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Dual Intel i7 3970x with EVGA Classified SR-2 (Super Record 2) Or Dual Intel i7 3960x with EVGA Classified SR-2 (Super Record

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May 1, 2013 12:11:07 AM

Hello Guys,
I am a Beginner.I don't know much about Hardware.I want to assemble my pc for high performance and ultra gaming(overclocking too). Can you tell me which one is better for me? Intel i7 3960x or 3970x? (for Gaming and High Performance)
And Is this Possible to use Dual Intel i7 3960x or 3970? If yes then pls tell me compatible Motherboard? MONEY IS NOT ISSUE FOR ME! (Unlimited BUDGET)

Thank You.

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May 1, 2013 3:02:08 AM

Leo De Harsh,

"Intel i7 3960x or 3970x ?" > These two processors are very similar, and to me deem to be the same except that the Intel i7 3960x has a 3.3GHz base clock speed and uses and 130 Watts and the 3970x has a 3.5GHz speed and uses 150W. The prices are almost exactly the same and both may be overclocked to stable speeds of 4.2- 4.4GHz with some people claiming 4.6GHz stable. As the speed can be the same overclocked, I'd steer towards the 3960X which uses less power and is therefore running a bit cooler.

"Is this Possible to use Dual Intel i7 3960x or 3970?" > In short -no. It is not possible to use i7's in a dual CPU configuration, for that you have to use Xeon processors with model numbers beginning with "2". Xeons are configured for a certain calculation emphasis, have more cache, typically run at slightly lower clock speeds, consume less power to run cooler, can display 10-bit color, and importantly can use ECC- error correcting RAM. Important benefits of being able to use two CPU's are that it increases the number of CPU cores/ threads, PCIe lanes, and the amount of RAM that can be assessed- I've seen eight Xeon server motherboards that can support 768GB and even 1024GB of RAM- there can be more slots all round! Xeons are also quite a bit more expensive than i7's, the 8-core E5-2687W cost $1,900 and many Xeons are in the $1,200-1,500 range. If you're budget is really "unlimited", there are 10-core Xeons that can be used on 8-CPU boards that cost $4,500 each- giving you 80 cores / 160 threads for about $35,000, and then 1TB of ECC RAM at close to $9,000. then I'd add two Quadro K5000 graphics cards for $3,800 and four Tesla K20X GPU coprocessors for about $32,000, RAID controller and drives another $7,000. With that system you could play several of the most intensive games at highest settings simultaneously and then make a 3D dynamic model of the Asteroid Belt or Pacific Ocean for relaxation.

If you'd like a quick specification for a high performance gaming PC > i7-3960X or i7-3970X overclocked to 4.2GHz , ASUS Rampage motherboard, liquid CPU cooling, 32GB -1866 RAM, 2- NVIDIA GTX 680 video cards, 2- Samsung 840 SSD's in RAID 0 (a system that divides the work of two hard drives to increase performance) for operating system and applications, 2X 2TB, 64MB cache Western Digital or Seagate 6GB/s hard drives in RAID 1 for file storage. RAID 1 creates a "mirror" drive so if one drive fails, the other is an exact duplicate that "rebuild" the replacement drive. When RAID 0 fails, both drives are lost as they each have only 1/2 of the files so you would keep a "system image" on the storage drives that can restore the operating system, applications ans files quickly. Get a high quality dedicated soundcard and amplifier/speaker system with subwoofer. To this system, you would want a 850 to 1200W high quality power supply and do research into the best liquid cooling for the CPU's, the variants of GTX 680's and possibly liquid cooling base plates for those, and a roomy case with plenty of fans that can be speed controlled and good air flow. Look into cases, power supplies, and fans that are rated for quiet running. There are a lot of choices, but such a system might cost $3,200-$4,000.

The process of choosing high performance and compatible parts - not every part works with every other part- should be approached carefully and with a lot of care and understanding of what each component does and at what level each choice performs. Assembling and configuring a system is not extremely difficult but does require a methodical approach that can be demystified by watching YouTube videos- though you have to filter through the piles of bad ones.

That is a kind of generic high performance gaming computer and I imagine others will have more detailed, and specific performance targeted choices.

Cheers,

BambiBoom
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May 2, 2013 8:55:34 AM

Thank You Dude!! You are Such a Genius.Thankx again.God Bless You...

Well Need Another Favour??

What abt the 4th Generation Processors of Intel.I heard that Intel will launch them in this July.

