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April 21, 2013 5:04:01 AM

Coming up, I will be building a budget gaming pc, and am wondering what case to go with. I like both of them, and I want a case with a window because I will be using the nzxt hue lighting system in the case, and I would like to see the parts lit up. I am trying to keep the build around $600, so I don't want to cough out a load of cash for just the case. What do you guys think?
April 21, 2013 7:10:52 AM

If you guys have any other cases you would recommend in the same price point over these you can- I forgot to say that in the original post
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April 21, 2013 7:34:03 AM

I'd slightly lean towards the NZXT, since the cable management will be cleaner with the internal rubber grommets. They are both quality cases though, and either will suit you very well. For a $600 build though, an $80 case might be a bit expensive though, perhaps you should go for something in the $50 or less range, to make sure you have enough for the best possible hardware, such as: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

@yasserBasha The Coolermaster doesn't have a side window :p 

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April 21, 2013 7:38:58 AM

Marshall, welcome back my friend :D 

I suggested both because of size, quality and price....but zalman is a good choice for ventilation
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April 21, 2013 11:13:49 AM

yes ... i like it actually
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April 21, 2013 11:38:13 AM

I know this shouldn't go in this thread, but since it is in the systems forum, what the heck. Is this a good build for my price range?http://pcpartpicker.com/p/S8bA
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April 21, 2013 11:46:48 AM

your budget is $650 ?
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April 21, 2013 11:57:27 AM

yasserBasha said:
your budget is $650 ?

My intended budget is $600, but I figured I could squeeze out another $50 if it was worth it in the long run.

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April 21, 2013 11:57:41 AM

This is more powerful and within your budget range :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($72.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ TigerDirect)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $605.12
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-21 15:05 EDT-0400)


the case didn't have a usb 3.0 port to connect to usb 3.0 internal connector in the mobo so i changed it, and why do you need the NZXT hue ?
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April 21, 2013 12:11:52 PM

yasserBasha said:
This is more powerful and within your budget range :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-B75M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($72.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z11 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ TigerDirect)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $605.12
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-21 15:05 EDT-0400)


the case didn't have a usb 3.0 port to connect to usb 3.0 internal connector in the mobo so i changed it, and why do you need the NZXT hue ?

I figured that it would be a neat feature to add to the build without spending crazy money. Also, the build looks good, just one thing-can this handle light video editing? I won't be editing on a normal basis, only if I need to work on a video as a class project or something simple like that.

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April 21, 2013 2:11:51 PM

Ok , if you want a real POWER-PACKED build that can handle everything you throw at with ease (even heavy video editing) .... this is the one :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ TigerDirect)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $603.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-21 17:20 EDT-0400)

Notice that the CPU this time is quad-core, Also at the same price.

BEST LUCK
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April 21, 2013 2:23:51 PM

yasserBasha said:
Ok , if you want a real POWER-PACKED build that can handle everything you throw at with ease (even heavy video editing) .... this is the one :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD Phenom II X4 965 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-78LMT-USB3 Micro ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($44.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.97 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Zalman Z5 Plus ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224BB DVD/CD Writer ($15.99 @ TigerDirect)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $603.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-21 17:20 EDT-0400)

Notice that the CPU this time is quad-core, Also at the same price.

BEST LUCK

This is it! Thanks for the help!

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April 21, 2013 2:25:27 PM

You're welcome, My friend
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April 22, 2013 1:04:17 PM

Also, from what I read, the Zalman Z5's front usb 3.0 ports don't connect to the header on the board-they route to the back to plug in to the rear 3.0 ports. Should I just stick with it, or get a different case that actually plugs into the header?
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April 27, 2013 1:29:21 PM

If I was to want to change the motherboard to a mini-itx sized mobo to put in like a bitfenix prodigy case, what would be the best processor chipset and processor to use for this size in this price range, as from what I see, there are no mini-itx am3+ motherboards?
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April 27, 2013 1:30:55 PM

If I was to want to change the motherboard to a mini-itx sized mobo to put in like a bitfenix prodigy case, what would be the best processor chipset and processor to use for this size in this price range, as from what I see, there are no mini-itx am3+ motherboards?
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April 27, 2013 2:49:55 PM

This build will be the best for the buck :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-I Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($95.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.22 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.91 @ Amazon)
Total: $628.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-27 17:59 EDT-0400)

H77 chipsets are more the general home/media use + sata 3 is worth it; every SSD in the market (for future plans) fully saturate that speed.

