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snowboard12

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I just got a new computer "HP Envy H8-1414 Windows 8" and im trying to play some games on here. It works pretty good with most the games i have but im trying to play a variety of them and good enough to where i wont be tempted to buy the game on PS3 or Xbox 360. whats in my computer for processor is AMD FX-6120 Six-Core Processor 3.50 GHz with a AMD Radeon HD 7450 graphics card, also with 10 GB of RAM. I am a college student so my money is pretty tight right now but for the future i can think about upgrading to more expensive items. right now i have about $1000 i can blow on this computer and im not looking for top of the line graphics cards or anything like that.
I know that my graphics card should be upgraded but with that what graphics card should i get and what else should i get with it?? maybe a motherboard, or a new CPU, more RAM. try throwing some things at me and just help me out. Thanks.
 
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Start with a good case and a better power supply.
Look at

http://us.ncix.com/

and

http://www.newegg.com/

for parts

Please download CPU-z and give us more details like what speed of ram you are using and if it is ddr2 or ddr3. And what model of mother board you have.

Trust me on the new case it will cool your parts way better and make them last longer.
Choose one you like here and add some case fans to it.
http://www.newegg.com/Computer-Cases/Category/ID-9

And to run a new graphics card you should get a new power supply from either Corsair or Seasonic.

With a new case and power supply you can cool and power what you are going to build and go from there.

Chances are you will reuse the Ram, cd/dvd -drive, hdd, and cpu.


 
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My RAM is using DDR3 and the speed is 665.0 MHz under the DRAM Frequency. My motherboard is a Gigabyte 2AC8. Thank you for helping me
 
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The FX-6120 isn't what's hurting game performance - the HD7450 is. I wasn't even aware AMD made an HD7450. I'd have to venture a guess that it's an OEM-only GPU, which could mean it's a rebranded/rebadged HD6000-series card from the previous model year.

In order to properly recommend a GPU upgrade, we'd need to know just how much power the system's Power Supply has to spare. Find its specification label and tell us the 12V amperage rating. Also, look for available PCIe 6-pin and/or 6+2/8-pin power cables, and note how many of each is present. There's no sense choosing a GPU if the Power Supply can't provide enough juice (or even the proper connections) to power it. Additionally, you'd see a significant performance improvement over the crap HP stuck in it from an HD7770 or GTX 650, which sell for roughly $110 online.

As for brand preference, much like an opinion or a__hole, everyone has one. I've had no major issue with any card I've ever purchased, and I've owned/used cards from MSI, XFX, ASUS, Gigabyte, HIS, eVGA, VisionTek, PNY, PowerColor, and BFG (defunct) in the last 5-10 years. Some cards will perform better than those offered by rivals, but the difference is often only slight. Price isn't always indicative of performance, either. Most cards will utilize the original reference PCB design from AMD or nVidia, so they're virtually identical. What separates them is often the cooling solution used, and each company's warranty coverage and support structure. (Some companies permit modifications, such as aftermarket cooling solutions and/or water cooling, while others disallow any tampering with the card whatsoever.)

10GB of RAM? That's odd... One of those DIMMS is definitely not like the other(s). Pre-built manufacturers are so stupid sometimes... Are there two or three DIMMS in it? (Two 4GB DIMMS and one 2GB DIMM, or one 8GB DIMM and a 2GB DIMM?) I can't help but chuckle just a bit while shaking my head. So much for a proper dual-channel memory configuration.
 
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nope its mid range cpu with a high end gpu but only 1 gpu so its a mid high. if he was using a i7 extreme cpu with an ares 2 or sli gtx titan then it would be high end.


 
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the best currently is the lightning. it offeres the best compromise between cooling and oveerclocking without blowing out your ears with noise.
the direct cu2 or frozer 3 are both worth a look if the lightning is out your range.
and as your on an oem machine you best check with the manufacturer to make sure your bios will allow the 8350 also consider a new psu you will need a minimum of 550w rosewill have just released a realy nice 1 that is earning praise. its 80+platnum.

 
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It's not holding back the GPU. Plus the 8350 is like a 3570K so hardly mid level.
 
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How many games have GPU Physx ? Adobe is droping Cuda and I am afraid propratary is on the way out. OpenCL is just better and faster as is SSE CPU Physics calculations.
 
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If I were you I'd get a nice 750W power supply like this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010&Tpk=hx%20750&IsVirtualParent=1

or
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151087

and then not worry about the power supply again...unless you are adding a second graphics card.

