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Here my design, what do you all think, anything I should change?
I5 3570
8GB corsair 1600 mhz vengeance (4GBx2)
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 ti 1GB
Asus P8Z77-V LX2
500GB S-ATAlll 6.0Gb/s
Microsoft windows 7 home premium 64-bit
Zalmon Z11 plus
450w corsair VS
22x DVD+RW DL S-ATA
Onboard 7.1 audio
One more thing. Does anyone one know a percific amount that this will cost because I have a rough estimate of £675 but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong.
Thanks guys
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  1. It looks fine for mid range and with Windows the price is in the ballpark. Any changes would be a GPU with 2GB Vram, maybe 650Ti boost, and to I5 3570K if you want to overclock.
  2. For gaming? Depends. The GPU is weak for intense games. Also, why a Z77 motherboard if you are not overclocking? (chose 3570 not 3570k)

    To make it better for gaming. Grab a i5-3470 + H77 motherboard, 500W PSU, Nvidia 660.
  3. rolli59 said:
    It looks fine for mid range and with Windows the price is in the ballpark. Any changes would be a GPU with 2GB Vram, maybe 650Ti boost, and to I5 3570K if you want to overclock.


    Im not planning on overclocking so I don't have to buy a CPU cooler so it's a bit cheaper. I was thinking about getting the GTX 650 ti boost depending on how much the monitor,keyboard,mouse and speakers cost as I don't want to spend anymore than £800. Thanks for the input by the way.
  4. Kingfirespark said:
    rolli59 said:
    It looks fine for mid range and with Windows the price is in the ballpark. Any changes would be a GPU with 2GB Vram, maybe 650Ti boost, and to I5 3570K if you want to overclock.


    Im not planning on overclocking so I don't have to buy a CPU cooler so it's a bit cheaper. I was thinking about getting the GTX 650 ti boost depending on how much the monitor,keyboard,mouse and speakers cost as I don't want to spend anymore than £800. Thanks for the input by the way.

    Then you can save some on the motherboard and go with H77 board as suggested above.
  5. Kingfirespark said:
    Here my design, what do you all think, anything I should change?
    I5 3570
    8GB corsair 1600 mhz vengeance (4GBx2)
    NVIDIA GeForce GTX 650 ti 1GB
    Asus P8Z77-V LX2
    500GB S-ATAlll 6.0Gb/s
    Microsoft windows 7 home premium 64-bit
    Zalmon Z11 plus
    450w corsair VS
    22x DVD+RW DL S-ATA
    Onboard 7.1 audio
    One more thing. Does anyone one know a percific amount that this will cost because I have a rough estimate of £675 but I'm pretty sure I'm wrong.
    Thanks guys


    You are spending more to get a Z77 motherboard. If you want the 3570 non-k, a H77 board will do. If you do get the Z77, you might as well get the 3570k for about $15 more since one of the only differences is that the Z77 board allows you to overclock.

    like the other poster suggested, the extra $30 or $40 on a 650ti 2GB version is worth looking into. There are two 2GB models, a 128-bit and a 192-bit. The 192-bit is the one that will be $30 to $40 more and is also well worth it.

    Everything else is good quality stuff, what is your hard disk? Solid state or mechanical? 500GB may be a bit on the small side especially if you plan on installing newer games which can require upwards of 16 GB. Star Wars the Old Republic, for example, takes up 21 GB of HDD space and most new games are a minimum of 8 GB.
  6. Kingfirespark said:
    rolli59 said:
    It looks fine for mid range and with Windows the price is in the ballpark. Any changes would be a GPU with 2GB Vram, maybe 650Ti boost, and to I5 3570K if you want to overclock.


    Im not planning on overclocking so I don't have to buy a CPU cooler so it's a bit cheaper. I was thinking about getting the GTX 650 ti boost depending on how much the monitor,keyboard,mouse and speakers cost as I don't want to spend anymore than £800. Thanks for the input by the way.

    Then you can save some on the motherboard and go with H77 board as suggested above.
  7. envy14tpe said:
    For gaming? Depends. The GPU is weak for intense games. Also, why a Z77 motherboard if you are not overclocking? (chose 3570 not 3570k)

    To make it better for gaming. Grab a i5-3470 + H77 motherboard, 500W PSU, Nvidia 660.


