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April 27, 2013 8:04:47 AM

Hey guys!

I just wanted to ask a quickie.
I want to buy a new AMD bundle for gaming and just general CAD software.
I am on the budget - £150 to £200 (preferably about £170)
Processor - Quad Core Q8200
RAM - 6GB DDR2 (x3 sticks)
GPU - ATi Radeon 1GB GDDR5 7770 OC
Motherboard - ASUS P5QL Pro
MY SPECS ^^^ (didn't mentiom before)

I was interested in the Octacore or six-core but I need a bit more input since all these numbers are just flying at me.

Thanks alot guys! (OR Shall I got for the 3220 bundle with 8gb RAM)

Ebay link to i3 - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ASUS-P8H61-MX-USB3-Intel-Dual...

But there are cheaper bundles but the same as that, that is just a rough link

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April 27, 2013 8:18:41 AM

The i3 you link to is a micro-ATX so your upgrade options are limited. Only 2 RAM slots, one GPU and no HDMI. Also, the i3 does not have hyper threading so it will not have any advantages in CAD. The 6-core or 8-core AMD will be a better option in this case. The 4-core 8200 is very slow compared to even the 2-core, 2-thread i3. About half as much performance. If you want 3 sticks of RAM you should be looking at a full ATX motherboard. I think a 6-core FX 6100 might be your sweet spot and compliments the 7770 card quite well.

You could save a few bucks buying the bundles, but you will have more options with buying each item separate. And if some of the items have a rebate, they may even be less. For example, you could get the 6100 and motherboard in a combo and buy the 7770 separate so you can get the 2 GB version.

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April 27, 2013 8:19:47 AM
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (£84.95 @ Aria PC)
Motherboard: Asus M5A97 LE R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (£62.98 @ Dabs)
Memory: Corsair XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£32.99 @ Amazon UK)
Total: £180.92
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-27 16:19 BST+0100)

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April 27, 2013 8:22:55 AM

Anonymous said:
The i3 you link to is a micro-ATX so your upgrade options are limited. Only 2 RAM slots, one GPU and no HDMI. Also, the i3 does not have hyper threading so it will not have any advantages in CAD. The 6-core or 8-core AMD will be a better option in this case. The 4-core 8200 is very slow compared to even the 2-core, 2-thread i3. About half as much performance. If you want 3 sticks of RAM you should be looking at a full ATX motherboard. I think a 6-core FX 6100 might be your sweet spot and compliments the 7770 card quite well.


Who in the world have told u that i3 doesn't have HT ????
Please don't give false information .

And by the way , FX-6100 is CRAP and TOTAL WASTE of money, never ever consider a Bulldozer CPU.
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April 27, 2013 8:28:48 AM

Also, the i3 does not have hyper threading so it will not have any advantages in CAD.

o_O
Intel would disagree with that.
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April 27, 2013 8:30:52 AM

yasserBasha said:
Anonymous said:
The i3 you link to is a micro-ATX so your upgrade options are limited. Only 2 RAM slots, one GPU and no HDMI. Also, the i3 does not have hyper threading so it will not have any advantages in CAD. The 6-core or 8-core AMD will be a better option in this case. The 4-core 8200 is very slow compared to even the 2-core, 2-thread i3. About half as much performance. If you want 3 sticks of RAM you should be looking at a full ATX motherboard. I think a 6-core FX 6100 might be your sweet spot and compliments the 7770 card quite well.


Who in the world have told u that i3 doesn't have HT ????
Please don't give false information .

And by the way , FX-6100 is CRAP and TOTAL WASTE of money, never ever consider a Bulldozer CPU.


My, bad, I was thinking of a different CPU the i5. I should have looked it up. But, I would still look for a full ATX board since you need more RAM. Get whatever you feel is best and doesn't waste your money.
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April 27, 2013 8:32:30 AM

ok, never mind ... but i think the build above is still better
April 27, 2013 8:33:08 AM

hi mate

u should look around the net before buying any computers parts not just from ebay its not the best place to buy

here some some site to look at
scan.co.uk
overclockers.co.uk
dabs.co.uk

for what you want i3 wont do much for gaming to weak for today games and you dont know what ram your getting from the link you posted

you said you want a six core well i looked on scan.co.uk and got this for you

CPU - AMD FX6300 @3.5 - £100.36
M/B - Asus M5A78L-M LX3 - £36.94
RAM- Corsair Memory Vengeance Blue 8GB DDR3 1600 - £51.36

all that plus posting (which is next day) come to £199.64

or get a fx 4170 is cheaper and good for gaming at - £98.89

if you got that GPU (7770) all you need is a 550 watts psu with a 6/8 pin gpu to power the gpu

i hope this help you
simj

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April 27, 2013 8:48:44 AM

simjracer said:
hi mate

u should look around the net before buying any computers parts not just from ebay its not the best place to buy

here some some site to look at
scan.co.uk
overclockers.co.uk
dabs.co.uk

for what you want i3 wont do much for gaming to weak for today games and you dont know what ram your getting from the link you posted

you said you want a six core well i looked on scan.co.uk and got this for you

CPU - AMD FX6300 @3.5 - £100.36
M/B - Asus M5A78L-M LX3 - £36.94
RAM- Corsair Memory Vengeance Blue 8GB DDR3 1600 - £51.36

all that plus posting (which is next day) come to £199.64

or get a fx 4170 is cheaper and good for gaming at - £98.89

if you got that GPU (7770) all you need is a 550 watts psu with a 6/8 pin gpu to power the gpu

i hope this help you
simj



http://www.aria.co.uk/Products/Components/Processors/AM...


http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B009O7YORK/?tag=pcp0f-21

The 6300 is more powerful and cheaper than 4170, and also the MB is junk and waste of your money.

I really hate to sound like a broken record ... but never ever consider a BULLDOZER cpu

Also 7770 needs only 450w-500w PSU according to Sapphire & AMD websites, and that's only if you are OC'ing your CPU and GPU to the roof and has 20 sata drive connected with 10+ applications open on a 24/7 system.

The 350w PSU is enough to run a 7850 not only 7770, the card itself draws around 80-100W in full load

http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2012/02/15/am...

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/msi_radeon_hd_7770...

you'll be fine with your PSU AsadP2012 .
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