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Hey guys so this is my first post as well as my first pc build.

Since I have no real knowledge about CPUs and their performances I figured that I would ask you guys.

My question is should I invest in the intel i7-3770k or the AMD FX-6300. I hear their performances are around the same (intel being slightly better in a few areas) the reason I am hesitant is because the AMD is slightly cheaper but the intel is slightly better. The motherboard is the Asus p9x79. I would like to save a little bit so I can get the gtx 670 instead of the 660 but if the i7 is worth the cash then I will shell out for it.

Thanks in advance.
 
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If you want maximum performance for your dollar go with the FX 8350.

It's only $180 vs the $309 for the i7-3770k. The performance is going to be so close you won't know which one is which. The extra $130 you could spend on getting something like the Radeon HD 7870 (XT or LE preferably) or HD 7950. Which would make far more difference in gaming.

What's your budget and I can throw something together for you?
 
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Hello.

You've got quite a few issues here. First, the i7 3370k run about $200 more than the FX-6300 and performs significantly better in just about every measure. They really aren't meant to be cross shopped. A better comparison for gaming performance would be the FX-8350 and the Intel Core i5 3570K. They are close to the same price and offer comparable performance with the Intel chip being slightly better for slightly more money.

However, have you purchased that motherboard yet? The x79 chipset is actually for Intel socket 2011 which neither of those processors will fit into. It only takes the higher end E series i7 processors.

If you haven't purchased it yet, don't. You either want a socket AM3+ motherboard for the AMD chip or socket 1155 for the Intel chip.

What is your budget?

Are you comfortable with overclocking the processor?
 
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My build so far is mad follows:
Corsair 600t
Asus p9x79
Corsair vengeance 8gb
EVGA gtx 660
Thermal take 850w power supply
OCD vertex 125gb ssd
Corsair h80
Wd 1tb black edition
All I am missing is the processor and I don't really want to skimp.
My budget is around $2000
 
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if you have already ordered those parts, I would get this processor:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115229

It's really your only option under $600 and the difference wouldn't matter for gaming.

Unless you can return the motherboard that is.

Honestly, this build is way out of balance. You will have spent nearly $600 on CPU and motherboard but only $200 on graphics. The general rule of thumb for gaming is that the two should be about even. Everything will work, but performance won't be quite up to the money spent.
 
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PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RI0p
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RI0p/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/RI0p/benchmarks/

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($194.15 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($174.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Patriot Viper 3 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($149.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Adorama)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($449.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF XB (Black) ATX Desktop Case ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: Corsair Professional 750W 80 PLUS Silver Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($19.96 @ Outlet PC)
Optical Drive: Asus BW-14D1XT Blu-Ray/DVD/CD Writer ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1716.97
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-19 13:31 EDT-0400)

That still leaves you $300 basically to buy a monitor of whatever flavor you want...more if you don't need the $90 OEM Windows 7 license...or another HD 7970 for Crossfire.
 
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Are you using this to game mainly or something else? That is THE key question.

Can't recommend a processor without a clear understanding of how you plan to use the PC.

Edit: If for gaming, 8350s build looks pretty good but I'd recommend 2x 4GB sticks of 1600Mhz, 9-9-9-24, 1.5V ram since you won't notice a difference in gaming and save quite a bit of money. Would also kill that Blu-Ray burner unless you have a specific need for it. Those changes would take you south of $1500.

Another question is what resolution is your monitor?
 
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Here's what you want for gaming:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($134.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($66.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($189.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($74.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 670 2GB Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($399.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair Carbide Series 300R Windowed ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 750W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($73.50 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NS95 DVD/CD Writer ($17.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8 (OEM) (64-bit) ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $1788.39
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-19 13:37 EDT-0400)

This will absolutely destroy what you have listed and anything posted above. It will play just about any game maxxed or close to it and look classy in the process.

If you need to shave money off, just drop one of the video cards, but for a 2k budget, this is it with room for a monitor.
 
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Bang for the buck would be an i5(k if you intend to OC) and a 660 or 7870 XT (i.e. 7930.) An i7 for gaming is overkill most of the time. At 2k limit there should be no reason not to have an i5 and 670 pairing. I'd argue that after the 1k mark you really dont add much performance for the money.
 
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I have yet to buy anything because I plan on spending a lot of money because I want to do my first pc justice and more importantly do it right the first time. I don't plan to overclock because A. I don't know how. B. I don't see a reason to yet.
 
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Honestly...the i5/i7 isn't worth the extra money. The real world difference in FPS is between 3-5 when it wins...(except Skyrim which is an outlier)...and when AMD wins, it's by similar margin. You won't be able to tell...AMD costs less money, which allows you to spend more money elsewhere and get better parts. The GPU matters most in this case. The system I built has a HD 7970 GHz edition. There's not a game on this planet you cannot run on Ultra with all settings maxed using that card at very good frame rates...(60+ FPS).

 
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There's a few problems with this.

First, depending on where you buy from, the 8350 is only around $15-20 cheaper.

The real world difference in FPS is actually a lot more than 3-5, especially in online multiplayer games where CPUs are taxed the most. The 8350 will bottlneck even mid ranged cards in Skyrim, F1, Starcraft 2, and Planetside 2. In those it loses and loses badly to the Intel chips.

And as for when AMD wins, I'm not sure I've seen a single game where anything from the FX line beats an 3570k, or outlier games where the Intel chip totally chokes.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gaming-processor-frame-rate-performance,3427-9.html

This is all true without even mentioning the fact that the AMD chip sucks about 50% more power in the process.

The FX 8350 is not a bad chip by any means, but there simply is no justifiable reason to by one over the 3570K for gaming other than to save maybe $20. Productivity is another matter, but judging from some benchmarks where both chips are similiary clocked, I would argue the 3570K keeps up in most of those as well.

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/build-a-pc-overclocking-gaming,3440-11.html

The honest truth is that AMD's FX line is overpriced by about $30 across the board. If they would drop them by that amount, they would be significantly more competitive.

The 7970 GHz will not play any game maxxed at 60+. It won't even play Crysis 3 on high at 60+ and we're only talking about 1920x1080 here. New games are coming out all the time. It's not a bad card by any means, but lets not exaggerate it's performance.
 
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