    I need it for to be quick as well for my school work as I got GCSE's coming up so I want the i5 3570, which would be a better motherboard for it. I'm mainly going to be playing the total war games and the GTX 650 ti can handle it well enough I thing but I might change it to a better one.
  8. The I5 3570 is going to perform exactly the same in H77 or Z77 board.
  9. rolli59 said:
    The I5 3570 is going to perform exactly the same in H77 or Z77 board.


    I'll get the H77 board then with the 2GB GTX 650 ti. Do I need 500w or will 450w do.
  10. Everything else is good quality stuff, what is your hard disk? Solid state or mechanical? 500GB may be a bit on the small side especially if you plan on installing newer games which can require upwards of 16 GB. Star Wars the Old Republic, for example, takes up 21 GB of HDD space and most new games are a minimum of 8 GB.

    I'm not sure which it is but I'll only be playing the total war games so a 500GB I might just get away with but I'll looking into how much more a 1TB gona cost
  11. rolli59 said:
    The I5 3570 is going to perform exactly the same in H77 or Z77 board.


    Is this the motherboard your all saying to get:
    P8H77-V LE
  12. Kingfirespark said:
    rolli59 said:
    The I5 3570 is going to perform exactly the same in H77 or Z77 board.


    Is this the motherboard your all saying to get:
    P8H77-V LE

    Yes, we ONLY recommend it cuz you are not overclocking. And not doing so, saves money cuz you don't need a more expensive Z77 motherboard.

    500W is safer. You need to make sure the power is enough so add a bit.
    For the price, this is a good one. And modular so you can reduce cable if you like.
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139050

    Are you getting the 650ti or 650ti boost?
  13. Kingfirespark said:
    rolli59 said:
    The I5 3570 is going to perform exactly the same in H77 or Z77 board.


    Is this the motherboard your all saying to get:
    P8H77-V LE


    Yes, actually any H77 board with at least one PCIe 3.0 x16 slot will do. "H77" and "Z77" are just the code names for the chipset given to them by Intel. I actually saw a similar combo on newegg today to what you originally posted. Same CPU, Mobo, RAM size, but it comes with an aftermarket CPU cooler and a 2TB HDD. You could always change the Z77 to the H77 and it will go from $607 to about $570:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1244442&cm_sp=DailyDeal-_-1244442-_-Combo

    EDIT: I think you have to get the exact parts in the combo to save the $50. Otherwise, it'll be $660. If anything it gives you a good idea of the price range.

    EDIT 2: I was wrong on the combo final price. If you add it to cart, it comes out to $538 + $3.86 s/h plus another $15 mail in rebate. At $525, that is a steal. In this case, the Z77 vs H77 is a moot point. The Z77 will allow for future upgrades when the i7 3770k prices go down.
  14. Buy separate components that you want. Combos usually are weak in something. The above combo doesn't include a GPU, and has 16GB RAM which is too much (waste of money).
  15. Damn, I just realized you are posting your currency in Pounds not dollars. I'm pretty sure newegg doesn't ship to the UK. Maybe find a relative in the U.S. or a buddy to deliver the parts to. LOL that would probably cost more than you'll save. I guess it is just a reference for you then.
  16. Kingfirespark said:
    rolli59 said:
    The I5 3570 is going to perform exactly the same in H77 or Z77 board.


    Is this the motherboard your all saying to get:
    P8H77-V LE

    Yes basically any board at your liking with H77 chipset.
  17. envy14tpe said:
    Buy separate components that you want. Combos usually are weak in something. The above combo doesn't include a GPU, and has 16GB RAM which is too much (waste of money).


    I'm not buying the parts of the Internet. I'm actually customising the pc at a place where a live incase there are any problem. I'm just using the Internet to find out the prices roughly. And yeah I agree 16GB is too much, a 8GB will do, I'm going to get a H77 motherboard, try upgrade the memory to 750GB and get a GTX 650 ti boost I think. Do motherboards matter a lot cause I might just get the cheapest H77 motherboard?
  18. Kingfirespark said:
    envy14tpe said:
    Buy separate components that you want. Combos usually are weak in something. The above combo doesn't include a GPU, and has 16GB RAM which is too much (waste of money).


