4 Monitor system for day trading/software development.

OsbourneCox

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Over a year ago I spec-ed out a computer on this site and ended up putting it on hold:

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/333548-31-system-trading-software-development

My desktop is now 7 years old, slow as a dog and loud as hell. I actually kicked it today to quiet the fan. So I'm determined to pull the trigger this time and really determined to build a quiet machine.

Here is the updated summary:

Approximate Purchase Date: Within 4 weeks
Budget Range: <1500
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Day trading, software development (visual studio), limited gaming. (NHL14)
Parts Not Required: Keyboard, mouse, monitors, speakers
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg.ca, TigerDirect.ca
Country: Canada
Parts Preferences: None
Overclocking: No
SLI or Crossfire: No
Monitor Resolution: Max
Additional Comments: Support 4 monitors

Willing to trade $$ for silence!

Below is the first crack of what I've come up with, some of which is carried over from last year's recommendations or taken from other systems on the forum.

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/SBB9
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/SBB9/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/SBB9/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.58 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: Asus P8Z77-V PRO ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($186.98 @ Amazon Canada)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Corsair Neutron Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($199.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($59.88 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Video Card: HIS Radeon HD 7750 1GB Video Card ($99.99 @ Memory Express)
Case: Antec SOLO II ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Memory Express)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1265.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-23 18:14 EDT-0400)

 
ok... mmm... you don't want to xfire/SLi unless you have to. this isn't a situation to do it.

here is an alternate plan that will work better and cost less.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($139.99 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($35.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($95.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($60.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($67.50 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card ($409.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Cooler Master Elite 431 Plus (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Power Supply: SeaSonic S12II 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($85.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1190.91
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-23 18:54 EDT-0400)


frankly this is probably more pc then you need. in the grand scheme of things, you don't really need more then an a10-5800k APU... but you named your budget so i built the best machine i could to it. here is the machine i'd build if you came to me and listed your needs but not a price.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD A10-5800K 3.8GHz Quad-Core Processor ($124.99 @ Canada Computers)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($31.63 @ DirectCanada)
Motherboard: ASRock FM2A85X-ITX Mini ITX FM2 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($59.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($185.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.99 @ DirectCanada)
Case: BitFenix Prodigy (Black) Mini ITX Tower Case ($79.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $922.35
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-23 19:07 EDT-0400)
 

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PCPartPicker put in the SLi part. I've removed it to avoid confusion with anyone else.
 


that APU build could be cut down to $500-$600 easily... but i went "rich" and "high quality" with the parts because of your budget, and desires.
 

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Thanks for the two suggestions. I'm looking at both.

To be frank, I arbitrarily ruled out AMD just to simplify things. But being able to run three monitors off of the motherboard would really cut down the price. I didn't know that was an option. I could probably use one of the cards I have now to start off to get to 4 monitors.

The "high quality" parts were driven from the silent PCs builds I've read. I recently tried wearing earplugs and realized how much of an effect the PC noise has on me so I'm willing to spend the money for silence.
 

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I'd actually stick with the original build but I'd make a few changes:

1. Instead of dual 7750s, get a single GTX 660 - it will handle 4 displays without issue.

2. Get the OCZ Vector instead of the Corsair Neutron

3. You're overpaying for that motherboard and CPU combination. Drop the CPU to the i5-3350P and the motherboard to the H77 model. You won't need all the features of the V Proif you're not overclocking and you won't notice the very slight drop in performance by downgrading the CPU. I would definitely stick to Intel though.
 


well... i could give you a 0db system build too... but it will be a bit expensive. I do build systems for sound studios and am familiar with quiet pc builds. You pay a premium for them, but you can get them really quiet when done right.

That AMD APU can support 4 monitors natively. (the 85FX chipset grants that feature)

If i was building a silent pc though i'd likely go with intel. too much effort needs to go into AMD systems to keep them cool because of the lower max temp thresholds for their cpus... intel cpus are easier to passively cool because they can safely run at much higher temps (and generally lower voltages)
 

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1 - Didn't know this was available. I looked into using a single card last year and the prices were prohibitive.

2 - In my notes from last year I see someone advised to "avoid OCZ SSD." lol Not sure why...

3 - The mobo, almost certainly. I sort of knew I'd be looking at downgrading it. Having said that, the choice of Z77 was based on having dual video cards as H77 doesn't support them.

But as far as the CPU goes, the 3570 is only $25 more than the 3350P and seems to have better performance.

http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-3570-vs-Intel-Core-i5-3350P

It will be of value when it comes to compiling visual studio or if I move into data analysis.
 
hre is a quiet build (almost 0db)... stick a few Noctuas in here... and you're set.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($226.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Pro3 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($94.98 @ NCIX)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1333 Memory ($49.99 @ Canada Computers)
Storage: Mushkin Chronos Deluxe 240GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($185.99 @ NCIX)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.99 @ DirectCanada)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($219.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Antec Nine Hundred Two V3 ATX Mid Tower Case ($123.50 @ Vuugo)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 660W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($149.88 @ Canada Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Other: NoFan CR-95C IcePipe Fanless CPU Cooler ($99.95)
Other: ARCTIC Accelero S1 Plus VGA Cooler ($39.99)
Other: ARTIC Accelero Turbo Module ($9.99)
Total: $1440.24
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-23 20:41 EDT-0400)
 

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PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/SDET
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/SDET/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/SDET/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.58 @ DirectCanada)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($71.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Motherboard: ASRock H77 Pro4/MVP ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Memory: Kingston 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($97.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($88.50 @ Vuugo)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 660 2GB Video Card ($209.00 @ Canada Computers)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($64.99 @ NCIX)
Power Supply: SeaSonic G 550W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Optical Drive: Lite-On IHAS324-98 DVD/CD Writer ($26.05 @ Amazon Canada)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $1212.56
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-23 20:42 EDT-0400)
 

g-unit1111

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1. Yeah definitely go for a single card as opposed to dual any day of the week.

2. Why? I know their Sandforce drives were completely problematic. But I've had a Vertex 4 for more than a year now and it's been completely rock solid and I've never had a single issue with it.

3. Yeah but why waste money for a very minute and slight performance bump? I don't really get that site - I've seen those benchmarks and I have yet to understand the criteria behind them.
 

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The thought occurred to me to start off using my existing video cards in the new rig: Radeon 4670 and 4300/4500, both PCIe. They might be fine as is or will at least allow me to figure out what my upgrade needs are in regards to both performance and noise.

So based on that, a cheaper CPU and mobo, taking the OCZ SSD suggestion and reusing existing optical drives, I come up with this:

PCPartPicker part list: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/SLDw
Price breakdown by merchant: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/SLDw/by_merchant/
Benchmarks: http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/SLDw/benchmarks/

CPU: Intel Core i5-3350P 3.1GHz Quad-Core Processor ($187.43 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.99 @ NCIX)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($64.49 @ Newegg Canada)
Storage: OCZ Vertex 4 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($129.79 @ DirectCanada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($94.99 @ DirectCanada)
Case: Antec SOLO II ATX Mid Tower Case ($109.99 @ Canada Computers)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($89.99 @ Memory Express)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Professional SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($144.99 @ Newegg Canada)
Total: $951.66
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-24 13:08 EDT-0400)