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April 28, 2013 8:49:16 PM

My friend needed a budget PC under $450 no OS. Heres what i came up with: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/PhoKingTasty/saved/1wUk

Could this run planetside 2?

Also, whats up with quad core AMD processors being so dam cheap? The i5 3350p i have is like $70 more and its quad core too. Does that mean the AMD one is much slower?

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April 28, 2013 8:53:15 PM

It will play planet side 2 at low-medium settings
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April 28, 2013 8:58:41 PM

There are definitely a few things to consider here. I play Planetside 2 daily and so do many of my friends.

Planetside 2 is by far the most CPU intensive game I've encountered. There can literally be hundreds of people and explosions crammed into a very small area at any given time. This means that while some lower end CPUs will give you decent performance some of the time, during big battles they totally choke.

My best friend's rig was a Phenom II x4 that we overclocked to 3.9GHz. It still dropped into the low 20's during big battles to the point of being unplayable. It doesn't matter what settings you are playing on.

So the short answer is no, it won't play Planetside 2. At least not in any big battles (most of them are).

My friend upgraded to an FX-8350 and while it's better, it still has frame drops into the low 30's very regularly.

The only way to get smooth frame rates is to go with an Intel i5. Yeah the AMD chip is way slower.


Graphically, Planetside is pretty light so you'll be fine with the 7770 for mediumish settings.

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April 28, 2013 9:10:03 PM

JD88 said:
There are definitely a few things to consider here. I play Planetside 2 daily and so do many of my friends.

Planetside 2 is by far the most CPU intensive game I've encountered. There can literally be hundreds of people and explosions crammed into a very small area at any given time. This means that while some lower end CPUs will give you decent performance some of the time, during big battles they totally choke.

My best friend's rig was a Phenom II x4 that we overclocked to 3.9GHz. It still dropped into the low 20's during big battles to the point of being unplayable. It doesn't matter what settings you are playing on.

So the short answer is no, it won't play Planetside 2. At least not in any big battles (most of them are).

My friend upgraded to an FX-8350 and while it's better, it still has frame drops into the low 30's very regularly.

The only way to get smooth frame rates is to go with an Intel i5. Yeah the AMD chip is way slower.


Graphically, Planetside is pretty light so you'll be fine with the 7770.



i somewhat agree with you. I can run planetside on medium settings with my rig because its not optimized for amd cpu's. However my friend with a 3rd gen i7 and 560m gpu gets much worse performance despite having a better cpu.

The amd cpu you chose is slower then the i5, because its cheaper, older, and single threaded performance isnt as good. However for a lot of applications it will not be bad at all, and for a budget build yours looks good. I dont play planetside, i dont like it and i think that it isnt programmed very well, but thats just me..
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April 28, 2013 9:14:15 PM

I guess that explains why the thing was so cheap.

Would an i5 3350p be sufficient? I'll try and convince my friend to put down the extra money for one if it is worth it.
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April 28, 2013 9:16:54 PM

guitargod213 said:

i somewhat agree with you. I can run planetside on medium settings with my rig because its not optimized for amd cpu's. However my friend with a 3rd gen i7 and 560m gpu gets much worse performance despite having a better cpu.

The amd cpu you chose is slower then the i5, because its cheaper, older, and single threaded performance isnt as good. However for a lot of applications it will not be bad at all, and for a budget build yours looks good. I dont play planetside, i dont like it and i think that it isnt programmed very well, but thats just me..


That's interesting because my 2500K and my friends 3770K run it very well at 55+ FPS all the time. We also have ours overclocked to 4.6 and 4.2 respectively though.

Sorry to hear that you don't like Planetside. I think it's an amazing concept and a great game. No other FPS comes close in terms of sheer scale or the degree to which strategy and coordination is necessary. There are still bugs to get worked out, but the game has improved tremendously stability wise since beta.

Also, running a game doesn't necessarily mean achieving playable and stable frame rates, which for me in a FPS are 45+. AMD CPUs run the game ok some of the time, but have big performance dips in processor intensive scenarios like huge battles involving many players just like they do in any CPU intensive game.
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April 28, 2013 9:19:08 PM

GrannySmith1 said:
I guess that explains why the thing was so cheap.

Would an i5 3350p be sufficient? I'll try and convince my friend to put down the extra money for one if it is worth it.


Yeah the 3350p is the lowest I would go. It should be alright. The 3630QM in my Y400 laptop gives me playable frame-rates in the mid 40's and it has about the same clock frequency as the 3350P. Performance should be comparable.

Also, I want to reiterate that I'm not down talking the Phenom because I think it's a great CPU for the money and suggest it often on these forums for budget builds. It's just in this one particular case and game, AMD CPUs aren't the tool for the job.
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April 29, 2013 4:52:47 AM

You should probably save a little more and get a better psu. Unfortunately nobody mentioned this in their answers. Look into corsair, seasonic, xfx and silverstone.
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