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April 30, 2013 6:17:14 AM

Hoping nothing stand out wrong with this gaming build for 1680x1050 res in planetside 2 / Battlefield 3

No intensions to OC at all.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/U0GI

Any help and suggestions welcomed.
April 30, 2013 6:47:58 AM

For £1000, that build looks very good.

However I have to mention by not choosing an K series processor and Z77 mobo is the equivalent, you are straight up shooting yourself in the foot. Overclocking on sandy/ivy is incredibly easy to do, and yields wonderful benefits. With GPUs it is free performance and with CPU's it's a very cheap performance boost.

You could add a 3570K and a Z77 board and still remain within the £1K budget and leave overclocking for a while.
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April 30, 2013 7:04:59 AM

Optimus_Toaster said:
For £1000, that build looks very good.

However I have to mention by not choosing an K series processor and Z77 mobo is the equivalent, you are straight up shooting yourself in the foot. Overclocking on sandy/ivy is incredibly easy to do, and yields wonderful benefits. With GPUs it is free performance and with CPU's it's a very cheap performance boost.

You could add a 3570K and a Z77 board and still remain within the £1K budget and leave overclocking for a while.


My original build did have the above overclocking option with a h60 cooler, but i got too paranoid about a water leak ruining expensive build and with added expense (£1200 ish) decided against. I also considered Hyper 212 EVO but watching people install these makes me cringe like hell.

I certainly would be interested in what Z77 board you would suggest because prices i see far exceed the h77 board above.

Is most likely better to have option to oc in future for a bit extra as apose to not at all.

Thanks for feedback.


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April 30, 2013 7:07:11 AM

Noob12 said:
Remember also that is not shooting in our own leg if you buy xeon 1230V2. It is way much faster CPU than 3570k.
It is only 100MHz slower than 3770. It is as fast as the 2011 3820 and that is really fast. It is HT (hyper treading)
And it is cheap. , like I7 for a price i5. And it do have 8 treads 3570k do have only 4. Still it it is cooler CPU and it takes less wattage.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...
Must read this: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=198569


In all honesty i have never considered anything but the 3570 and 3570k, I will look into them as not familiar at all with the xeon line up. Thanks for feedback.
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April 30, 2013 7:09:32 AM

For almost the same price I advise you to look at the same parts below... It will be better for your whole setup.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.49 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.91 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£45.39 @ Dabs)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£71.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£49.99 @ Dabs)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£311.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case (£82.45 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£74.00 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.66 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.39 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1010.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-30 15:08 BST+0100)

note: I tried to stay as much loyal as I can comparing to your original setup. I'd prefer GTX680 instead of your 7970 to be honest... Other than that those are my recommendations. Which has also overclocking ability and better quality pieces.
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April 30, 2013 7:12:13 AM

ampot said:
Noob12 said:
Remember also that is not shooting in our own leg if you buy xeon 1230V2. It is way much faster CPU than 3570k.
It is only 100MHz slower than 3770. It is as fast as the 2011 3820 and that is really fast. It is HT (hyper treading)
And it is cheap. , like I7 for a price i5. And it do have 8 treads 3570k do have only 4. Still it it is cooler CPU and it takes less wattage.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...
Must read this: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=198569


In all honesty i have never considered anything but the 3570 and 3570k, I will look into them as not familiar at all with the xeon line up. Thanks for feedback.


Xeon are for business purposes only. There is no need to invest in a CPU like that. They have less frequency but more bandwith with extra cores for computational purposes. Which doesnt really effect your gaming in a good way, usually even worse for driving the GPU to its peak performance since Xeon CPU frequencies are lower than i7-i5 series.
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April 30, 2013 7:18:07 AM

n1ghtr4v3n said:
For almost the same price I advise you to look at the same parts below... It will be better for your whole setup.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.49 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.91 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£45.39 @ Dabs)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£71.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£49.99 @ Dabs)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£311.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case (£82.45 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£74.00 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.66 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.39 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1010.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-30 15:08 BST+0100)

note: I tried to stay as much loyal as I can comparing to your original setup. I'd prefer GTX680 instead of your 7970 to be honest... Other than that those are my recommendations. Which has also overclocking ability and better quality pieces.


