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April 19, 2013 9:42:39 AM

Hi,

I was just about to purchase a club3d 7870xt - problem is I have this board:

http://www.biostar.com.tw/app/en/mb/introduction.php?S_...

With what I believe is an Athlon AMD64 5000+ Dual Core, which is the problem as I believe this will be a bottleneck?

I don't really want to replace the Mobo as I just foolishly spent money on acquiring 4gb DDR2 gaming ram.

What are my options for this board on CPU? Or am I just gonna have to bite the bullet and get a new board, processor and RAM!

Will the bottleneck be that severe?

Many thanks

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April 19, 2013 9:47:10 AM

Yea it will be a really big bottleneck, what gpu do you have right now?
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April 19, 2013 9:50:04 AM

An asus 8800gt which is fine but is starting to lag these days with the latest games

No options for a better processor that won't bottleneck for this socket?
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April 19, 2013 10:11:00 AM

thebotch said:
An asus 8800gt which is fine but is starting to lag these days with the latest games

No options for a better processor that won't bottleneck for this socket?


None that would make a difference , I know you'll get a boost with the new 7870 xt regardless of the cpu. But you won't see it's full potential. There is no way around it. I'd get the gpu, and see how my gaming is, then save up for a new mobo/cpu/ram .
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April 19, 2013 10:17:58 AM

The boost you would get from the 7870xt would be almost totally offset by the CPU bottleneck. It would be like putting racing tires on a GEO metro.

You need a full system upgrade. I would spend way less on the graphics card and go for a cheaper build if your budget is limited. Even the difference between what you have and something like a 7770 would be like night and day.
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April 19, 2013 10:25:00 AM

Thanks guys for your advice, I'm glad I checked. Budget isn't too much of a problem but I don't wanna spend if I can help it but at the same time I want to future proof.

So two options. Would there be less of a bottleneck with a 7770?

Other option is a new mobo with ram and processor- any bundle recommendations? Cheapest way for me to achieve this?

Cheers!
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April 19, 2013 10:29:52 AM

I wouldn't recommend buying any new graphics card and putting it into that rig. I would build a new one from scratch, possibly saving a few components from your current one.

Any thoughts on what a budget might be or what games you are tying to play and what settings and resolution you are trying to play them at?

This way I can give you a price and some idea of what you can realistically achieve for that price.
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April 19, 2013 10:41:18 AM

Lets say I got the 7870 could I do the rest with 150-200? Mobo processor and ram...and actually most likely a psu too!
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April 19, 2013 10:42:47 AM

thebotch said:
Lets say I got the 7870 could I do the rest with 150-200? Mobo processor and ram...and actually most likely a psu too!


No, you'll need no less than $200 for CPU and motherboard and another $70-80 for RAM and PSU. Could probably be done under $300.

You could always drop down to a 7850 to save $100 and still be able to game really well.

Also, you will need to budget $100 for a copy of Windows if you don't have one already.
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April 19, 2013 11:21:23 AM

Sorry I meant pounds! 200 UK pounds, so that's about 300 dollars i think. Don't need any software etc. are there any good bundles of mobo CPU and ram that you could recommend? Thanks for your time!
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April 19, 2013 12:02:06 PM

Oh and battlefield 3 would be a benchmark as close to full settings as possible. I also ran bioshock infinite on medium at the moment so running tht on ultra would be good
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April 19, 2013 12:59:39 PM

Here's what I came up with for everything. It will run BF3 on full at 1920x1080.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£101.94 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock 970 Extreme3 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£66.98 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 4GB (1 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£23.38 @ Amazon UK)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 XT 2GB Video Card (£206.99 @ Novatech)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply (£49.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £449.28
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-19 20:59 BST+0100)

If that stretches the budget too far, you can drop down on the graphics card a little or drop the CPU down to the 74.99 Phenom II x4 965.
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April 19, 2013 1:55:36 PM

Thank you very much :)  that's exactly what I needed. I may just go for the 6 core. Thanks again!
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April 19, 2013 2:51:56 PM

No problem. Good luck and let us know how it turns out. If you wouldn't mind, please select a "best answer" as it helps those of us who post here out a lot. Thanks!
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April 30, 2013 3:56:31 AM

JD88 said:
No problem. Good luck and let us know how it turns out. If you wouldn't mind, please select a "best answer" as it helps those of us who post here out a lot. Thanks!


Thought I'd update you.

I ended up following your advice mostly and spent a tiny bit more on the following: Came in at just over 500 with delivery - I think I've forked a tiny bit extra just to get it all from the same supplier in the same delivery for ease. Will let you know how the build goes

Club3D HD7870XT jokerCard -
Graphics Card *FREE GAMES*


Gigabyte GA-970A-UD3 AM3+ -
ATX Motherboard

RAM - Choice: 8GB GSkill
Ares PC3-12800


Thermalright True Spirit 140- 1
CPU Cooler


AMD FX6300 Piledriver -
Processor 3.5Ghz 6 Core -
Black AM3+



Antec High Current Gamer -
520W PSU HCG-520

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May 2, 2013 8:22:31 AM

JD88 said:
No problem. Good luck and let us know how it turns out. If you wouldn't mind, please select a "best answer" as it helps those of us who post here out a lot. Thanks!


I finished my build yesterday. Rubbish quality pic below.

I would like to say it booted first time, but having not built a pc in a few years I didnt realise that the new mobos have two power supply connections! didnt take me too long to see what I'd missed though.

Cable management is a bit tricky in the Lian LI, but I'm not too bothered.

The IDE to SATA converter doesn't seem to be working on my media storage drive as its not showing up, I'm guessing that's because its cheap and old and not compatiable with this mobo - it did work with my old one.

Had a go at BF3 on ultra and it runs it no problem :) 


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