Samsung SSD 830 vs 840 vs 840 Pro in gaming load time?

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So, after a long while of lurking around many forums and articles, I've come to the general conclusion that, from better performance to "worse", it goes from 840 Pro > 830 > 840.

However, I have a limited budget, and the 840 Pro is likely to be no option for me, and even though I began to look for 830s rather than 840s, since every indication that those are better, I can only find options when the 830 is slightly more expensive than the 840 (and no I cannot use newegg, I live in Portugal). But now I am wondering now that there has been a bit more time to test both the 840, is it really worth to instead buy the 830? On a throughout benchmark test, the 840 almost always won over the 830. Though almost all by slight margins, and on benchmarks, which most often aren't even noticed on a real-use basis.

My last question was that, I have seen indications which the 840 Pro, besides being better overall than the other drives, also significantly improves gaming load time, while there has been no word on such about the 830 or 840 basic model. Is there a significant difference between any of three in that section, or is it just another benchmarking bragging right? I am also looking only at the 120/128GB models.

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Modern 3rd generation solid state drives form a very tight performance cluster. Consumers will not normally notice any performance difference among the modern drives. In fact, consumers usually can't tell the difference between a SATA 2 3Gb/s ssd and a SATA 3 6Gb/s ssd. In order to measure any kind of difference a user would have to run synthetic benchmarks which are designed to grossly exaggerate those very minor differences.

For gaming just about any modern 3rd generation SATA 3 6Gb/s solid state drive will do.
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Modern 3rd generation solid state drives form a very tight performance cluster. Consumers will not normally notice any performance difference among the modern drives. In fact, consumers usually can't tell the difference between a SATA 2 3Gb/s ssd and a SATA 3 6Gb/s ssd. In order to measure any kind of difference a user would have to run synthetic benchmarks which are designed to grossly exaggerate those very minor differences.

For gaming just about any modern 3rd generation SATA 3 6Gb/s solid state drive will do.
 
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I thought so. With benchmarking and enthusiasts, things really seem to get blown out of proportion when in reality there's barely any difference! Thanks for your reply. I've also seen you around many other similar threads, keep up the good work!
 
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From my reading, one of the important differences between the Pro and non-Pro is not the speed, but rather the endurance. You can expect the 840 non-pro to die sooner then the pro version.

Then again, unless you are doing something foolish like running a continuous 400MB/s read/write loop on the drive, you probably won't kill either off before you would want to replace it anyways.
 
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Yeah, Samsung has stated that even if you write 10GB/s per day, it would still take, what, 7 to 10 years for it to die out?

Also, the Pro has much better write performance than the basic model, but from going from HDD to SSD, I wouldn't even notice or care. It seems its just really nitpicking and wanting to have the ~very best~, but while a limited budget, it isn't really worth it.
 
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Everything you said in the second paragraph is true. If budgets an issue (When isn't it?), the lower model Samsung would be just fine.

However, I would suggest that you probably meant 10GB/day, not per second! SATA 3 saturates around 500MB/s. To get 10GB/s, you'd need to do something terribly foolish, like connecting 24 800GB SSD's in RAID0. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/ssd-dc-s3700-raid-0-benchmarks,3480-5.html
(Then again, that seems to have only hit 4GB/s.)

If you have the money to do that, I don't think you'd be sitting on this forum quibbling about 50$ extra for the Samsung Pro!
 
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Looks like we have another misunderstanding about triple level cell (TLC) memory. There is absolutely nothing wrong with TLC memory in solid state drives. There is no reliability problem. The actual concern was the memory longevity (p/e cycles) which several review sites estimated to be 7 to 8 years based on a life expectancy of 1,000 p/e cycles and a user writing and deleting 10GB of data every single day of the year. I do not know of any consumer who writes that much data day after day, year after year.

Samsung disputed the longevity estimates but never published any estimates of their own.

Recently Hardware Info decided to torture test the TLC memory to find out just how long it will last before giving out. It now appears that the review estimates were incorrect. Their tests suggest the Samsung TLC memory will last a lot longer. The torture test is still in progress. Hardware Info published an update two days ago.

Here is a link to the entire torture test article:

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4178/hardwareinfo-tests-lifespan-of-samsung-ssd-840-250gb-tlc-ssd-update

LG, Plextor, and Micron/Crucial have all announced they will be introducing ssd's with TLC memory.

TLC memory is nothing new. It is used in GPS devices, cell phones, and other small portable devices.
 
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Oh, haha, yes 10 GB a day, of course. My bad, wow, I didn't even realize it, just a simple mistake.
 
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Thank you for your detailed reply. I myself was never really worried about its reliability, especially since, if you think about it, it's more reliable than the usual spinning hard drives, and I've never even stayed with those for more than 3 years at a time.
 
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