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I feel pretty set on this build. Yes, yes... I know Intel will perform better for a few extra dollars. This is my first build and will relinquish this to my father before the launch of ESO and build myself a flagship (or near flagship) Intel/X79 system. No use in trying to talk me out of AMD right now, please. I would just like some input on this build.

Case- Corsair Carbide 500R (not sold on this case but very impressed)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139009

MOBO- ASUS Sabertooth 990FX/Gen3 (mostly sold on this)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131969

GPU- Sapphire Vapor-X 7950 (Sold on 7950, open to suggestions on manufac)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202003

CPU- AMD FX-8350 Vishera (Sold on this, will overclock to 4.8+)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

PSU- Corsair HX750 (not sold on this. More wattage? Different brand? Power Rating? Price?)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139010

SSD- Samsung 840 Pro 256GB (pretty much sold on this)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147193

HDD- Seagate Barracuda 2TB (Not sold here, found the cheapest 2TB)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834

RAM- G.Skill Sniper 16GB 1600 (With the cooler I have I like this, but I keep hearing of cheaper RAM...)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231534

CPU Cooling- Noctua NH-D14 (Sold on this)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835608018



Do I need 3 more case fans since I want to OC? 500R comes with 2 120mm in the front, a 120mm in the back and a 200mm on the side. Has room for one 120-140mm on the bottom and 2 120-140mm on the top. Something like?:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233095

This is my first build. Any advice, recommendations, videos, suggestions are welcome except for, "Build MOAR Intel u noob". I will, just not yet. Main concerns are PSU, RAM and Case. I've read about a week's worth of reviews on the rest and am pretty satisfied.
 
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Yeah, it's cheap. But since you don't plan to keep it for long, it wouldn't matter.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($262.60 @ Newegg)
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Actually you could go intel, for less money.

BUT imo you should wait for haswell before making any new pc purchases if it's not a matter of life and death.



 
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Gaming since I will be keeping it for less than a year. It's mostly for learning to build, learning to OC and to play at near peak performance until the launch of ESO.

And no, I cannot build an X79 system for cheaper and I dont want Z77. I want to build an AMD system and then around December build an X79 system when prices drop on Titan, 3970x etc etc.

I dont want to drop $3k+ on parts that I might ruin or destroy because I've never built a PC before. However, I do want high OC potential and the ability to max out most games UNTIL the launch of games in 2014. As I said, my father will get this to replace his 5 year old XPS when I'm done and feel confident in building/OC a $3k-$5k PC. I've got the money, I dont want to be frivolous and destroy expensive parts but I'm happy-ish with this price point. I'm just looking for veteran advice.
 
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You should take a look on RAM .... with NOCTUA NH-D14 it'll be a hassle to fit the two of them because it's a High-Profile (Heat spreaders).Get a Low-Profile set of RAM instead.

you're spending too much on MB, you could have the same features for LESS money and put that money into a more powerful VGA (7970 for example).

PSU is too much for one VGA unless you plan to CF in the future, other than that a 600w or even 550w would be enough.

BEST LUCK
 
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ESO is not a highly detailed game, it is still an mmo, which means you really will not need a super crazy PC to be able to run this game at max. I would really recommend that you just turn everything down at little in terms of what you need. I'm fairly certain a PC that you put $700-800 in maybe $1000 will perform equal to this, now you can think on that unless you truly need the best of the best then you should ideally be looking around that budget range. Because hey if you never use the full potential of a $1500 PC, then what is the point of spending that much?
 
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The gaming community that I play with specifically seeks out massive PvP, WvW and RvR scenarios in games. Yes a $700 PC will play ESO just fine, but I've learned from GW2, Warhammer and even World of Warcraft when you have 200-500 players in an area at the same time you start seperating the high end from the low end. My brother just bought a pre-built X79 system and my best friend's Z77 outperforms his... UNTIL there are 400 people fighting in the same place, then the X79 barely sputters while the Z77 seems to suck.

I appreciate the concern for my wallet, guys. If only my girlfriend would have that same concern. This is a hobby I'm serious about getting into and I want to build a really epic AMD system so that I can play, learn and pass it on with no problems.
 
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My old $800 pc handles all of those games at 1080p even with hundreds of players online fighting together just fine... I really don't see ESO being more detailed than GW2 (which was horribly optimized to boot) as it looks like WoW right now which was built for any PC. All you really need is a $1K rig if you are truly worried about fps drops or anything but you only legitimately need to spend maybe half to get similar performance. Again this comes from first hand experience, the high and the low blend together even with hundreds of people, don't waste your money for games like these.
 
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Ok. If you have first hand experience then I am hesitant to doubt you guys. Fact of the matter is, I've heard the same thing from many people including my guild.

Then I go on game forums and people talk about 15fps in massive pvp. I look at OC forums and they talk about cooling issues. I originally was just going to upgrade my old Inspiron 570 to play GW2 but as I looked at more and more forums for a new GPU, people would say this bottlenecks that. Then I would get a better this and then that would cause a problem here. This new problem would be solved by adding more of this for better that.

This is the build I ended up with.

If there is a build that will operate GW2 and ESO (you're right, will very likely be the same game in most respects) for $500-600 cheaper I would absolutely take a look at it. Everytime I start building something and check reviews and game forums... my parts list gets more and more expensive in trying to avoid issues.
 
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ksham

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Yeah, it's cheap. But since you don't plan to keep it for long, it wouldn't matter.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor ($129.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: MSI 970A-G46 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($55.25 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card ($262.60 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Source 210 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($44.98 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Corsair Enthusiast 650W 80 PLUS Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($53.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $736.78
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
 
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I've done research and it seems this build will suit my needs. Anything you would change if I could afford a $1k price cap?
 
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