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April 30, 2013 2:38:30 PM

My current computer is crap. K, now that that is out of the way I need a new gaming computer setup but I wanted to ask a little bit of advice from you guys on the forums. What sort of setup do you recommend? I want to be able to run this years best titles on high graphics but not break the bank if I don't have to. I haven't figured out everything I want in it but I was thinking about going with this processor and this graphics card:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Thanks in advance :) 

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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 2:46:45 PM

That processor is serious overkill for a gaming rig. An i5 3570k will give you all the performance you need to game, and that money is better invested in a better GPU or cooling system.
What is your price range for this machine, and what resolution are you planning on playing on?
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April 30, 2013 2:55:15 PM

Jack Revenant said:
That processor is serious overkill for a gaming rig. An i5 3570k will give you all the performance you need to game, and that money is better invested in a better GPU or cooling system.
What is your price range for this machine, and what resolution are you planning on playing on?


Somewhere in the 1500-3000$ range but, the lower the better (But I want it to last me 3-4 years before I need an upgrade and want to play all my games on high graphics.). The resolution would be 1080 or more.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 3:08:02 PM

Expensive build (with monitor but no mouse/keyboard):

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: NZXT Kraken X60 98.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($154.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.16 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($219.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.98 @ Outlet PC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($445.91 @ Newegg)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($445.91 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 820 (Grey) ATX Full Tower Case ($239.99 @ Microcenter)
Power Supply: SeaSonic X Series 1050W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($216.82 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium Full (32/64-bit) ($176.15 @ Amazon)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($266.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $2651.83
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-30 18:07 EDT-0400)
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April 30, 2013 3:11:19 PM

I like most of that setup but what if I went with a single gtx 680 and 16 gb of ram would that still power my games on high settings? And would I need to change any of the other items?

Edit: And I have heard that dual video cards are buggy and/ or games dont utilize the full functionality of them are they really worth it?
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 3:14:31 PM

Lower-priced build:

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks

CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.98 @ Outlet PC)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($79.98 @ Outlet PC)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme6 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($154.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($67.16 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 Pro Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($139.67 @ Amazon)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($127.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7970 GHz Edition 3GB Video Card ($445.91 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80 PLUS Gold Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($128.54 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-04 DVD/CD Writer ($17.98 @ Outlet PC)
Monitor: Asus VG248QE 144Hz 24.0" Monitor ($266.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1719.17
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2013-04-30 18:14 EDT-0400)
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 3:17:10 PM

silvershadow113 said:
I like most of that setup but what if I went with a single gtx 680 and 16 gb of ram would that still power my games on high settings? And would I need to change any of the other items?

Edit: And I have heard that dual video cards are buggy and/ or games dont utilize the full functionality of them are they really worth it?


16 GB of RAM is usually overkill. You can do it, but there are essentially no gains in gaming. You could use a 680, although the Ghz. Edition tend to outperform them (though it varies by game).

SLI/CrossFire have issues, no doubt. In particular, CrossFire has a habit of producing runt frames which boost FPS counts but not observed FPS. Based on the Radeon HD 7990 review, it looks like AMD is working on drivers to fix that, slated for release sometime in Q3.
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April 30, 2013 3:18:13 PM

You really don't need to go past an i5 + 7870 XT (7930) build with that monitor. You will be able to play any game out at high to ultra. I have this combo and play Skyrim, Bf3, TR, Bioshock, Planetside, Borderlands 2, and a slew of other games...all at max settings on my 24" 1080p screen.

I'd save the money off the i7 and 680 and buy more games. Sample build:


1 ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $19.99
1 COOLER MASTER HAF 912 $59.99
1 Seagate Barracuda ST31000524AS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive $79.99
1 CORSAIR CX500M 500W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply $69.99
1 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory $62.99
1 ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard $79.99
1 Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor $229.99
1 Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM $99.99
1 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler $34.99
1 PowerColor PCS+ AX7870 2GBD5-2DHPPV3E Radeon HD 7870 MYST. Edition (Tahiti LE) 2GB $249.99
1 AMD Gift FARCRY3 Blood Dragon BIOSHOCK TOMBRAIDER FREE!
Subtotal: $977.90

If you want to spend more get an ssd, a better mobo, and or a gtx 670. There is just very little to gain from spending more money at 1080p.

