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so... why buy an APU if you don't use it's integrated graphics?

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April 28, 2013 7:57:06 PM

Title says it all.
April 28, 2013 8:00:59 PM

Not being properly educated on all products prior to purchasing one?
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April 28, 2013 8:03:33 PM

nbelote said:
Not being properly educated on all products prior to purchasing one?


Heh, that's funny.

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April 28, 2013 8:47:09 PM

Well generally amds apus are cheaper than the fx processors.
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April 28, 2013 8:53:11 PM

why even post this thread?
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April 29, 2013 5:09:33 AM

why? Becuase I want to know if there is any reason when you don't use the integrated graphics. Isn't that clear?
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April 29, 2013 5:19:22 AM

DukeOvilla said:
why? Becuase I want to know if there is any reason when you don't use the integrated graphics. Isn't that clear?


Yes, that user is being silly.

Another reason could be that they want to still be able to use their computer, for non-graphic intensive things such as Internet browsing, email, typing up documents, etc. in case their graphics card dies.
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April 29, 2013 5:25:45 AM

You're kinda missing the point.

Take an APU A-10, compared to the FX8350. If I don't use the integrated graphics, what's the difference in the end, architecture wise. Which would preform better with the same GPU.
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April 29, 2013 5:29:08 AM

Obviously, the FX-8350. But you asked why, and I gave you a reason.
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April 29, 2013 5:34:02 AM

Good reason, similar question, but still not exactly the one I asked.
I guess comparing it to the FX8350 was not the best idea.

So, there is no reason, APUs are just for the budget folk?
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April 29, 2013 5:34:23 AM

DukeOvilla said:
You're kinda missing the point.

Take an APU A-10, compared to the FX8350. If I don't use the integrated graphics, what's the difference in the end, architecture wise. Which would preform better with the same GPU.


perhaps they want a PC capable of gaming out of the box with the APU and then plan to add a dedicated card down the line.

perhaps they won't hold onto the PC for that long and plan to use it as an HTPC, family PC, etc., and will simply move the dedicated card to another gaming build.

perhaps someone sold them the CPU & mobo for a fraction of the going cost

you don't post any specific person or reason so there could be numerous reasons

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April 29, 2013 5:40:00 AM

let me make this crystal clear.

A man is looking for a CPU, he has 200$. He can go with either the APU or the FX processor, and assorted mobo. He will use the same Nividia GPU either way. Are there any reasons to buy the APU?
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April 29, 2013 5:44:17 AM

DukeOvilla said:
let me make this crystal clear.

A man is looking for a CPU, he has 200$. He can go with either the APU or the FX processor, and assorted mobo. He will use the same Nividia GPU either way. Are there any reasons to buy the APU?


maybe he just wants to piss you off and the $200 is worth the effort for him

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April 29, 2013 6:01:16 AM

So, there is none.......
I though so.
heheheh
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April 29, 2013 6:03:26 AM

There are many reasons, but they aren't reasons you think you are acceptable.
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April 29, 2013 6:12:07 AM

I don't see any.......
Care to expound?
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April 29, 2013 6:15:43 AM

"perhaps they won't hold onto the PC for that long and plan to use it as an HTPC, family PC, etc., and will simply move the dedicated card to another gaming build."

"Another reason could be that they want to still be able to use their computer, for non-graphic intensive things such as Internet browsing, email, typing up documents, etc. in case their graphics card dies."

"Not being properly educated on all products prior to purchasing one?"
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April 29, 2013 6:21:08 AM

#3 goes ,the other 2 get shot down in flames. They don't answer my EXACT question. I was speaking in comparative terms.
You get cookie for trying.
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April 29, 2013 10:20:34 AM

But those reasons still hold up. Your real question is:

"Is the A10 5800K or the FX 8350 better with a dedicated Nvidia card?"
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April 29, 2013 10:48:38 AM

If a person intends to use discrete graphics mid range or hi end then yes its better to go for FX cpu rather than A10.However its not really a big deal even if A10 is used as its still a pretty decent and capable quad core cpu which goes to to toe with an i3 and also is more future proof than an i3 for obvious reasons.
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May 5, 2013 12:03:48 PM

DukeOvilla said:
let me make this crystal clear.