If you're willing you can spend a $25 more to get HD7850 from previous build, for more smooth gaming and video editing.

BEST LUCK
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April 27, 2013 6:01:59 PM

yasserBasha said:
This build will be the best for the buck :

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G860 3.0GHz Dual-Core Processor ($68.24 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-I Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($95.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($49.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.22 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 430W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($39.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($90.91 @ Amazon)
Total: $628.30
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-27 17:59 EDT-0400)

H77 chipsets are more the general home/media use + sata 3 is worth it; every SSD in the market (for future plans) fully saturate that speed.

If you're willing you can spend a $25 more to get HD7850 from previous build, for more smooth gaming and video editing.

BEST LUCK


Do you think it is worth spending the money, or should I just stick with this card for my build?

EDIT: I think I am going to go with this. I don't know if I will need the 7850 in my build, as I probably won't use the 7790 hard enough to see the difference between the two. The gaming I will be doing averaged around 15fps on a 7300 gs card, so I think this will be plenty fine: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TuzI also, do you think I should go windows 7 or 8? I am thinking 8, as I won't be using any programs that have issues with 8, but I feel I should maybe stay on the safe side and just use 7.
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April 28, 2013 3:55:02 AM

Windows 8 is really for tablet and touch-based PCs, and it's not fully stable yet, and as you said you won't use this much of work to actually consider win 8 ... So I won't recommend it unless you really need SkyDrive , Metro-style interface and DirectX 11.1 for your work, other than that get windows 7 and you can install .NET framework 4.5 and IE 10 like win 8 has.

Also for the record : Intel Pentium G860 doesn't support RAM speed over 1333
http://ark.intel.com/products/53492#infosectionmemorysp...

You won't notice any difference in performance, so get the originally supported 1333 for less money , it's logical call.
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April 28, 2013 5:29:54 AM

The G860 is old hardware, a G2020, though 0.1Ghz slower, will perform 6% faster since it's newer architecture (latest generation vs generation before current): http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637g2020 It's also cheaper, esp. if you buy it from Microcenter (only $50).

Also for a space constricted case like the Prodigy you should really consider a modular power supply. This one is one of the better ones, since it will fit easily with no need for squeezing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I don't think Windows 8 is that bad, you can set it up to have almost exactly the same functionality as W7, but with better security, though unless W8 is cheaper, I'd just stick with W7.

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April 28, 2013 5:46:10 AM

marshallbradley said:
The G860 is old hardware, a G2020, though 0.1Ghz slower, will perform 6% faster since it's newer architecture (latest generation vs generation before current): http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637g2020 It's also cheaper, esp. if you buy it from Microcenter (only $50).

Also for a space constricted case like the Prodigy you should really consider a modular power supply. This one is one of the better ones, since it will fit easily with no need for squeezing: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I don't think Windows 8 is that bad, you can set it up to have almost exactly the same functionality as W7, but with better security, though unless W8 is cheaper, I'd just stick with W7.

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I agree with the g2020 part if he's around micro center...but with PSU $81 cost (also not reliable brand) and win 8 the budget is going a little overboard ($694) , Also the PSU i included is a MODULAR one, besides win 8 really isn't stable yet and you can get most of it's features (previously mentioned) to a more stable win7, as for the security part the windows updates and good anti-virus should do the trick.

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April 28, 2013 6:12:35 AM

@yasserBasha SilverStone is a very reputable brand, I don't know what you're talking about! If you don't believe me, here's a review of the power supply getting 92% from TweakTown: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3720/silverstone_strid... If you look at the tiered power supply list as well: http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx You can see that SilverStone have plenty of Tier 1 supplies, and the one I linked is in Tier 3, exactly the same as the Corsair CX series.

