3570k bad chip? (high vcore)

icylurk · Apr 24, 2013

Specs:
i5 3570k
gigabyte z77x d3h (f16 uefi - latest stable)
8gb corsair vengeance (1 stick, XMP enabled)
hyper 212 evo

So ive tried for days now to bump up my 3570k to 4.4ghz which i hear is the 'sweet spot' for many with this chip. Got to 4 ghz with vcore @ 1.18v which already seems high compared to other oc-ers on this forum but still reasonable. To get to 4.2ghz i need to give about 1.28v and 4.3 @ 1.35 which as far as i know is crazy high, along with giving me temps touching 100C on prime(@4.3ghz) which is definitely not acceptable. 4.4 @ same vcore fails to boot.

At this point im thinking the chip i bought is just not that good and as far as oc-ing goes, way below average. Though i am willing to admit this is my first time ocing and i might be doing something monumentally wrong. If my chip is indeed bad, i can still get it replaced as im still covered by the 30 day replacement warranty (though it will be an effort), hence this post.

Either way, i definitely need help resolving this.

getochkn · Apr 24, 2013

Overclocking is a bonus, not a right. What are you going to say, my chip won't go this high, I want a new one? That is not a warranty issue.

100c on prime sounds like bad cooling,not the chips fault.

icylurk · Apr 24, 2013

nah, its a straight up replacement. i dont need to state a reason. Dealer did mention i have 30 days to do so through him, else go to intel.
I do agree with what you say about overclocking, but i want to make sure i get the most for my money, specially if i still can. though of course i might end up with something worse.
what i really need to know is , if my chip is below the standards you might have seen around here. i have read about 4.8 @ 1.3v so, it seems to me that it is.

I know cooling is an issue, though mostly because the ambient temperature here is 35C at best. I am working on that though.
Also, my mistake, i get 100c on IBT not prime.

Cons29 · Apr 24, 2013

yeah, you cannot have it replaced just because it does not oc well. although it is an unlocked cpu, i dont think it is mentioned somewhere that there is a guaranteed clocked.
luck plays a part

henydiah · Apr 24, 2013

try fix your cooler maybe too much thermal paste / thick .. for test don't oc let default and ran IBT .. see result if cool you can do OC again

ihog · Apr 24, 2013

Every chip is different, every chip will yield different voltages at OC'd frequencies. If you really want to, you can try and exchange it and you might get a better chip, but it's all in the luck of the draw.

icylurk · Apr 24, 2013

umm, its a 30 day product replacement. like i said, i dont have to to give reasons. i could get a refund if i wanted to. Have already consulted the dealer about this. thats not the issue here, i just need to know if you guys would rate it as an average chip or even below that. Im ok with an average chip, but owning anything less than that will keep me up at night.

icylurk · Apr 24, 2013

Cooling is not a major issue here. at 4ghz @ 1.120 vcore i get a max of 65 c on load.
which is acceptable to me.

icylurk · Apr 24, 2013

another point is that default vcore values on my motherboard seem to be 1.25v when set to auto (fluctuates b/w 1.24-1.27 every time i load defaults in bios - even at stock speeds). Like i said, first oc so dont know if thats normal.
if i leave it on auto @4ghz , it will jump to 1.4v on load.

henydiah · Apr 24, 2013

65C at 1.120v that is .. you need big big cooler maybe Noctua NHD-14 /phantec or water cooler also check your temp in bios if high from standard .. you need update bios ... good luck and keep cool

icylurk · Apr 24, 2013

so the chip running at 4.2 ghz@ 1.35v is not far from normal? will i be able to go higher in the future ? i can only guess right now, but i think ill be at 1.4-1.5v at 4.5-4.6 ghz which is where i want to ultimately get to. will that be ok as a 24*7 oc provided i get a much better cooling system?

henydiah · Apr 24, 2013

the better cooler, of course, will get the cold temperatures, but need to keep Vcore limits. 4.2 ghz@ 1.35v .. is too high, The good you do OC with manual voltage. if do setting with auto vCore + offset, you get will get high vcore result .. good luck

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