, But i think at the voltages im running at.. Everything is perfectally fine.

I will read up on some overclocking guides and look at videos using a UP5/UD5H or any other ones with the same bios.. with a 3570K/3770K processor.
Basically Everything is at auto in my bios.
Except manual OC and such.
PWM Phase Control, Vcore Voltage Response, Vcore Loadline Calibration, GFX voltage loadline calibration, DDR CH(A/B) Voltage loadline calibration, CPU Vtt Loadline Calibration.
All them setting running at Auto, there are more settings but i dont have the time to name them all. But they are all at Auto too.
In the 3D power control sub menu that is.

in the CPU Core Voltage control submenu-
CPU Vcore- 1.190.
Dynamic Vcore(DVID) +0.000V. Auto.
CPU Vtt- 1.050V. Auto.
CPU PLL- 1.800V. Auto.
IMC- 0.925V. Auto.
Dynamic GFX Core(VAXG DVID) +0.000v. Auto.

Also.. Could be a golden chip? Well, not golden but a good overclocker atleast?:3

Correction.. Quick last check up before Bed showed that it only runs at 1.152V under Prime95 and such. It runs at 1.188 with occasional dips too 1.178V when Prime95 stopped.