Sabertooth Z77 and memory compatible kits

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solidsnake1607

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Hello everyone! I've always been around tomshardware's forum and saw great answers here so i decided to register and make my own question :p Sorry if i type or express a bit wrong.. I dont speak english well enough.
Im building a new rig.. I already bought Power supply (Seasonic X850), Case(NZXT Switch 810 Black) Memory Kit (4x4 GB Corsair dominator platinum 2133 cl9) Cpu cooler (Thermaltale Water 2.0 Extreme) i still i must buy Processor (Im deciding between I7 3770K or wait for Haswell) and Mobo(I like Sabertooth a lot) and also further ill get two msi gtx 660 instead of a single gtx680 (is that a good idea?) So basically i didnt see that corsair dominator 4x4 2133 kit at the list of compatible memories so.. is it or not? Should a wait for haswell? Im really anxious to build my rig!!! Thanks in advance. Cheers from argentina.
 
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chesteracorgi

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Haswell is delayed for a few months, and while the components you have chosen are very good, and should be able to be run either in the Z77 or Z78 platform, there is no guaranty that they will run in the Z78. It is best to wait to buy after you have decided on the platform.

Everything you mention should run on the IB or Haswell platform except maybe the RAM. If you are anxious to build then go with the IB platform, as Haswell is only going to be 7-15% faster.
 
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heres what i would say you did wrong

-ram looks great and all, but you pay a 4x price premium for something you are barely going to look at. not to mention faster ram voids your warranty and is essentially useless for increasing performance
-cheap watercooling is never the way to go. plus, a switch 810 is meant more for watercooling. a cheaper case like a fractal define r4 works fine for what you are using it for
-getting 2 660s for a 850w is a joke. go grab yourself a set of gtx 670 (the msi power edtion and the gigabyte windforce 3x models are the best
choices)
-sabertooth is a scam. you pay for a plastic shield that traps dust and heat and makes more noise since you have to have a tiny 40mm fan running at 4000+rpm trying to keep the stuff inside cool. not to mention the features onboard can be found on something like a gigabyte ud4h for 80 bucks cheaper
-i5 are for gaming. i7s are for work. thats about it. if you want to wait for haswell, go ahead but then 10% performance increase wont really matter if you arent making money off of a rig
 
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Thanks guys for the fast reply. I mainly bought all those stuff for the look, and also performance. I know my psu is good and i handle a pair of 680 but i buy what i can.. a GTX 670 is about 750 u$s here.. i doubt i'll be able to sli two of them :( Im going for ivy then seems haswell dont worth the wait. What z77 mobo is good then for my stuff? I cant afford a complete water kit like a Raystorm D5 with triple 140 rad(420mm) it is 720 u$.. i hate that. Wish i could get everything from newegg or amazon prices without paying the extra for buying outside u.u then i could build.something decent
 
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well start of with 1 670 and add on. 2 660s for a super high end build is dumb

to save money, just buy a i5 3570k instead. its going to perform the same.


as for prices and all, check out ncix.com. they ship internationally but there is no guarantee that it will be cheaper after shipping and import taxes
 
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You can choose any Z77 mobo from a good OEM with you he specs you want. ASUS, ASRock, Gigabyte, MSI & Biostar are good. Make sure they have the PCIe slots that you need, & adequate SATA & USB ports.

BigTroll is right about the chips, the 3750K is the top for gaming, but the 3770K is best of IB for productivity.

I recommend closed loop coolers over big air cooled heatsinks because of the constant torque placed on the mobo because of the weight. The Corsair hydro series is very good.

Regarding the RAM, I use Gskill 2133 RAM per my mobo specs. According to Intel techs any use of aftermarket cooling and/or RAM over spec voids the warranty, but when I RMAd a 2500K & I told them that I has a CLC the tech told me that I voided my warranty. But I told him that I had only did what Intel did with the SBe he laughed and approved the RMA.

If you tweak your system and need to RMA any component maybe the truth is not your best policy.

 
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With a shearing torque of 1 kg constantly applied to a motherboard, and, for which no PCB is designed, I would argue that the large heatsinks are defective by design. And as an attorney, I would have a field day in court with any engineer who argued that it was incorporated in his design. Motherboards are not reinforced for the holes bearing the heatsinks. Intel's design specs are for their sorry sucking CPU coolers which place a stress on the mobo of les than 200 g. All of the mobo designs follow the Intel reference design in this.

The cracking of ASRock PCBs is because they can print better PCBs on thinner materials than their competitors. The PCBs can be reinforced, but the design is contrary to having an efficient PCB. The OEMs of large heatsink aftermarket coolers are at odds with the designers of the PCBs.

You can have maximum air cooling by heatsink, but the problem is the weight and resultant stress on the motherboard. Or you can go with a CLC and get similar cooling with much less stress on the motherboard.
 
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