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Dell Inspiron 660 graphics card help

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April 22, 2013 8:00:51 PM

Hi, I'm looking at upgrading my graphics card for my PC and have a few questions.

I've been looking at the radeon hd 7750 and from what I've read it's capable of running on a 300W PSU, is this correct and would I run into any problems? And is there any difference which brand of card I choose or are they all the same? Also, is there any other cards you can suggest that would be compatible with my PC?

Any help is appreciated, cheers!
a b U Graphics card
April 22, 2013 9:52:43 PM

Just make sure you get the GDDR5 version of the card. IMO MSI makes a very good 7750 that I had on my previous rig. The card would never budge over 50 degrees celsius under full load. And it even ran Crysis 2 on Advanced settings @ 1366 x 768 at about 35-40 FPS which kinda impressed me. So for me I'd say MSI if you can, but Sapphire, Asus, Gigabyte are good manufacturers as well. Use this website to help you figure out if your power supply will suffice - I think this card is one of the best/easiest choices for you considering it's the best GFX card that does NOT require an addition power connection. It draws all its power straight from the motherboard.

http://images10.newegg.com/BizIntell/tool/psucalc/index...
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April 23, 2013 4:32:38 AM

Cool thanks! Would I be able to play BF3 and 4 when it comes out (I know there's no specs out yet) without problems? GDDR5 is faster than GDDR3, correct?

Sorry I'm new to PC hardware and stuff so a lot of this is double dutch at the moment! :lol: 
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a b U Graphics card
April 23, 2013 11:29:39 AM

ec87 said:
Cool thanks! Would I be able to play BF3 and 4 when it comes out (I know there's no specs out yet) without problems? GDDR5 is faster than GDDR3, correct?

Sorry I'm new to PC hardware and stuff so a lot of this is double dutch at the moment! :lol: 


Yeah GDDR5 is much faster. I believe it's less apparent in the lower portions of the mid-range for gfx cards but if you can get a GDDR5 card for just a little more, it's worth it. BF3 and BF4 both are and will be very graphically intensive games. They also depend on processor capabilities as well. Try going to www.game-debate.com; search for the game you're interested in, and fill in your computer's specs. The site will give your pc a rating relative to the game's requirements and advise you what setting to put on.
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April 23, 2013 9:01:57 PM

anthony8989 said:
Yeah GDDR5 is much faster. I believe it's less apparent in the lower portions of the mid-range for gfx cards but if you can get a GDDR5 card for just a little more, it's worth it. BF3 and BF4 both are and will be very graphically intensive games. They also depend on processor capabilities as well. Try going to www.game-debate.com; search for the game you're interested in, and fill in your computer's specs. The site will give your pc a rating relative to the game's requirements and advise you what setting to put on.


I think I can run it at medium to high settings going by the rating game-debate gave me

Pentium dual core E5400 2.7ghz 5 star
radeon hd 7750 [1024 X 720] 7 star
4gb RAM 6 star
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April 29, 2013 10:24:22 PM

Alright, I have the card now! Do I have to do anything before putting the card in and installing the drivers? This is my first time installing a GFX card, so some help would be great!
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a b U Graphics card
May 2, 2013 8:10:52 AM

For best results, you need uninstall old video drivers drivers, disable old hardware in Device Manager, just place new card firmly in PCIE sloot, no additional power connectors are needed, start the PC, install new set of drivers - this should be enough unless something happens.
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May 2, 2013 9:57:00 PM

I installed the card and drivers without a problem, but I'm having some problems playing BF3 and have no clue what to do.
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a b U Graphics card
May 2, 2013 10:20:52 PM

What problem? I am playing BF3 as well, in the past I had GTX 550TI and I got smooth play on medium settings and lagg on high. You should be able to play on medium to low settings ok.
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May 3, 2013 2:03:24 AM

My ping jumps from 20-40 all the way up to 1000+ stays there for a bit then drops back to 20-40 and does that throughout the whole match or until I get kicked. I've got my settings on low and the FPS sits around 30-40 and sometimes drops in the 20s, makes it hard to play as I keep bouncing back and forth as I run.

I'm going to call my ISP about the ping problem, so hopefully that fixes my problem and it's not my computer struggling.
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a b U Graphics card
May 3, 2013 7:58:42 AM

Have you played BF3 on line before, from you house, either on this PC or another one? I am very surprised by the size of lag, never seen anything like this. Please report back in any case you results after ISP, please.
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a b U Graphics card
May 3, 2013 8:23:00 AM

Forgot to ask, play single player and report FPS, I don't remember the map, but google BF3 and video card testing, just use something as "bf3 7750 benchmark" to see the name of map, and go there by yourself and check your FPS and report back. On line play depends a lot on ping.
Also, do you have router? It may influence ping as well, also what ISP kind you have, cable or DSL, and how far you from Central Office (if DSL).
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May 4, 2013 4:54:34 AM

Kisianik said:
Have you played BF3 on line before, from you house, either on this PC or another one? I am very surprised by the size of lag, never seen anything like this. Please report back in any case you results after ISP, please.


