Questions about temperatures

Trevor Lochart

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Apr 18, 2013
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Hey guys,

Well I just built my first PC. I successfully put it together and it is up and running, fantastic i might add. However i'm kind of concerned about the temperatures in my computer. I've read a lot of forums online about specific temps but a lot of them vary from person to person. What I would like to know if everything is at a good temp. First off heres what i got in my system.

-Asus sabertooth z77 mobo
-Intel i7-3770k
-G.skill ripjawz X series 16GB (2 x 8GB)
-EVGA Geforce Gtx 660
-Corsair H100i
-Cooler Master silent gold PSU

When I ran my CPU in prime for 3 min, the highest temp I got was 59 C

When I did a benchmark on my GPU for 3 min the highest temp I got was about 61 C

On idle my CPU runs at 25 C and on Idle my GPU runs at 29 C

Are these good temps or is there something that i need to change?

Thanks!
 
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Concerning your processor temperatures; Intel's Thermal Specification - http://ark.intel.com/products/65523/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz - for your i7 3770K is 67C, however, the technical definition of their specification is very complicated, so I'll break it down for you.

There are 5 thermal sensors in a 4 core processor; a single Analog sensor (CPU temperature) and 4 individual Digital sensors (Core temperatures).

The temperature shown in Intel's specification, (Tcase), is measured under tightly controlled laboratory conditions at 22C Standard Ambient (intake temperature). For lab testing only, a groove is cut into the surface of the Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS) where a thermocouple is embedded...
looks good to me. GPUs and Intels run hot... and those temps aren't "hot" by the definition of either.

definitely run a mixed burn on prime for a solid 3-9 hours and see how your temps go. they should stabilize around 10-15 minutes in... but you want to be sure there is a good airflow through the case by making it a long burn... and make sure your system is stable.

it was crazy how hot my exhaust vents got on my case after a few hour burn on prime. But the system/cpu and internal case temps were good, just went to show me how efficient my fans and airflow was... that the hot air was getting to the vent faster then it could cool down, or warm up anything else in the system. wild stuff.
 

Trevor Lochart

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Hey guys thanks for the help! Really 3-9 hours! haha 3 mins seemed like a long time. How come you want to run it for that long? My case does seem to have good airflow. I have the corsair carbide 500R. What are the temps that I should be worried about?
 

morgoth780

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It should be pretty ok, but you want to run it longer to see if your CPU is stable (if you overclocked) and for the max temp. My CPU might get to 60C after 3 minutes, but during a 12-hour run it gets up to 68C.
 
mostly, it takes a min of at least 3 hours to turn up small instability in a system... big stuff shows up inside of 15 minutes... but small stuff... yeah... it can take a while.

I like running it that long to make certain case airflow is solid, and to insure even under stress my system never will be subjected to, i don't have to worry about temps.

In my case, i'm running a PhII, so i don't ever want to see those temps over 55C... 12 hours of prime95 got my system up to 54C... perfect state of mind... knowing my system was rock stable and would never overheat
 

CompuTronix

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Concerning your processor temperatures; Intel's Thermal Specification - http://ark.intel.com/products/65523/Intel-Core-i7-3770K-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-3_90-GHz - for your i7 3770K is 67C, however, the technical definition of their specification is very complicated, so I'll break it down for you.

There are 5 thermal sensors in a 4 core processor; a single Analog sensor (CPU temperature) and 4 individual Digital sensors (Core temperatures).

The temperature shown in Intel's specification, (Tcase), is measured under tightly controlled laboratory conditions at 22C Standard Ambient (intake temperature). For lab testing only, a groove is cut into the surface of the Integrated Heat Spreader (IHS) where a thermocouple is embedded at the center. The stock cooler is attached, a steady-state 100% workload is applied, (like Prime95 Small FFT's), and thermal saturation is reached within 10 minutes.

Since there is no thermocouple on any processors outside Intel's labs, a single Analog Thermal Diode is instead used to "emulate" a thermocouple. This single analog sensor is located in the center of the lower layers of the processor package and is called "CPU" temperature, which is the equivalent of "Tcase".

The analog value is converted to digital (A to D) by the Super I/O (Input / Output) chip on the motherboard, then is calibrated to look-up tables coded into BIOS. This is the temperature you see in BIOS and in software monitoring utilities such as Asus Probe, which are provided by motherboard manufacturers.

"Core" temperature, also called "Tjunction", is measured at the heat source by an individual Digital Thermal Sensor (DTS) for each Core, which are factory calibrated. Since the CPU sensor is not in relatively close proximity to the heat source, there is a 5C thermal gradient "offset" between "Core" temperature and "CPU" temperature - which is documented in this Intel White Paper - http://arxiv.org/ftp/arxiv/papers/0709/0709.1861.pdf

This means that Intel's "Tcase" specification (CPU temperature) runs 5C less than "Core" temperatures. More correctly, since there is always some temperature sensor discrepancies between Cores, "average" Core temperature is most important. So if Prime95 Small FFT's is run for 10 minutes at 22C Ambient, then the average Core temperature is 72C.

Standard Ambient = 22C
Tcase (CPU Temp) = 67C
CPU / Core Offset + 5C
Tjunction (Core Temp) = 72C
Tj Max (Shutdown Temp) = 105C

Tj Max is Intel's Thermal Specification which defines the "Core" temperature at which the processor will shutdown. Excessive heat kills electronics. Any sustained temperatures greater than 75'ish are just too hot for a 12 hour stability test or processor longevity.

Bottom line? Your Core temperatures are well within Intel's specs. You're OK up to 72C, but remember that when running Prime95 Small FFT's, if you're testing below or above 22C Standard Ambient, then you need to add or subtract the difference so that your test results are corrected to Intel's standards. This way you eliminate variables, and your results will always be consistent and repeatable.

Concerning your GPU temperature; download and install EVGA Precision X 4.1, then set up a fan curve to keep your card from exceeding 75C.

Hope this answers any questions you may have about processor temperatures.

Comp :sol:
 
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