cmi86 :
Those aren't idle temp are they ?
Check this out http://www.frostytech.com/top5_lowprofile_heatsinks.cfm
yes they are idle temp, as you see at the lowest degree.
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Stock/factory/OEM HSF from AMD make a "beautiful" sound like you heard in vacuum cleaner.
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the only available 3rd party HSF you mentioned above are Noctua & Schyte.
those are really reliable aren't they??
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