    I'm not buying the parts of the Internet. I'm actually customising the pc at a place where a live incase there are any problem. I'm just using the Internet to find out the prices roughly. And yeah I agree 16GB is too much, a 8GB will do, I'm going to get a H77 motherboard, try upgrade the memory to 750GB and get a GTX 650 ti boost I think. Do motherboards matter a lot cause I might just get the cheapest H77 motherboard?

    Performance is decided by CPU and GPU mostly, motherboards have different features and are of different quality so that is the biggest concern when choosing a board.
  19. rolli59 said:
    Kingfirespark said:
    envy14tpe said:
    Buy separate components that you want. Combos usually are weak in something. The above combo doesn't include a GPU, and has 16GB RAM which is too much (waste of money).


    I'm not buying the parts of the Internet. I'm actually customising the pc at a place where a live incase there are any problem. I'm just using the Internet to find out the prices roughly. And yeah I agree 16GB is too much, a 8GB will do, I'm going to get a H77 motherboard, try upgrade the memory to 750GB and get a GTX 650 ti boost I think. Do motherboards matter a lot cause I might just get the cheapest H77 motherboard?

    Performance is decided by CPU and GPU mostly, motherboards have different features and are of different quality so that is the biggest concern when choosing a board.


    What are the features to look out for when buying a motherboard
  20. Mostly connectivity that it has all the connectors and slots that your other hardware needs as well for future upgrades.
  21. rolli59 said:
    Mostly connectivity that it has all the connectors and slots that your other hardware needs as well for future upgrades.


    Ok thanks
  22. Can you list your updated build?
  23. Kingfirespark said:
    rolli59 said:
    Kingfirespark said:
    envy14tpe said:
    Buy separate components that you want. Combos usually are weak in something. The above combo doesn't include a GPU, and has 16GB RAM which is too much (waste of money).


    I'm not buying the parts of the Internet. I'm actually customising the pc at a place where a live incase there are any problem. I'm just using the Internet to find out the prices roughly. And yeah I agree 16GB is too much, a 8GB will do, I'm going to get a H77 motherboard, try upgrade the memory to 750GB and get a GTX 650 ti boost I think. Do motherboards matter a lot cause I might just get the cheapest H77 motherboard?

    Performance is decided by CPU and GPU mostly, motherboards have different features and are of different quality so that is the biggest concern when choosing a board.


    What are the features to look out for when buying a motherboard


    Since you are getting a discrete GPU, the video connections don't matter. More expensive boards come with HDMI and display port. You might even consider a mini-ATX or micro-ATX board with just D-Sub VGA and DVI. The cheapest boards usually have only 2 RAM slots which is plenty for 2x 4GB sticks dual channel. One good feature to have, since the Ivy Bridge supports it, is USB 3.0. Also, if it has eSATA that is a plus but USB 3.0 is just as fast. As for built in audio, they are mostly all the same. The low end boards usually have 3 plugs: input, output and mic. If you are using HDMI through your GTX 650ti, that won't matter either. The sound is still processed by the motherboard though, GPUs don't have an audio chipset they just port it over from the motherboard. The P8H77-M LE is a good consideration as it is basic (one PCIe 3.0 x16, 2 DDR3 slots, only 1x case fan plug, no eSATA, 3 port audio) but has all the options you need such as USB 3.0 and 6x SATA plugs (only 2 are 6.0 GB/s):

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131964
  24. What are the features to look out for when buying a motherboard


    Since you are getting a discrete GPU, the video connections don't matter. More expensive boards come with HDMI and display port. You might even consider a mini-ATX or micro-ATX board with just D-Sub VGA and DVI. The cheapest boards usually have only 2 RAM slots which is plenty for 2x 4GB sticks dual channel. One good feature to have, since the Ivy Bridge supports it, is USB 3.0. Also, if it has eSATA that is a plus but USB 3.0 is just as fast. As for built in audio, they are mostly all the same. The low end boards usually have 3 plugs: input, output and mic. If you are using HDMI through your GTX 650ti, that won't matter either. The sound is still processed by the motherboard though, GPUs don't have an audio chipset they just port it over from the motherboard. The P8H77-M LE is a good consideration as it is basic (one PCIe 3.0 x16, 2 DDR3 slots, only 1x case fan plug, no eSATA, 3 port audio) but has all the options you need such as USB 3.0 and 6x SATA plugs (only 2 are 6.0 GB/s):