The only time I've played BF3 or any other game online is on my PS3 and don't think I've had any problems with that. I've yet to call my ISP but will do in the next day or so and get back to you.

Kisianik said:
Forgot to ask, play single player and report FPS, I don't remember the map, but google BF3 and video card testing, just use something as "bf3 7750 benchmark" to see the name of map, and go there by yourself and check your FPS and report back. On line play depends a lot on ping.
Also, do you have router? It may influence ping as well, also what ISP kind you have, cable or DSL, and how far you from Central Office (if DSL).


I've been playing SP off and on and averaging 40-60 FPS on low at 1280 X 1024 and sometimes drops to 30ish FPS. I've noticed when playing multiplayer my frame rate drops to low 20s when it's an almost full server.

I have a router and it's DSL, I'm about 3km(1.8miles) from the nearest exchange.
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a b U Graphics card
May 4, 2013 10:29:10 AM

When it is coming to Internet - I pass, this is not my area of expertise.
I would advise you to make new post at networking with as much information as possible, including router model - I remember tweaking my router for gaming, but already forgot how.

Also, one more thing left over - memory (RAM).
I have 8GB and during play total amount of ram used is around 4.5GB, so this is another weak area for you.
Tell me what RAM configuration you have now and how many RAM slots you have. I am tired to look for this info, sorry.
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May 5, 2013 10:23:19 PM

I'll do that, thanks! I hooked the router up to my PC via ethernet cable earlier and the ping stayed in the 20s and didn't jump to 1000+, but sadly I can't use it that way all the time.

I have 4GB of ram and play time usage is 2.41GB, which I can see being a problem and I have two more slots for RAM. Am I putting my PC at any risk of damage?
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a b U Graphics card
May 6, 2013 9:53:14 AM

ec87 said:
I'll do that, thanks! I hooked the router up to my PC via ethernet cable earlier and the ping stayed in the 20s and didn't jump to 1000+, but sadly I can't use it that way all the time.

I have 4GB of ram and play time usage is 2.41GB, which I can see being a problem and I have two more slots for RAM. Am I putting my PC at any risk of damage?


No, lack of RAM does not put the PC at risk of any damage unless you manually overclocked the RAM in your PC's bios which I'm sure you didn't. Online play varies greatly, and if I had to guess what was holding your PC back I'd say it's your processor. I think your motherboard supports the 1155 socket so maybe you should look in to upgrading the processor to a Core i3-2100 or something along those lines. The i3 would most likely improve your FPS by 10-15 in my opinion.
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a b U Graphics card
May 6, 2013 9:17:07 PM

ec87 said:
I hooked the router up to my PC via ethernet cable earlier and the ping stayed in the 20s and didn't jump to 1000+, but sadly I can't use it that way all the time.


Oh, can you make this happened?

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anthony8989 said:
if I had to guess what was holding your PC back I'd say it's your processor. I think your motherboard supports the 1155 socket so maybe you should look in to upgrading the processor to a Core i3-2100 or something along those lines. The i3 would most likely improve your FPS by 10-15 in my opinion.


ec87 what is your processor model? Dell can be upgraded, but general socket rules usually do not apply due to Dell locked BIOS restrictions.
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a b U Graphics card
May 6, 2013 9:23:20 PM

According to very reputable source http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3...

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The Inspiron 660 is validated with these Dell CPUs:
1G6R1 1.80GHz G460 Sandy Bridge, 1C,35W,Q0
77VPR 2.70GHz G630 Sandy Bridge, 3MB, 65W, 2C, Q0
972H5 3.30GHz i3-2120 Sandy Bridge, 3MB, 65W, Q0
F6KN0 3.00GHz i5-2320 SandyBridge Quad Core, 6MB, 95W, D2
JN8M2 3.10GHz i5-3450 Ivy Bridge Quad Core, 6MB, 77W, E1


So, what do you have ec87?
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May 6, 2013 9:52:37 PM

anthony8989 said:
No, lack of RAM does not put the PC at risk of any damage unless you manually overclocked the RAM in your PC's bios which I'm sure you didn't. Online play varies greatly, and if I had to guess what was holding your PC back I'd say it's your processor. I think your motherboard supports the 1155 socket so maybe you should look in to upgrading the processor to a Core i3-2100 or something along those lines. The i3 would most likely improve your FPS by 10-15 in my opinion.


I know RAM won't damage the PC, what meant is my PC at risk of damage if I keep playing the game with my current hardware? sorry, should've made the original question a bit clearer.