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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 3:20:59 PM

Loops makes a solid point. If you intend to play at 1080p on a 60hz monitor, you probably wouldn't notice the difference between a 7870 XT and a 7970 Ghz., and particularly not between a single Ghz. and a CrossFire. This is part of why I advocated the 144hz, but many people can't see the difference between 60 FPS and 120 FPS, so it may be a moot point.
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April 30, 2013 3:25:34 PM

I mean what I want is is high end gaming and something I wont have to replace for a few years. Something that can keep 60+ frames per second which is why I want that nice monitor you picked out. And I especially want a good graphics card if it has bugs even if its going to be fixed i dont want it till its fixed.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 3:30:32 PM

A graphics card with longevity and no bugs is a bit of a difficulty, given that to have longterm viability, a card needs to be fairly cutting-edge as of now. If you're looking for a less-buggy, long-lived option available now, without using dual GPUs, you may be stuck with the (in my opinion) underperforming for price Titan.
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April 30, 2013 3:59:32 PM

I understand that the graphics card probably wont last all that long so I don't need to go with the titan. But mabye a single gtx 680/690/670?
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April 30, 2013 4:07:06 PM

I'm very fond of nvidia but do you think amd cards are better? Sorry for all the questions I just need to know.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 5:02:08 PM

silvershadow113 said:
I understand that the graphics card probably wont last all that long so I don't need to go with the titan. But mabye a single gtx 680/690/670?


If you're fond of nVidia, either a single or an SLI of two 670 FTWs is your best value for money option. The 680 is only marginally better than the significantly cheaper 670. The 690 is basically just a pair of 680s.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 5:02:27 PM

silvershadow113 said:
Thanks for the help :) 


It's been a pleasure.
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April 30, 2013 5:05:13 PM

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

COOLER MASTER HAF 912

CORSAIR CX500M 500W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory

ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler

Gtx 670 Nvidia Graphics Card

Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard

Logitech G930 USB Connector Circumaural Wireless Gaming Headset

Logitech M310 Peacock Blue 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB RF Wireless Laser Mouse

ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD 3D Monitor Height&pivot adjustable 350 cd/m2 80,000,000:1 Built-in Speakers
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 5:07:44 PM

silvershadow113 said:
I'm very fond of nvidia but do you think amd cards are better? Sorry for all the questions I just need to know.


I prefer AMD personally, but that's just my tastes. I'm willing to risk spottier drivers and glitches for, usually, superior hardware. That said, at the apex-tier of GPUs, it's pretty much a dead heat, particularly if we assume (as I do) that a CrossFire fix is coming soon. Any of the 7870 XT, 7950, 7970, 670, or 680 would work fine. It's pretty much down to overclocking/cooling preferences and value for cost equations.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 5:09:44 PM

silvershadow113 said:
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

COOLER MASTER HAF 912

CORSAIR CX500M 500W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory

ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler

Gtx 670 Nvidia Graphics Card

Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard

Logitech G930 USB Connector Circumaural Wireless Gaming Headset

Logitech M310 Peacock Blue 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB RF Wireless Laser Mouse

ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD 3D Monitor Height&pivot adjustable 350 cd/m2 80,000,000:1 Built-in Speakers


Only alteration I would make is a slightly large PSU, perhaps 600w or so. That's due to my constant paranoia regarding overtaxing a PSU and potentially damaging my machine or reducing performance. Other than that, looks great. One addition question: what brand on the 670?

Edit: Just to check, you're aware that the Pro3 isn't good for a future SLI, right? From what you've said, I'd guess that you won't go in that direction, but I want to make sure you're aware.
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April 30, 2013 5:12:45 PM

I dont know yet any suggestions? This will still run all my high end games on high right? (Such as black ops 2) and all the parts will cooperate right? Sorry I have never built a pc and need the advice.
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April 30, 2013 5:14:51 PM

Jack Revenant said:
silvershadow113 said:
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

COOLER MASTER HAF 912

CORSAIR CX500M 500W ATX12V v2.3 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory

ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler

Gtx 670 Nvidia Graphics Card

Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard

Logitech G930 USB Connector Circumaural Wireless Gaming Headset

Logitech M310 Peacock Blue 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB RF Wireless Laser Mouse

ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD 3D Monitor Height&pivot adjustable 350 cd/m2 80,000,000:1 Built-in Speakers


Only alteration I would make is a slightly large PSU, perhaps 600w or so. That's due to my constant paranoia regarding overtaxing a PSU and potentially damaging my machine or reducing performance. Other than that, looks great. One addition question: what brand on the 670?