The CX 430 is modular?? I agree that the 500M you linked in the other build is semi-modular, but A) it's only $10 less before rebates (and rebates aren't really the same as getting it for $20 less, depending on the conditions of the rebate) and B) it's likely going to be a very tight fit, because it is a 160mm power supply (which is the absolute max recommended size from the BitFenix) AND it's modular, which adds length because of the modular plugs sticking out the end. The power supply I linked is 140mm.

The G2020 is still cheaper even if he's not near a Microcenter (only by $4 yes) but it still performs better anyway. What's not to like about better performance for less?

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April 28, 2013 6:54:56 AM

marshallbradley said:
@yasserBasha SilverStone is a very reputable brand, I don't know what you're talking about! If you don't believe me, here's a review of the power supply getting 92% from TweakTown: http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/3720/silverstone_strid... If you look at the tiered power supply list as well: http://www.eggxpert.com/forums/thread/323050.aspx You can see that SilverStone have plenty of Tier 1 supplies, and the one I linked is in Tier 3, exactly the same as the Corsair CX series.

The CX 430 is modular?? I agree that the 500M you linked in the other build is semi-modular, but A) it's only $10 less before rebates (and rebates aren't really the same as getting it for $20 less, depending on the conditions of the rebate) and B) it's likely going to be a very tight fit, because it is a 160mm power supply (which is the absolute max recommended size from the BitFenix) AND it's modular, which adds length because of the modular plugs sticking out the end. The power supply I linked is 140mm.

The G2020 is still cheaper even if he's not near a Microcenter (only by $4 yes) but it still performs better anyway. What's not to like about better performance for less?

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http://pcpartpicker.com/part/corsair-power-supply-cx430... The 430 is semi modular, along with the 500m. I don't know exactly the length of the 430, however. Also, does the g2020 also have limited 1333 ram?
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April 28, 2013 6:56:25 AM

Oh, and also, is anyone currently having troubles getting onto newegg? I can't open the links and whenever I try to go to the website it just says page unavailable. It might just be me, as my computer is having problems with internet connections lately.
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April 28, 2013 7:03:19 AM

Oops! I didn't think Corsair did a CX 430M, my mistake. Sorry yasser! Also I'm slightly confused about the length as well. On Newegg it said the CX 500M was 6.1" (160mm) whereas on Amazon it is saying something different. Checking on Corsair's official site, it says that the CX 430M and 500M are both 140mm, so in retrospect, I'd probably go with them (unless you want the full modularity of the SilverStone).

Yes the G2020 is only 1333, but if you pay $10 more, you can get the G2120, which is both 0.2Ghz faster and does support 1600Mhz RAM: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637g2120

EDIT: Yes I can't reach Newegg either. It's serverside it would seem.

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April 28, 2013 7:20:24 AM

marshallbradley said:
Oops! I didn't think Corsair did a CX 430M, my mistake. Sorry yasser! Also I'm slightly confused about the length as well. On Newegg it said the CX 500M was 6.1" (160mm) whereas on Amazon it is saying something different. Checking on Corsair's official site, it says that the CX 430M and 500M are both 140mm, so in retrospect, I'd probably go with them (unless you want the full modularity of the SilverStone).

Yes the G2020 is only 1333, but if you pay $10 more, you can get the G2120, which is both 0.2Ghz faster and does support 1600Mhz RAM: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/intel-cpu-bx80637g2120


EDIT: Yes I can't reach Newegg either. It's serverside it would seem.

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It seems that I can get back on now. I figured it was my end, because I just rebooted chrome and it worked fine. Good timing, I guess! Would I be good with the 430 with a 7790 gpu, or should I go 500? I don't want to go overkill, but also I don't want to go underkill (if that is even a word)
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April 28, 2013 7:47:14 AM

For only $10, I'd probably go for the 500W unit. I feel like anything faster than the 7790 and you'll want a bigger power supply. Graphics technology changes so fast, that it wouldn't be such a big surprise if you wanted a better graphics card within 1-2 years, so you might want to go with a 500W unit to ensure you can upgrade the graphics whenever you want. You're definitely saving money compared with having to swap out the power supply when you upgrade.

Having said that, for your current system 430W is plenty.