Actually quite like this, but the PSU should really be a bit higher watt? est watt of build is 450 ish.
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April 30, 2013 7:22:46 AM

n1ghtr4v3n said:
For almost the same price I advise you to look at the same parts below... It will be better for your whole setup.

note: I tried to stay as much loyal as I can comparing to your original setup. I'd prefer GTX680 instead of your 7970 to be honest... Other than that those are my recommendations. Which has also overclocking ability and better quality pieces.


I would prefer a GTX card in all honesty, but getting crysis 3 free and being cheaper makes it hard to pick against. Also price for performance of GTX 680 is not great by my research.

It may even be worth seeing what GTX come up with next month i guess, not a big fan of waiting.

Many thanks for your feedback, I do believe I will be adjusting to most of your suggestions.
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April 30, 2013 7:24:24 AM

ampot said:
n1ghtr4v3n said:
For almost the same price I advise you to look at the same parts below... It will be better for your whole setup.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (£167.99 @ Aria PC)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (£24.49 @ CCL Computers)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z77X-D3H ATX LGA1155 Motherboard (£101.91 @ Amazon UK)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£45.39 @ Dabs)
Storage: Samsung 840 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Disk (£71.99 @ Aria PC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£49.99 @ Dabs)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7970 3GB Video Card (£311.99 @ Aria PC)
Case: Corsair 400R ATX Mid Tower Case (£82.45 @ Aria PC)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 520W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply (£74.00 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer (£11.66 @ Amazon UK)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£68.39 @ Aria PC)
Total: £1010.25
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-30 15:08 BST+0100)

note: I tried to stay as much loyal as I can comparing to your original setup. I'd prefer GTX680 instead of your 7970 to be honest... Other than that those are my recommendations. Which has also overclocking ability and better quality pieces.


Actually quite like this, but the PSU should really be a bit higher watt? est watt of build is 450 ish.


If the PSU is a good quality one and can keep stable 500W there is no need for more than that. SeaSonic PSU's are very good and modular. So it keeps the cable tight and you remove what you dont need. Anyway this system wont be using more than 500W even if its pushed under load and the peak value of this Seasonic is more than enough.

Note: You may be wondering why you should pay slightly more for less power than your choice of psu. Since its a full modular its a bit more expensive than the previous one. If you care about cable management in your case. It is a good idea to invest a little more.
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April 30, 2013 7:31:08 AM

n1ghtr4v3n said:


If the PSU is a good quality one and can keep stable 500W there is no need for more than that. SeaSonic PSU's are very good and modular. So it keeps the cable tight and you remove what you dont need. Anyway this system wont be using more than 500W even if its pushed under load and the peak value of this Seasonic is more than enough.

Note: You may be wondering why you should pay slightly more for less power than your choice of psu. Since its a full modular its a bit more expensive than the previous one. If you care about cable management in your case. It is a good idea to invest a little more.


If i did decide to o/c would that psu really be enough? I mean I likely will buy a 1900x1200 res monitor next and contemplate O/C, my budget is flexible if its going to last alot longer.
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April 30, 2013 7:33:37 AM

Noob12 said:
n1ghtr4v3n said:
ampot said:
Noob12 said:
Remember also that is not shooting in our own leg if you buy xeon 1230V2. It is way much faster CPU than 3570k.
It is only 100MHz slower than 3770. It is as fast as the 2011 3820 and that is really fast. It is HT (hyper treading)
And it is cheap. , like I7 for a price i5. And it do have 8 treads 3570k do have only 4. Still it it is cooler CPU and it takes less wattage.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...
Must read this: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=198569


In all honesty i have never considered anything but the 3570 and 3570k, I will look into them as not familiar at all with the xeon line up. Thanks for feedback.


Xeon are for business purposes only. There is no need to invest in a CPU like that. They have less frequency but more bandwith with extra cores for computational purposes. Which doesnt really effect your gaming in a good way, usually even worse for driving the GPU to its peak performance since Xeon CPU frequencies are lower than i7-i5 series.