Get a new case to cool your new components like this one

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146081&Tpk=nzxt%20410%20tempest&IsVirtualParent=1

cheap and lots of options

or

for a little more
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811129178&Tpk=antec%201100&IsVirtualParent=1

and fill the case up with fans where you can mount them.

Then add a good graphics card like a hd 7950 or 660ti and you should be good to game.

The case, power supply and g-card would cost about $580 total.

And if you are gonna build this all yourself Check out this 3 part video series on youtube from Newegg.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lPIXAtNGGCw
 
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$1000 will be more than enough to basically play any games out there on ultra settings. I personally think that you should sell (or keep) the old pc and build a new one. If you can inform me on what games you want to play and at what settings. Also, what site do you want to order from, i could put together a shopping cart for you. I assume your budget is $1000, if not please tell me.
 
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I don't get it. Why didn't you come and make this post BEFORE you went and bought that computer. Would have saved you so much money.

How much did that computer cost you? I don't mean to sound like an @$$, but you could have taken the money you spent initially on the computer, plus the $1000 you say you have now, and made an awesome computer. Now, you are stuck with low-quality parts that need to be replaced for better performance, so buying that computer initially was pretty much a waste of money, seeing as you will have to replace at the minimum the CPU, Power Supply, and the GPU.

I just don't get the logic in going and spending hundreds of dollars on a PC, then going on a hardware forum and saying alright I have $1000 to make this PoS I bought better what do I do. Like, if you knew it was gonna need to be upgraded, why would you get it in the first place...
 
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I don't think that it is a POS. It's attractive and most likely very good for business, just not gaming.

This is what I would do
GTX 660 Superclocked 2GB DDR5 $199
http://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-192-Bit-Graphics-02G-P4-2660-KR/dp/B009F7HFRA/
500w Thermaltake $29.99
http://www.amazon.com/Thermaltake-Purepower-W0100RU-Power-Supply/dp/B000MIP0EG

Because I am perhaps a bit numb, I would also add a case fan for more intake or outtake at one of those vents on the side of your tower, just screw through the grill into two of the hole on a diagonal and get a 4pin molex to fan 3pin adapter, something like this
small fan
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Slim-80mm-Standard/dp/B005C31GIA
Adapter
http://www.amazon.com/HDE®-4-Pin-Molex-3-Pin-Cable/dp/B0081K3ZS0

For around $250 you will have a computer that will play Farcry 3, BF3, Crysis 3, Arma 3 fine.

You could also upgrade the cpu to fx-8150, that is the most that board can do. I don't think this is quite worth it though.
AMD FX-8150 8-Core Black Edition $164.99
http://www.amazon.com/AMD-FX-8150-8-Core-Processor-FD8150FRGUBOX/dp/B005UBNLFK

You could experiment with over-clocking if you got a better heatsink and fan but this comes with it.

 
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I got this computer because it was around the time i started college, I needed something to just do everything with since im going to school for computers. I never knew about this site or even thought about asking people about what i should do, i just went out to buy it. I never have used a computer for gaming but i saw how much better and more options there are out there for PC gaming so i decided to try and post on one of these sites about how i could make this computer be able to a variety of games. and this computer was around $800, like i said it was something i needed at the time and had no intentions of playing games on it till now, after reading some of these i wish that i could have just built a computer from scratch with all the best there is but this is what i have now.
 
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Okay, I gotcha. Once, again, didn't mean to come across as rude. I thought you planned on gaming on it from the get-go and bought it like yesterday with the intent of upgrading it.

Like others have said, your best bet is replacing the power supply, then the GPU(with like a 7970), and then the CPU to an 8320. In that order too. Best of luck to you on your quest for gaming!
 
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lol seriously dude... for gaming it is a mid level part. its in the under £250/$300 price bracket which makes it mainstream. its not a £400,$550 part or a £1000 cpu is it? thats high end... ala the 3970x is a high end cpu...
the 3750k is mid and the 2120 is entry level. dont argue. your making yourself look a troll
yes there are slower cpu's but there not generally available.

yes its an amd cpu and the top of the tree as far as there cpu's g but its still only a mid level performer when you compare it to intels range of cpu's...
 
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No one with a brain spends $1000 on a CPU just to play games LOL. The difference between the FX 8350 and 3770K in game is marginal at best. A gaming rig with a high end gpu like 7970/7950 690/680/670 does not become a mid range rig just because you drop a 3570k or FX 6300 in it it just becomes a smart decision.
 
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