I know my processor isn't the best but it was slightly better than the minimum requirements so I thought it would be enough, I'll look into upgrading it but I'm on a limited budget and might be awhile until I can get it. Thanks for your help!
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a b U Graphics card
May 6, 2013 10:21:16 PM

No you cannot damage your PC by playing, if you power supply is I'll designed it might burn and so on, but I did not hear yet anything that bad about Dell parts.
I would generally advise you to fix your Internet prior to even looking for more upgrades, get the router!
Upgrading RAM always helps, but right now Internet is you priority, once you done and your ping is constantly in 20th not 1000, comeback to this thread when you ready for any more upgrades.
I have setup notifications and getting new updates directly to my phone!
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May 6, 2013 11:09:08 PM

Kisianik said:
Oh, can you make this happened?

ec87 what is your processor model? Dell can be upgraded, but general socket rules usually do not apply due to Dell locked BIOS restrictions.


Unlikely, but I'll see what can be done.

My processor is a Pentium Dual-Core E5400 2.7ghz, that's all I know about it.

Kisianik said:
No you cannot damage your PC by playing, if you power supply is I'll designed it might burn and so on, but I did not hear yet anything that bad about Dell parts.
I would generally advise you to fix your Internet prior to even looking for more upgrades, get the router!
Upgrading RAM always helps, but right now Internet is you priority, once you done and your ping is constantly in 20th not 1000, comeback to this thread when you ready for any more upgrades.
I have setup notifications and getting new updates directly to my phone!


Alright good to know. I'm considering upgrading and getting a gaming rig in the future, so I'll see what happens but I'll fix my internet first and go from there. Thanks for your help it's much appreciated!
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a b U Graphics card
May 7, 2013 7:45:16 AM

ec87 said:
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My processor is a Pentium Dual-Core E5400 2.7ghz, that's all I know about it.


I hope you wrong, because I just checked Dell purchasing http://www.dell.com/us/p/desktops?~ck=mn#!facets=135390~0~12672840&p=1 and the cheapest Inspiron 660 has G2020 processor.
Now, according to CPU benchmarks your current (I still hope you are wrong) processor Pentium Dual-Core E5400 @ 2.70GHz benchmark is 1610, lowest possible currently sold is Intel Pentium G2020 @ 2.90GHz benchmark is 2869, and the maximum upgrade is Intel Core i5-3450 @ 3.10GHz benchmark is 6467.

I hope that your motherboard can accept this upgrade, in this case you don't have to worry about next new PC for a while.
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May 7, 2013 8:23:04 PM

Nope, that's what I've got! :lol:  My PC is about 3 years old so I might save my money and upgrade later in the year and just make do with what I've got now.
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a b U Graphics card
May 8, 2013 7:06:18 AM

ec87 said:
Nope, that's what I've got! :lol:  My PC is about 3 years old so I might save my money and upgrade later in the year and just make do with what I've got now.


Unfortunately you can not upgrade using the CPUs I provided because your current socket is LGA775 and i5-3450 (and G2020) are using LGA1155 socket, so you stuck with old processors along LGA775 line, and it is still need to be checked which ones are compatible in your case.
So the life is not that beautiful as you think, sorry.
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June 3, 2013 9:48:28 PM

I'm not sure if I should start a new thread or just ask here... but I think my monitor is dying/dead, last night I was browsing the net and all of a sudden my monitor starts flickering on and off, today I was doing the same thing and I could smell burning from the vents at the top of the screen and then it started turning on and off. I'm not 100% sure but I doubt my new gpu damaged the monitor, the monitor is an HP vs17e and it's fairly old so it could just be a coincidence but I just want to be sure.

Once again thanks for any help that is given.
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a b U Graphics card
June 3, 2013 10:22:16 PM

ec87 said:
I'm not sure if I should start a new thread or just ask here... but I think my monitor is dying/dead, last night I was surfing the net and all of a sudden my monitor starts flickering on and off, today I was doing the same thing and I could smell burning from the vents at the top of the screen and then it started turning on and off. I'm not 100% sure but I doubt my new gpu damaged the monitor, the monitor is an HP vs17e and it's fairly old so it could just be a coincidence but I just want to be sure.

Once again thanks for any help that is given.


Smell of burning = electronics dying. Time to buy a new monitor - but don't worry, they go cheap now.
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June 4, 2013 5:53:05 AM

Yeah that's what I thought it was but wasn't sure and for some reason thought it could've been something else causing the problem... all just coincidence it seems.

It's end of financial year sales so I can get it a bit cheaper than usual which is convenient.
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a b U Graphics card
June 4, 2013 10:27:15 PM

Monitor, get it.
How was lagg and ping issues, resolved?
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