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Playing Windows games using Wine on Ubuntu 13.04

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April 25, 2013 11:03:57 PM

Is this true about someone saying that Wine will never play games and perform the same was as playing the same games on Windows systems? Basicly if you had two the same systems and one had Ubuntu with latest Wine and one had Win 7 will Win 7 allways perform better on Windows games no matter how updated Wine is?


Also with the new Ubuntu 13.04 will that still not perform as good as Windows even if you have the latest drivers and Wine version on Ubuntu?
April 26, 2013 1:59:10 PM

Yes, it is true that Wine will never play/perform the same as Windows as far as games go. Wine is just an emulator for Windows, thus making running windows program, buggy and difficult to configure. Please note that some windows programs/games have been tested to run very well through wine, this is marking an improvement on Wine's part, but is still a ways from running all windows programs smoothly. But if it's gaming you want, steam is developing their library for linux, so as long as you have the hardware, you'll be able to game some titles that are released for Windows through linux very smooth, and sometimes better than windows. Also there is native linux games being developed as we speak.
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April 26, 2013 8:10:43 PM

illdubb said:
Yes, it is true that Wine will never play/perform the same as Windows as far as games go. Wine is just an emulator for Windows, thus making running windows program, buggy and difficult to configure. Please note that some windows programs/games have been tested to run very well through wine, this is marking an improvement on Wine's part, but is still a ways from running all windows programs smoothly. But if it's gaming you want, steam is developing their library for linux, so as long as you have the hardware, you'll be able to game some titles that are released for Windows through linux very smooth, and sometimes better than windows. Also there is native linux games being developed as we speak.


WINE IS NOT AN EMULATOR, its in the name Damnit.
"Instead of simulating internal Windows logic like a virtual machine or emulator, Wine translates Windows API calls into POSIX calls on-the-fly, eliminating the performance and memory penalties of other methods and allowing you to cleanly integrate Windows applications into your desktop."
Of course, this is all reverse engineered. Its a lofty goal to be 100% compatible with windows...
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April 26, 2013 9:42:08 PM

This was suppose to go here. I made a mistake and created a new same topic.


So does that mean that Wine will make my games like WoW and Doom 3, etc will run and perform the same way as if I was playing the games on a Win system with same specs? Basicly if I had two the same PCs and one had Ubuntu 13.04 and one had Win 7 will both run Doom 3, Quake 4, WoW, etc the same? Or are they really going to play close to each other on the fps?
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April 27, 2013 7:31:38 AM

No. It will never be superior than Windows 7 in gaming.
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April 27, 2013 10:13:13 AM

The more popular the game, the more likely it is to work well.
WoW, StarcraftII, Dialbo III run really well under WINE.

Windows of course has the huge advantage of better drivers...
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April 27, 2013 11:31:33 AM

How about The Sims 2,3, Doom 3 or Quake 4? I do like those games still.
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July 3, 2013 3:08:00 PM

Dustin_Broke said:
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So does that mean that Wine will make my games like WoW and Doom 3, etc will run and perform the same way as if I was playing the games on a Win system with same specs? ...


The best way to get an idea of how different programs work using wine is to go to the wine web site at 'www.winehq.org' and click on the AppDB and see the results others are having with an application. For example, 'World of Warcraft' is listed as platinum. The performance would be virtually identical whether you are using wine or windows.

Or you could give it a try and see for yourself. Post your results to the wine application db so others benefit from your work.
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July 3, 2013 8:21:54 PM

The general principle of Windows games always running better in Windows than with Wine in Linux is true. This is largely due to video driver limitations and issues, but Wine itself simply isn't perfect at handling directx. That said, it's not terrible.

I currently use Lubuntu 13.04 64bit on my desktop with an Nvidia GTS450 and their proprietary drivers. It runs old games like Decent FreeSpace and Tribes perfectly. Using Playonlinux, a frontend for Wine, also makes it easy to install games (and Wine itself actually). However, I have not tried any other games with 13.04.

Years ago I played Star Wars Galaxies and World of Warcraft in Slackware Linux using Wine. SWG ran pretty much the same in Linux as it did in Windows, but WoW was noticeably slower and had a few graphical glitches. With this experience, I would imagine that the Sims games will function acceptably using Wine, provided they function at all. Quake actually has an open source native Linux client called Open Arena, which I believe is based on the Quake 2 source. It runs great and has bots you can play against offline. Doom 3 and Quake 4 should be playable with Wine.

The bottom line though is, it's easier and more effective to just dual boot Win7 and Linux. I do almost everything in Linux, but I play pretty much all my Windows games in Windows.
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September 30, 2013 5:07:07 PM

everything here is a crock of crap in my opinion, ive played diablo2 LOD, diablo 3 and WoW on my ubuntu machine via PlayOnLinux and all 3 have had the same graphical look but ran a lot smoother and with much less lag when it came to online play

as far as the issues with d3d, you can actually configure the virtual drives using PlayonLinux to use open gl instead. And i know for a fact that even on Windows diablo 2 ran better with a glide wrapper than directdraw or d3d. ALOT better at that
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September 30, 2013 6:52:03 PM

chrtylee said:
everything here is a crock of crap in my opinion

I would not register into TH just to call someone "crock of crap"...:kaola: 
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October 1, 2013 12:51:52 AM

ex_bubblehead said:
Don't feed the troll.


Feed me instead, send chocolates and cheeses.

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October 3, 2013 9:15:49 AM

Dustin_Broke said:
How about The Sims 2,3, Doom 3 or Quake 4? I do like those games still.


Doom 3 and quake 4 run well on Linux, those engines support OpenGL, which is what Linux uses instead of DirectX. As do nearly all Valve games, like Half-Life, TF, CS, Portal, etc. Their Source engine is designed to run on Linux also. Any game you see on Steam with a Penguin next to it has Linux support.

So, yes those games will run on Linux just fine.

The Sims typically are well followed and run well on Ubuntu through WINE as well.

The only games that would have major challenges are DX11 compatible games, because WINE has not yet been able to integrate a way to convert those calls...(OpenGL does not yet fully support all DX11 features).
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