No it is not. It sure can run any game you like. Not right now it do not benefit in games. But in future it is maybe other story. CPU performance is not anymore question of CPU frequencies. And there are couple games in market that benefits the HT. It is more likely that there will be more in future. You can't overclock 3570k to be faster than xeon.
It is not faster when you overclock it to 4.0GHz why is that? And if must have more overclockin like 4.5 to 5.0GHz it do not come cheap. So you are telling as well that the 3770 and 3770k is no good CPU? They are too faster than 3570k.
I was only thinking that it is better take faster CPU if you can even if you do not overclock. I think faster is better. If you overclock or not. And it is sure thing. Overclocking is not. 212 EVO makes it to 4.2 GHz tops. And still if someone buys 3570k and do not overclock it. You still have faster CPU if you buy xeon :)  HT and 8 cores come this case for free.
And that is not bad thing. 3570k price is £167.99 and xeon is £172.79+so 5£ more. Too much? Maybe. maybe not.
but overclocking option is not cheap. You need good CPU cooler and more expensive MoBo.



Appreciate the push for xeon but have decided against it. A 3570k suits my needs and budget quite well.
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April 30, 2013 7:38:14 AM

ampot said:
n1ghtr4v3n said:


If the PSU is a good quality one and can keep stable 500W there is no need for more than that. SeaSonic PSU's are very good and modular. So it keeps the cable tight and you remove what you dont need. Anyway this system wont be using more than 500W even if its pushed under load and the peak value of this Seasonic is more than enough.

Note: You may be wondering why you should pay slightly more for less power than your choice of psu. Since its a full modular its a bit more expensive than the previous one. If you care about cable management in your case. It is a good idea to invest a little more.


If i did decide to o/c would that psu really be enough? I mean I likely will buy a 1900x1200 res monitor next and contemplate O/C, my budget is flexible if its going to last alot longer.


it will still be enough you cant push your system's power consumption more than 50W just by overclocking. What you need is a good stable brand/model which can stay under pressure, SeaSonic is usually overclocker's choice.
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April 30, 2013 7:40:13 AM

ampot said:
n1ghtr4v3n said:


If the PSU is a good quality one and can keep stable 500W there is no need for more than that. SeaSonic PSU's are very good and modular. So it keeps the cable tight and you remove what you dont need. Anyway this system wont be using more than 500W even if its pushed under load and the peak value of this Seasonic is more than enough.

Note: You may be wondering why you should pay slightly more for less power than your choice of psu. Since its a full modular its a bit more expensive than the previous one. If you care about cable management in your case. It is a good idea to invest a little more.


If i did decide to o/c would that psu really be enough? I mean I likely will buy a 1900x1200 res monitor next and contemplate O/C, my budget is flexible if its going to last alot longer.


ampot said:
Noob12 said:
n1ghtr4v3n said:
ampot said:
Noob12 said:
Remember also that is not shooting in our own leg if you buy xeon 1230V2. It is way much faster CPU than 3570k.
It is only 100MHz slower than 3770. It is as fast as the 2011 3820 and that is really fast. It is HT (hyper treading)
And it is cheap. , like I7 for a price i5. And it do have 8 treads 3570k do have only 4. Still it it is cooler CPU and it takes less wattage.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Xeon+E3-1...
Must read this: http://www.subsim.com/radioroom/showthread.php?t=198569


In all honesty i have never considered anything but the 3570 and 3570k, I will look into them as not familiar at all with the xeon line up. Thanks for feedback.


Xeon are for business purposes only. There is no need to invest in a CPU like that. They have less frequency but more bandwith with extra cores for computational purposes. Which doesnt really effect your gaming in a good way, usually even worse for driving the GPU to its peak performance since Xeon CPU frequencies are lower than i7-i5 series.