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April 28, 2013 8:17:30 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G2120 3.1GHz Dual-Core Processor ($77.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-I Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($95.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($59.98 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.22 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7790 1GB Video Card ($129.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($93.31 @ Amazon)
Total: $642.45
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-28 11:15 EDT-0400)

Does this look good overall? Also, do you think I should get a 230mm fan to install into the front of the case to help airflow, or do you think the two 120mm fans that come with the case will be enough?
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April 28, 2013 8:19:32 AM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'll just leave the links for price comparison .

1-Marshallbradley, it's always a delight to see you in a thread, even when you disagree on something you do it with highly respectable way.
2- the PSU CX430M is plenty for even a Radeon 7850, but for future upgrade (possibly 8xxx series) a better 600w PSU will be preferable, so i recommend that you stick to this until you have the money for upgrading to more powerful GPU (possibly with i5 or i7)
7790 uses around 180w in FULL stress load : http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_7790_review...
so it'll be enough
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April 28, 2013 8:26:20 AM

yasserBasha said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I'll just leave the links for price comparison .

1-Marshallbradley, it's always a delight to see you in a thread, even when you disagree on something you do it with highly respectable way.
2- the PSU CX430M is plenty for even a Radeon 7850, but for future upgrade (possibly 8xxx series) a better 600w PSU will be preferable, so i recommend that you stick to this until you have the money for upgrading to more powerful GPU (possibly with i5 or i7)
7790 uses around 180w in FULL stress load : http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/radeon_7790_review...
so it'll be enough


Guess I'll have to wait a bit-newegg quit working for me again.
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April 28, 2013 8:36:06 AM

where is the optical drive you'll be installing the OS with ?!!!
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April 28, 2013 8:37:58 AM

yasserBasha said:
where is the optical drive you'll be installing the OS with ?!!!


I have a external usb disc drive that I used with my netbook. Figured I could save $20 and just use that.
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April 28, 2013 8:48:26 AM

O.k , I understand that you tend to go with DDR3 1600 RAM, but why you don't get a G2020 & Radeon 7850 for less future upgrade hassles (only CPU you'll be needing in the next 2 years), the RAM will work with the CPU no problem it'll just be clocked down to 1333 until you get a cpu that supports 1600 .
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April 28, 2013 8:55:41 AM

yasserBasha said:
O.k , I understand that you tend to go with DDR3 1600 RAM, but why you don't get a G2020 & Radeon 7850 for less future upgrade hassles (only CPU you'll be needing in the next 2 years), the RAM will work with the CPU no problem it'll just be clocked down to 1333 until you get a cpu that supports 1600 .


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G2020 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-I Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($95.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($59.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.22 @ Amazon)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon HD 7850 2GB Video Card ($154.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($93.31 @ Amazon)
Total: $639.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-28 11:54 EDT-0400)

Is this good, then?
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April 28, 2013 9:17:00 AM

PERFECT .. !! :) 

Just get the Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 for the future and you're set .
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April 28, 2013 9:52:48 AM

yasserBasha said:
PERFECT .. !! :) 

Just get the Corsair Vengeance DDR3-1600 for the future and you're set .


Just out of curiosity, when in a couple years when I upgrade the gpu, would the cpu I am getting in this build bottleneck it?
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April 28, 2013 10:01:57 AM

It'll be too old CPU for games especially BF4 or GTA V, it's not bottleneck issue as it's the horsepower that drives the system to Play these games smoothly .
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April 28, 2013 10:14:44 AM

yasserBasha said:
It'll be too old CPU for games especially BF4 or GTA V, it's not bottleneck issue as it's the horsepower that drives the system to Play these games smoothly .


Do you think when time comes to upgrade that I can upgrade with the same cpu socket, or will I have to switch to completely switch to newer stuff?