Is that Better??
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May 2, 2013 1:20:02 PM

Leo De Harsh said:
Thank You Dude!! You are Such a Genius.Thankx again.God Bless You...

Well Need Another Favour??

What abt the 4th Generation Processors of Intel.I heard that Intel will launch them in this July.

Is that Better??


Leo De Harsh,

Ah, the Famous Haswells of the Future -sounds like a Sci-Fi franchise doesn't it?

Yes, I've seen reports of "leaked" reports of the upcoming Haswell CPU's and a list of those i5's and i7's such as "i7-4770K" or in other words, where a "3" went before, put a "4" in front of any i5- or i7- model number. [Edit >] Coincidentally, a few hours after writing this reply in which I mentioned I hadn't read anything about the Haswell Extreme processor, our friend Tom's Hardware published a first specification for the "i7-4960X", that is supposed to be released in September, 2013. This is the Ivy Bridge 22nm architecture, has six cores, fifteen MB cache, and runs at 3.6GHz with 4.0 Turbo. That compares to the current i7-3690X > Sandy Bridge 32nm, six cores, fifteen MB cache, and running at 3.4GHz and 3.9 Turbo. One feature that separates the new Haswell is that it supports 1866 RAM instead of 1600. Of the Haswells tested so far have been running about 10% faster than- as stock clock speeds are about 200MHz faster than Gen 3. I don't know about the price, but Intel seems to keep prices of successors similar and also doesn't drop the price for the earlier ones, which would undercut sales of the new ones.

I'm of two minds about waiting for Haswells as overclocking can make a Sandy Bridge as fast, plus it's possible to buy RAM to overclock or that is already overclocked. I've read varying reports, but there is a possible issue of the tighter lithography making Ivy Bridge run a bit hotter, but of course a well-thought out, efficient liquid cooling system and case air handling can take care of that. The Haswells with integrated graphics (I think it's called "4600", report that it is noticeably better, but that's immaterial to your proposed system. I can't say that waiting three-four months will mean any substantial advantages. I see systems often on Passmark baselines in which clever 1st and 2nd generation i7- systems outperform 3rd generation.

A couple of other thoughts > Before buying graphics cards, look into any games you're likely to ever even test drive and check to see if the games are CUDA accelerated, or are Open CL, DirectX and so on. This can affect the choice of video card. If they're CUDA -orientated, then the dual GTX 680's will push things along nicely as well. There's a new Radeon, the HD 7990 (probably quite expensive), with dual GPU's and apparently very high performance -that competes against the GTX 690 that might be a better bet.

Again, some other important components > CPU (liquid is more effective) and possible RAM cooling, the case- roomy, lots of fans, and with good air flow, quiet, and of course the drives and RAID. To me. these forums tend to concentrate on the processing hardware- CPU and GPU and not the output hardware- sound and monitor. In other words, there is much talk of high performance processors, RAM, video cards, and fast SSD /HD's, but not enough on sound cards, speakers, and the monitor(s).

Complicated!


Cheers,

BambiBoom
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May 5, 2013 7:01:23 AM

Thankx But
Actually,I am Confused.My Fixed Budget is around 40000 to 45000 $.
Now please can you do me a last favour?
Just give me a list of best CPU-GPU(My Purpose is For Gaming,High Performance and Overclocking,Gaming on Full HD $ 3D,1920*1080p)...My List is as follows@

Best Motherboard
Best Processor
Best GPU
Best Liquid Cooling System
Best Ram Quality And Quantity
Best Power Supplier
Super Stylish Gaming Case
Thank You...

If Something is missing in list like Ram Cooling,Hard Disks,SSDs,DVD-Writter,Fans ETC .Please Add it.

God Bless You.
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June 17, 2013 11:25:21 PM

Best Motherboard: there are heaps to choose from, i'd say go for an Asus ROG Maximus VI Extreme.
Best Processor: get an Intel core i7-4770K and overclock the hell out of it!
Best GPU: with a budget like that, get 2 - 3 Radeon 7990's (or wait till the 8000 series comes out)
Best Liquid Cooling System: do a custom loop! cool everything
Best Ram Quality And Quantity: get about 32GB of G.Skill Trident X ram (that shits super fast)
Best Power Supplier: you could get dual corsair AX1200i's (mainly for bragging rights)
Super Stylish Gaming Case: i like the corsair 900D, it has so many features its not even funny
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