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April 21, 2013 7:02:52 AM

Hi I'm looking for a Bitfenix prodigy build as my gaming pc is too big, would be really helpful if you guys can help me. I'am going to uni this September so need something portable and med/high spec to do all my computing/gaming :) 

Don't really mind if its amd or intel. At the moment I was planning on just getting the case and a mini itx am3 board so that I could transfer my cpu,gpu,psu etc to the prodigy build :) 

At the moment I have an amd athlon x4 3.00ghz, sapphire hd7850 oc edition, ocz 750w, corsaire vengeance 3x4gb ram. 1tb + 500gb(these are the stuff I have on my gaming pc).

I have around £200-400 to spend but the cheaper the better don't really want to spend all that money lol, would prefer a quadcore build but I don't mind a dual core build, also need a graphics card equivalent to a hd6850 or something if not I'll just use my hd7850.

Thanks in advance :D 

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April 21, 2013 8:03:58 AM

allanitomwesh said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor (£95.40 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Mini ITX FM2 Motherboard (£75.78 @ Ebuyer)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case (£69.40 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £240.58
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-21 15:59 BST+0100)


Thanks omg that looks so tempting :o  also is that processor good? really wanted the 8 core am3 one but yeah they dont have any am3 mini itx :( 
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April 21, 2013 8:06:52 AM

I'd say just keep what you have, don't go for an A10, that will have no where near the required power!

What OCZ supply do you have? You'll want to check that it fits the case.

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April 21, 2013 8:19:06 AM

It's not a bad processor,actually quite capable,but with itx there have to be sacrifices. I could make an Intel one for more. That'll get you power.
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April 21, 2013 8:26:11 AM

Oops, there aren't an AM3 ITX ones are there... Hmm I guess the A10 is the best way then. Either that or Intel. You could get an i5-3350P and motherboard easily with that budget, which would be a lot more powerful. More expensive too though of course.

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April 21, 2013 8:30:03 AM

marshallbradley said:
I'd say just keep what you have, don't go for an A10, that will have no where near the required power!

What OCZ supply do you have? You'll want to check that it fits the case.

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I've got an ocz 750w zs series, just actually watched a video and the max size psu you can fit is 180 and mine is only 160mm or i think it was 130 either one :) 
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April 21, 2013 8:32:01 AM

allanitomwesh said:
It's not a bad processor,actually quite capable,but with itx there have to be sacrifices. I could make an Intel one for more. That'll get you power.


Intel build would be okay could you give me a spec, the more ideas the better right :D 

at the moment I have an amd athlon x4 640 3.0 on my big ass gaming rig but im sure the a10 is better?
Also planning to get a 60gb ssd or something to install the OS on :) 
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April 21, 2013 8:34:16 AM

OCZ make pretty standard PSU's id be surprised if it doesn't fit. I think you would be able to move pretty much all your stuff,if the list above is all you got.
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April 21, 2013 9:20:39 AM

The A10 isn't all that much faster. The thing about the A10s is they're designed with a large focus on the Integegrated GPU (which you won't be using anyway) rather than all the power on the CPU itself, so they lose a bit of CPU power compared to similarly priced AM3 and Intel CPUs. Have a look at an A10 compared to i3s/i5s: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6347/amd-a10-5800k-a8-560...

If you wanted to go Intel this would be a good combo:

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£143.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard (£77.10 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case (£69.40 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £290.49

Obviously it's a tad more, but the difference in performance between an A10 and an i5 is really a lot. You could also go for an i3, which would be the same price as an A10 but with better performance.

The thing about getting an A10 is it's not really cost effective unless you use the Integrated GPU.

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April 21, 2013 9:23:08 AM

that's a good combo there,or the 3350p to save on the processor
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April 21, 2013 10:03:26 AM

marshallbradley said:
The A10 isn't all that much faster. The thing about the A10s is they're designed with a large focus on the Integegrated GPU (which you won't be using anyway) rather than all the power on the CPU itself, so they lose a bit of CPU power compared to similarly priced AM3 and Intel CPUs. Have a look at an A10 compared to i3s/i5s: http://www.anandtech.com/show/6347/amd-a10-5800k-a8-560...

If you wanted to go Intel this would be a good combo:

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-3470 3.2GHz Quad-Core Processor (£143.99 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: ASRock H77M-ITX Mini ITX LGA1155 Motherboard (£77.10 @ Amazon UK)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (White) Mini ITX Tower Case (£69.40 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £290.49

Obviously it's a tad more, but the difference in performance between an A10 and an i5 is really a lot. You could also go for an i3, which would be the same price as an A10 but with better performance.

The thing about getting an A10 is it's not really cost effective unless you use the Integrated GPU.

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Thanks thats awesome :)  was actually looking at something similar :D 
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161009926872?ssPageName=STRK:... same mobo- £70

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/271191326764?ssPageName=STRK:... Intel Core I5 3570K Ivy Bridge 1155 3.4Ghz £160

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BitFenix-Prodigy-Mini-ITX-Cub... Case- £68

Basically £300 all together :) 

I also have a coolermaster evo something heatsink so i'll probably just use that or just buy another :) 
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April 21, 2013 10:06:26 AM

allanitomwesh said:
that's a good combo there,or the 3350p to save on the processor


Sorry I'm not very knowledgeable when it comes to intel processors what do you think would best i3 dual core processor cheapest possible. Might consider making a dual core build or something as I will probably only be doing coursework etc + a bit of gaming such as league of legends etc :) 
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April 21, 2013 10:59:22 AM

The i5 is a very capable processor,and is a boost from an athlon.If possible spend the exta. I used to be a big fan of the 3470 for a combination of great price to power (it only lacks overclocking) however the 3350P is significantly cheaper and lacks integrated graphics as another miss. You already have graphics and it's already fast enough for gaming and schoolwork.
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April 21, 2013 11:37:26 AM

allanitomwesh said:
The i5 is a very capable processor,and is a boost from an athlon.If possible spend the exta. I used to be a big fan of the 3470 for a combination of great price to power (it only lacks overclocking) however the 3350P is significantly cheaper and lacks integrated graphics as another miss. You already have graphics and it's already fast enough for gaming and schoolwork.


Alright thanks yeah will probably get the 3570k version :D 
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April 21, 2013 3:34:31 PM

I wouldn't waste my money on the K series chip. The i5-3570K is £20 or so more than a 3350P/3470, which really doesn't justify the tiny difference in speed of like 0.2Ghz. In real world terms that's going to be a less than 5% gain in performance, since performance is mostly dependent on the architecture of the chip (i.e. i5 vs i3) than the clockspeed (i.e. 3.4Ghz vs 3.2Ghz). The only reason to buy a 3570K is if you want to overclock, which will cost you quite a bit in terms of a) a better Z77 motherboard and b) an aftermarket cooler. This wouldn't really be worth it for your needs, and adds even more cost.

It's better to save your money and go for a non-K chip. I would also strongly recommend against buying from eBay, as the return policies from places such as Amazon are much better, and you're guarenteed to be dealing with a trusted retailer.

@allanitomwesh I would have recommended the 3350P as well, but it's only £2 cheaper than 3470 atleast on PCPartPicker, so it doesn't seem worth that tiny of a price difference.

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April 21, 2013 8:42:12 PM

PC part picker doesn't have alot of European stores. It's £125 at WAE+
You are correct that 3570K necessitates overclocking but I think he's aware of this.
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