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April 28, 2013 10:22:07 AM

Socket 1155 won't disappear for a long time to come, even if the MB manufacturers stopped socket 1155 MBs (unlikely !!) the CPUs will still be around for years to come, just look at socket 775's flagship Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad ... They're still around until present day despite the discontinuance of socket 775 MBs.
So you'll be fine with your upgrade plans :) 
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April 28, 2013 10:30:35 AM

yasserBasha said:
Socket 1155 won't disappear for a long time to come, even if the MB manufacturers stopped socket 1155 MBs (unlikely !!) the CPUs will still be around for years to come, just look at socket 775's flagship Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad ... They're still around until present day despite the discontinuance of socket 775 MBs.
So you'll be fine with your upgrade plans :) 


The Core 2 Duo is what is in my system now, clocked at an astounding 1.8 ghz! I wasn't aware they still made these processors. It makes me feel better now that I know I can upgrade my cpu on this same socket!
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April 28, 2013 12:41:59 PM

Unfortunately they are phasing out socket 1155 chips with Haswell (Intels next release) but as yasserBasha says, stuff like the current gen i5s (Ivy-Bridge) will likely be very powerful for ages. The next gen from Intel will only be 10% or so faster than the current i5s, so I'm guessing it will be at least another 3-4 years before the i5-3xxx starts to show its age.

They don't still make Core 2 Duo/Quad though (I'm 99% sure), yasserBasha only meant that they are still very usable for gaming with.

I think 500W is the perfect amount for a power supply if you're thinking about upgrading the GPU in maybe one or two generations time. When graphics technology moves forwards, the power draw falls quite a bit. Even the top tier current cards only require about 500W, so you definitely won't need 600W in a couple of years time. For example compare the power requirements of 7970 (500W) to a 5970 (650W). 500W will easily last you through the next couple of GPUs.

Personally I wouldn't go for a 2gb card for the 7850, it's not really powerful enough to use all that VRam, unless you're gaming at higher than 1080p, in which case you need a more powerful card anyway. Perhaps if there was the possibility that you were going to CrossFire them, but since it's an mITX rig, that's not possible. Here's a comparison of 1gb vs 2gb 7850 performance: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2012/11/05/ms... This would be my recommendation as to which 7850 to go with. It's slightly cheaper (since it's a 1gb) but also has 2 fans (making it both quieter and cooler) and is in stock, always an important consideration: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I also think most people would agree that Sapphire > PowerColor in terms of quality.

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Unfortunately they are phasing out socket 1155 chips with Haswell (Intels next release) but as yasserBasha says, stuff like the current gen i5s (Ivy-Bridge) will likely be very powerful for ages. The next gen from Intel will only be 10% or so faster than the current i5s, so I'm guessing it will be at least another 3-4 years before the i5-3xxx starts to show its age.

They don't still make Core 2 Duo/Quad though (I'm 99% sure), yasserBasha only meant that they are still very usable for gaming with.

I think 500W is the perfect amount for a power supply if you're thinking about upgrading the GPU in maybe one or two generations time. When graphics technology moves forwards, the power draw falls quite a bit. Even the top tier current cards only require about 500W, so you definitely won't need 600W in a couple of years time. For example compare the power requirements of 7970 (500W) to a 5970 (650W). 500W will easily last you through the next couple of GPUs.

Personally I wouldn't go for a 2gb card for the 7850, it's not really powerful enough to use all that VRam, unless you're gaming at higher than 1080p, in which case you need a more powerful card anyway. Perhaps if there was the possibility that you were going to CrossFire them, but since it's an mITX rig, that's not possible. Here's a comparison of 1gb vs 2gb 7850 performance: http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2012/11/05/ms... This would be my recommendation as to which 7850 to go with. It's slightly cheaper (since it's a 1gb) but also has 2 fans (making it both quieter and cooler) and is in stock, always an important consideration: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... I also think most people would agree that Sapphire > PowerColor in terms of quality.

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Okay! Thanks for the info. Here is what it is at right now


PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Pentium G2020 2.9GHz Dual-Core Processor ($49.99 @ Microcenter)
Motherboard: Asus P8H77-I Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard ($95.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: PNY Optima 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($59.99 @ Best Buy)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.22 @ Amazon)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7850 1GB Video Card ($149.99 @ Newegg)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Corsair CX 500W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V Power Supply ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($93.31 @ Amazon)
Total: $634.47
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-28 17:09 EDT-0400)

Also, just out of curiosity, I have seen that bitfenix had made a windowed side panel. I thought it might be a cool addition to the build later on, but I can't find anywhere that you can buy it at! Was this something that they don't sell anymore, or is there a way you can get it? Wait, does it just come standard with the new prodigy cases?
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