Edit: Just to check, you're aware that the Pro3 isn't good for a future SLI, right? From what you've said, I'd guess that you won't go in that direction, but I want to make sure you're aware.


I don't think I want to do dual graphics cards so I don't think it will be a problem. Sorry If i sound a little noobish at all this (lol) I dont have a boatload of expeience.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 5:15:31 PM

silvershadow113 said:
I dont know yet any suggestions? This will still run all my high end games on high right? (Such as black ops 2) and all the parts will cooperate right? Sorry I have never built a pc and need the advice.


As said, I'm bad with nVidia, but EVGA seems popular around here. A 670 FTW edition, to my understanding, will max pretty much anything short of Crisis 3. That said, I only know its specs in comparison the the AMD GPUs I researched for my own recent builds, so I may be slightly off.
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April 30, 2013 5:16:37 PM

oh and what power supply should I go with?
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April 30, 2013 5:21:35 PM

Final Revision:

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

COOLER MASTER HAF 912

SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold ((SS-650KM Active PFC F3)) 650W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory

ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler

EVGA 02G-P4-3677-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW Signature2 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard

Logitech G930 USB Connector Circumaural Wireless Gaming Headset

Logitech M310 Peacock Blue 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB RF Wireless Laser Mouse

ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD 3D Monitor Height&pivot adjustable 350 cd/m2 80,000,000:1 Built-in Speakers

Sound Good? :D 
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 5:21:41 PM

silvershadow113 said:
this would be the 670 I go with probably:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Looks good. That said, based on the benchmarks I've seen, you probably won't be pulling down triple-digit FPS with a single 670. That's not a bad thing, given that 60 is considered the baseline for good FPS, but it means that the 144hz monitor won't be as useful as it would with a somewhat more powerful graphics setup. That said, there's no need to push numbers higher for the sake of higher numbers. My estimation is that this rig will serve you in good stead. Twere I to make a single "upgrade", it would be an additional GPU, but that is by no means needed, and might not even be noticable.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 5:22:21 PM

silvershadow113 said:
Final Revision:

ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM

COOLER MASTER HAF 912

SeaSonic X Series X650 Gold ((SS-650KM Active PFC F3)) 650W ATX12V V2.3/EPS 12V V2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS GOLD Certified Full Modular Active PFC Power Supply

G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory

ASRock Z77 Pro3 LGA 1155 Intel Z77 HDMI SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM

COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO RR-212E-20PK-R2 Continuous Direct Contact 120mm Sleeve CPU Cooler

EVGA 02G-P4-3677-KR GeForce GTX 670 FTW Signature2 2GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 3.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

Microsoft SIDEWINDER X4 Keyboard

Logitech G930 USB Connector Circumaural Wireless Gaming Headset

Logitech M310 Peacock Blue 3 Buttons 1 x Wheel USB RF Wireless Laser Mouse

ASUS VG248QE Black 24" 144Hz 1ms (GTG) HDMI Widescreen LED Backlight LCD 3D Monitor Height&pivot adjustable 350 cd/m2 80,000,000:1 Built-in Speakers

Sound Good? :D 


Sounds good. Happy gaming!
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April 30, 2013 5:24:22 PM

If I were to add a second 670 in the future what would I change? Or would a 690 serve me better because it is dual 680s?
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April 30, 2013 5:26:06 PM

Thanks :D  sorry for so many questions :p 
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 5:27:55 PM

silvershadow113 said:
If I were to add a second 670 in the future what would I change? Or would a 690 serve me better because it is dual 680s?


If you were going to add another 670, you'd want a different motherboard. Your present one has only a single PCIe 3.0 x16 slot for the graphics card. For a two-way SLI, you'd probably want an Asrock Extreme6.
The 690 is a great card, to be sure, but price-to-power it still loses quite a bit to a pair of 670s. The dual-GPU cards are always a bit weaker than two single-GPUs due to power and heat concerns.
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a b 4 Gaming
April 30, 2013 5:32:11 PM

silvershadow113 said:
ok thanks :D 


My pleasure. I've always said that you learn best by teaching, particularly since a lot of people (myself included) won't properly research something for themselves, but will do so to help others. If anything, thank YOU for the opportunity.
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