Asus s56cm upgrade

OX-49 · May 4, 2013

Hi guys, I got a new ASUS s56cm after my ASUS n56vz tasted my coffee So this is Specs:
Cpu I5 3317-U 1.7Ghz up to 2.6Ghz
Gpu Geforce GT 635m 2GB
RAM 8gb (already upgraded)

I learned that it is possible to change CPU and I thinking about I7-3687U
How about Gpu is it possibel to change?

photonboy · May 4, 2013

It's not advisable to change either part, nor am I certain you even could in your case. The CPU is a maybe, the GPU is almost certainly a no.

You'd have to contact the company regardless, because unless they support the CPU in the BIOS a new CPU wouldn't work.

If the new CPU was significantly more powerful (otherwise why upgrade?), this significantly decreases the likelihood that the laptop cooling solution would be adequate anyway (same for GPU).

Just out of curiosity, even if you COULD do it, how much would that CPU and better GPU cost?

Summary:
- unlikely
- contact ASUS

OX-49 · May 4, 2013

photonboy :

if you didn't google i can tell that these Cpu's are very familiar max temp 105C and watts are same 17W socket to

photonboy · May 4, 2013

Comparing specs indicates maybe a 25% improvement for the CPU, assuming it's compatible AND the BIOS supports its full rated frequency.

Again though, here's the Catch 22 with upgrading CPU's in the same gen:
a) If there's a big processing advantage odds are they won't be compatible (TDP and cooling).
b) When they ARE within the same TDP so possibly compatible, the performance advantage is minor so why spend a lot of money go upgrade?

*It's also advisable to state WHY YOU WANT TO UPGRADE. For example, upgrading the CPU by 25% wouldn't benefit many game much due to the graphics bottleneck, whereas upgrading the GPU (if possible) tends to benefit mainly games and specific GPU-accelerated hardware.

OTHER:
SSD's are a great idea for general boot/load times for making your laptop feel "snappier"; I've heard good reports about this Hybrid (SSHD) drive that is 1TB and costs about $120 (Boot files and other files are copied to the SSD portion):
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=80986

There are THREE main thicknesses for 2.5" drives now: 7mm, 9.5mm and 13mm (or close to it). I believe 9.5mm is the most common. Just a WARNING as the 500GB has a 7mm version. In case you weren't aware you can CLONE or do a System Backup/Restore to use a new drive.

You can even take the previous 2.5" drive (if no secondary drive slot), buy a 2.5" USB case and use it for backup (including). *Always, always have at least one BACKUP IMAGE of your Windows partition in case of drive failure or data corruption. Windows backup, Acronis True Image etc..

Great value!

OX-49 · May 5, 2013

photonboy :

Comparing specs indicates maybe a 25% improvement for the CPU, assuming it's compatible AND the BIOS supports its full rated frequency.

Again though, here's the Catch 22 with upgrading CPU's in the same gen:
a) If there's a big processing advantage odds are they won't be compatible (TDP and cooling).
b) When they ARE within the same TDP so possibly compatible, the performance advantage is minor so why spend a lot of money go upgrade?

*It's also advisable to state WHY YOU WANT TO UPGRADE. For example, upgrading the CPU by 25% wouldn't benefit many game much due to the graphics bottleneck, whereas upgrading the GPU (if possible) tends to benefit mainly games and specific GPU-accelerated hardware.

OTHER:
SSD's are a great idea for general boot/load times for making your laptop feel "snappier"; I've heard good reports about this Hybrid (SSHD) drive that is 1TB and costs about $120 (Boot files and other files are copied to the SSD portion):
http://us.ncix.com/products/?sku=80986

There are THREE main thicknesses for 2.5" drives now: 7mm, 9.5mm and 13mm (or close to it). I believe 9.5mm is the most common. Just a WARNING as the 500GB has a 7mm version. In case you weren't aware you can CLONE or do a System Backup/Restore to use a new drive.

You can even take the previous 2.5" drive (if no secondary drive slot), buy a 2.5" USB case and use it for backup (including). *Always, always have at least one BACKUP IMAGE of your Windows partition in case of drive failure or data corruption. Windows backup, Acronis True Image etc..

Great value!

About Cpu I am still thinking and about Gpu yesterday I opened my ultrabook and its intergrated I hear that there is some Gpus that uses PCI port.... About SSD or SSHD it is good idea but you see... I already have SSHD 500GB...

photonboy · May 6, 2013

OX-49 :

External GPU's are essentially non-existent. Aside from Thunderbolt, I'm unaware of any external interfaces which would even be fast enough for a GPU.

I expect external GPU's to become a reality at some point in the next few years using Thunderbolt and E-PCIe (External PCIe). E-PCIe does not yet exist yet, nor am I aware of a thunderbolt-GPU setup (I assume you don't have Thunderbolt anyway). These external connections have to be PART of the laptop when you buy it. (I always thought it would be interesting to have a space available to plug in a graphics card just like a desktop, with the bus exposed directly but in a laptop that's wasted volume so it's unlikely to ever happen. Basically, for NOW you buy what you need at the time of purchase, and in the FUTURE we should see external, but adding a graphics card INTERNALLY might never, ever happen.)

*I'm not sure WHY you are trying to do this as I mentioned before. If you want help, it's a good idea to state your reasons. Laptops are not like desktops, they are difficult to upgrade and parts like the GPU are usually impossible to swap with a better component.

Even if you COULD replace the GPU and CPU, I'd be surprised if it was cost effective. It might make more sense to buy a better laptop and sell your current one.

OX-49 · May 7, 2013

photonboy :

OX-49 :

External GPU's are essentially non-existent. Aside from Thunderbolt, I'm unaware of any external interfaces which would even be fast enough for a GPU.

I expect external GPU's to become a reality at some point in the next few years using Thunderbolt and E-PCIe (External PCIe). E-PCIe does not yet exist yet, nor am I aware of a thunderbolt-GPU setup (I assume you don't have Thunderbolt anyway). These external connections have to be PART of the laptop when you buy it. (I always thought it would be interesting to have a space available to plug in a graphics card just like a desktop, with the bus exposed directly but in a laptop that's wasted volume so it's unlikely to ever happen. Basically, for NOW you buy what you need at the time of purchase, and in the FUTURE we should see external, but adding a graphics card INTERNALLY might never, ever happen.)

*I'm not sure WHY you are trying to do this as I mentioned before. If you want help, it's a good idea to state your reasons. Laptops are not like desktops, they are difficult to upgrade and parts like the GPU are usually impossible to swap with a better component.
already tried
Even if you COULD replace the GPU and CPU, I'd be surprised if it was cost effective. It might make more sense to buy a better laptop and sell your current one.

You are right about it but i had dell with external pci, I think i was kind a lost when i saw eurocom panther 4.0 with many Gpus so it ,,forced" me to think that you can add more, about Cpu i had situotion with it, I changed laptops cpu to better becouse original was warmed up a ,,bit" I really like this swap so i'm thinking about trying to make something familiar

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