No it is not. It sure can run any game you like. Not right now it do not benefit in games. But in future it is maybe other story. CPU performance is not anymore question of CPU frequencies. And there are couple games in market that benefits the HT. It is more likely that there will be more in future. You can't overclock 3570k to be faster than xeon.
It is not faster when you overclock it to 4.0GHz why is that? And if must have more overclockin like 4.5 to 5.0GHz it do not come cheap. So you are telling as well that the 3770 and 3770k is no good CPU? They are too faster than 3570k.
I was only thinking that it is better take faster CPU if you can even if you do not overclock. I think faster is better. If you overclock or not. And it is sure thing. Overclocking is not. 212 EVO makes it to 4.2 GHz tops. And still if someone buys 3570k and do not overclock it. You still have faster CPU if you buy xeon :)  HT and 8 cores come this case for free.
And that is not bad thing. 3570k price is £167.99 and xeon is £172.79+so 5£ more. Too much? Maybe. maybe not.
but overclocking option is not cheap. You need good CPU cooler and more expensive MoBo.



Appreciate the push for xeon but have decided against it. A 3570k suits my needs and budget quite well.


uhm... just check back the Xeon vs i5-i7 gaming performances. You'll see what I mean. Extra cores and bandwith are not really related to your gaming. Even the latest games are using single or dual cores. Unless you are trying to play 4 games at the same time O_o
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April 30, 2013 8:20:16 AM

Noob12 said:


No it is not. It sure can run any game you like. Not right now it do not benefit in games. But in future it is maybe other story. CPU performance is not anymore question of CPU frequencies. And there are couple games in market that benefits the HT. It is more likely that there will be more in future. You can't overclock 3570k to be faster than xeon.
It is not faster when you overclock it to 4.0GHz why is that? And if must have more overclockin like 4.5 to 5.0GHz it do not come cheap. So you are telling as well that the 3770 and 3770k is no good CPU? They are too faster than 3570k.
I was only thinking that it is better take faster CPU if you can even if you do not overclock. I think faster is better. If you overclock or not. And it is sure thing. Overclocking is not. 212 EVO makes it to 4.2 GHz tops. And still if someone buys 3570k and do not overclock it. You still have faster CPU if you buy xeon :)  HT and 8 cores come this case for free.
And that is not bad thing. 3570k price is £167.99 and xeon is £172.79+so 5£ more. Too much? Maybe. maybe not.
but overclocking option is not cheap. You need good CPU cooler and more expensive MoBo.

And the SSD if you want cheap take that crucial. If you want fast take samsung pro. Not that TLC samsung.it is not good choice.



As far as I can tell, the xeon is good if you want hyperthreading, but don't want overclocking because it is way cheaper than the 3770. The Xeon will also not help with gaming as they rarely utilise hyperthreading, preferring per core performance both the i5 and xeon have.

And you definitely can overclock the i5 beyond the performance of the Xeon. Unless you are really bad at OCing or have an awful chip the CM212 will not max at 4.2GHz, many will go to 4.5Ghz and beyond.

For gaming, the 3570K is better, plus it's cheaper. You don't need an expensive MoBo, nor an expensive cooler.

Finally the Samsung 840 is a amazing drive and at a really good price.
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May 1, 2013 1:44:59 PM

Right, noob12 half your post is completely irrelevant to the points I am making.

TLC Nand has come leaps and bounds since that article was written. A company like samsung, who's 830 and 470 SSDs were the best of their time, would not make a TLC Nand SSD if they were not sure on it's reliability and performance.

Also the point with hyperthreading, the fact that you can turn it off is a null point. I am saying that the Xeon you recommended is only really comparable to the i7 3770 because they are both 4 cores 8 thread without overclocking. For 4 cores 4 threads non overclocking there are much cheaper i5s, and there isn't a xeon that overclocks so you cannot satisfy a person's requirement for higher clock speeds with a Xeon. By-the-by there is a video on youtube of a i5 3570K at 6.4GHz. The clocking abilities of the 3570K and 3770K are the same due them being the same chip, just the i5 has hyperthreading disabled.

(I'm not sure why you mentioned the builds you have and the clocks you've managed to attain with them)

As for overclocking an i5 beyond that of the Xeon, via google i found that with using the Xeon E3-1230 V2, it would take Super Pi around 10-11s to calculate 1M digits of Pi. My 4.2GHz 2550K does the same 1M digits in 8-9s. That is faster. I chose super pi as it is a single thread benchmark and many of today's games are single threaded (or dual thread) so it is applicable for comparing the gaming performance the 2 processors would offer.
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