A man is looking for a CPU, he has 200$. He can go with either the APU or the FX processor, and assorted mobo. He will use the same Nividia GPU either way. Are there any reasons to buy the APU?


But then you have a man who only had $230 at the time and wanted a decent motherboard such as the a85x chipset which supports 3 way crossfire and so on, and then he ended up buying a gpu later. lol it happened to me! Im rocking the A10-5800K with a GTX 660, and if you're gaming, it's not going to affect what you are doing at all, it works really good actually. but if you are using it for video editing and audio production which uses a lot more of your cpu for rendering, i would definitely go with something else that has more cores or more threads. Disabling the igpu helps the cpu a lot. i have a thermaltake water2.0 pro and at 4.2ghz w/ the igpu on i get like 29c idle 35c full load. with the igpu off at 4.7ghz i get 23c idle, and 29 full load
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May 5, 2013 4:03:22 PM

George Morris said:
DukeOvilla said:
let me make this crystal clear.

A man is looking for a CPU, he has 200$. He can go with either the APU or the FX processor, and assorted mobo. He will use the same Nividia GPU either way. Are there any reasons to buy the APU?


But then you have a man who only had $230 at the time and wanted a decent motherboard such as the a85x chipset which supports 3 way crossfire and so on, and then he ended up buying a gpu later. lol it happened to me! Im rocking the A10-5800K with a GTX 660, and if you're gaming, it's not going to affect what you are doing at all, it works really good actually. but if you are using it for video editing and audio production which uses a lot more of your cpu for rendering, i would definitely go with something else that has more cores or more threads. Disabling the igpu helps the cpu a lot. i have a thermaltake water2.0 pro and at 4.2ghz w/ the igpu on i get like 29c idle 35c full load. with the igpu off at 4.7ghz i get 23c idle, and 29 full load

Welcome to Tom's. HAve a nice stay. :) 
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May 5, 2013 4:03:22 PM

George Morris said:
DukeOvilla said:
let me make this crystal clear.

A man is looking for a CPU, he has 200$. He can go with either the APU or the FX processor, and assorted mobo. He will use the same Nividia GPU either way. Are there any reasons to buy the APU?


But then you have a man who only had $230 at the time and wanted a decent motherboard such as the a85x chipset which supports 3 way crossfire and so on, and then he ended up buying a gpu later. lol it happened to me! Im rocking the A10-5800K with a GTX 660, and if you're gaming, it's not going to affect what you are doing at all, it works really good actually. but if you are using it for video editing and audio production which uses a lot more of your cpu for rendering, i would definitely go with something else that has more cores or more threads. Disabling the igpu helps the cpu a lot. i have a thermaltake water2.0 pro and at 4.2ghz w/ the igpu on i get like 29c idle 35c full load. with the igpu off at 4.7ghz i get 23c idle, and 29 full load

Welcome to Tom's. HAve a nice stay. :) 
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May 5, 2013 5:05:24 PM

Really, APUs are meant for smaller form factors. At least in my mind with AMD. Look at the Wii U and PS4 (when the body is revealed). Look at all of the tablet PCs. Or even a home theater system. Sometimes it helps with the budget. APUs are really cool because pretty soon I think dedicated GPU will no longer be the norm (kinda how like the way tablets took over PCs).

Under normal circumstances, I'd say don't get one (an APU) and just get a seperate GPU.

An APU is excellent if you are making a HomeTheater PC or you are making a small kitchen PC that needs to be capable without breaking the bank.

A lot of PC manufacturers use APUs in computers at the $500 range too.
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