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131964[/
    Thanks that helped a lot. I've just decided to go to that part picker to type the parts in. Some parts I've changed and some kept same. What would you say about the motherboard I've chosen and if there anything on they that can make it cheaper I don't need please will you do that and repost the link then. Thanks your amazing for helping.

    http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
  25. http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/


    Your welcome. The link you posted, the list is empty. You could press print screen, then open Paint and paste and save it as a .jpg, then upload the pic with your comment. Or just type it, lol.
  26. Anonymous said:
    http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/


    Your welcome. The link you posted, the list is empty. You could press print screen, then open Paint and paste and save it as a .jpg, then upload the pic with your comment. Or just type it, lol.


    I think I sent you the wrong link. Now it should work, if not I do what you've just said to do. Please can you just have a look at it and change anything I dont need and see if there's anyway to make it abit cheaper. Thanks
  27. Anonymous said:
    http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/


    Your welcome. The link you posted, the list is empty. You could press print screen, then open Paint and paste and save it as a .jpg, then upload the pic with your comment. Or just type it, lol.


    The link
    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TzDD
    I forgot to put it in lol
  28. Best answer
    Kingfirespark said:
    Anonymous said:
    http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/


    Your welcome. The link you posted, the list is empty. You could press print screen, then open Paint and paste and save it as a .jpg, then upload the pic with your comment. Or just type it, lol.


    The link
    http://pcpartpicker.com/p/TzDD
    I forgot to put it in lol


    The link is good. That is a very nice case, lol, I have the same one. You might also consider a few extra fans. That case has room for 3 more. There is a slot for a 4th, but usually the PSU will block it. Windows 7 Home Premium is a good choice over Win 7 Pro or Win 8 (for now). The GTX 650ti you selected is still the 128-bit version. An EVGA 192-bit version on newegg is on sale for $149 ATM making it the same exact price as the 128-bit Asus:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130915

    Really, the only difference between an Asus and an EVGA is the heatsink and fan. EVGA uses the reference HS/F with only one fan.

    The motherboard is a full ATX and has a few ports which you will never use such as the HDMI and other video ports and possibly the RAM slots. But it does give you the option to upgrade your RAM up to 32 GB in the future. You also could theoretically add a 2nd GPU in the PCIe 2.0 x16 slot, but I believe that depends on whether you get the 192-bit 650ti or not. From looking at the details of both cards, the 192-bit card supports SLI and the 128-bit card does not.

    The parts list as it stands is perfectly fine is you are not planning to upgrade anything other than the RAM. If you do not even plan on ever upgrading the RAM, then a u-ATC or m-ATX board would save you an additional $30 to $40 and will do as good a job as a full ATX with all your other parts. You could even save a few more on a more compact case, but the Z9 plus has such good airflow.
  29. The link is good. That is a very nice case, lol, I have the same one. You might also consider a few extra fans. That case has room for 3 more. There is a slot for a 4th, but usually the PSU will block it. Windows 7 Home Premium is a good choice over Win 7 Pro or Win 8 (for now). The GTX 650ti you selected is still the 128-bit version. An EVGA 192-bit version on newegg is on sale for $149 ATM making it the same exact price as the 128-bit Asus:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130915

    Really, the only difference between an Asus and an EVGA is the heatsink and fan. EVGA uses the reference HS/F with only one fan.

    The motherboard is a full ATX and has a few ports which you will never use such as the HDMI and other video ports and possibly the RAM slots. But it does give you the option to upgrade your RAM up to 32 GB in the future. You also could theoretically add a 2nd GPU in the PCIe 2.0 x16 slot, but I believe that depends on whether you get the 192-bit 650ti or not. From looking at the details of both cards, the 192-bit card supports SLI and the 128-bit card does not.

    The parts list as it stands is perfectly fine is you are not planning to upgrade anything other than the RAM. If you do not even plan on ever upgrading the RAM, then a u-ATC or m-ATX board would save you an additional $30 to $40 and will do as good a job as a full ATX with all your other parts. You could even save a few more on a more compact case, but the Z9 plus has such good airflow.


    Thanks :) I'll just make them changes then
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