i5 quad or fx8350 or fx6300

francisbojczuk · May 5, 2013

Well, here's the thing... which set up would be better PURELY for gaming. I'm planning to OC the cpu to 4.0GHz

Fx8350 or i5 quad or fx6300
2x EVGA GTX650Ti Boost SUPERCLOCK
32gb g skill ripjaw ram
1tb 7200rpm 6gbs seagate hdd
120gb Samsung ssd
Sharkoon t9 atx green midi case
Arctic cooling freezer fan for cpu
Asus P8Z77-V LX Motherboard

So which cpu would be better. I will be playing games like: bf3 blops 1&2 bf4 brink borderlands crysis 1, 2&3 metro 2033 few mmos and co op games. You get the idea.
It just seems illogical when I see people say that the i5 is better.... yet the 8350 at 4.0GHz would be insanely powerful. It has the same amount of chache and it's l3 chache as well. So which processor is better?
Btw, I don't care about power consumption.

slomo4sho · May 5, 2013

FX 8350 > FX 6300

The i5 and FX 8350 each have their advantages but the FX 8350 is the more economical build. Since you are playing mostly newer games, I would recommend the FX 8350 with a good 990FX motherboard.

However, if you already have the Z77 board then the i5 would be the obvious choice.

Hashwagon · May 5, 2013

I'd drop the FX6300 from the conversation if you're compairing the i5 and FX8350. You really couldn't go wrong with either, if money isn't a concern grab the i5 which will out-perform the 8350 in most games.

spat55 · May 5, 2013

Go for a i5, AMD are lagging behind for years now, this isn't a fan boy either as I do own a HD 7850.

Also I would not SLI and go for one card, GTX 670 would be good.

francisbojczuk · May 5, 2013

slomo4sho :

I din't have any of the parts, only the money. So I'll get the z77

francisbojczuk · May 5, 2013

spat55 :

How come, though? It's just the eight cores sound so enticing and powerful... yet the i5... meh.

gamingboy · May 5, 2013

francisbojczuk :

Right now, at this moment, games do not utilize much more than 4 cores. I believe some games (Crysis 3 If I remember correctly) utilize more than 4 cores. And of course, in the future, more and more games will start utilizing more and more cores. Maybe even in the lifetime of the FX 8350.
But the Core i5 is stronger/core than the FX, so in most games it comes out on top.

slomo4sho · May 5, 2013

gamingboy :

However LGA 1150 is a dead end socket whereas the AM3+ has support for at least 1 more generation.

With Haswell due to release in a month, there isn't much reason to build an Ivy Bridge system.

spat55 · May 5, 2013

francisbojczuk :

i5 has quad, which games use most, but the 8 cores don't get used enough gaming as they arn't really optimized for it, check some benchmarks.

gamingboy · May 5, 2013

slomo4sho :

Yup, I totally agree with this. Intel likes to make new sockets and leave them pretty much after a generation or 2. Not ideal for someone who might want to not spend an extra 200-300 dollars on a CPU upgrade.

francisbojczuk · May 5, 2013

gamingboy :

slomo4sho :

Yup, I totally agree with this. Intel likes to make new sockets and leave them pretty much after a generation or 2. Not ideal for someone who might want to not spend an extra 200-300 dollars on a CPU upgrade.

Thing is, I'm building and buying In summer. So I'll end up going under budget and probably buying the next gen cpus from intel.

slomo4sho · May 5, 2013

francisbojczuk :

Discuss the options then.

Guest · May 5, 2013

spat55 :

Last year on Tom's the I3,5,7s all were rated higher than any Amd cpu.This year the I3 has dropped back to being the same as the highest Amd cpu.Nothing really changed except that game makers have utilized more cores. Although the I7 is probably safe as the top cpu for gaming(8 threads) who is to say that the I5 won't drop back as the game makers choose to use even more cores. This won't be from anything Amd is doing now but from what they started back when the fx series first came out.If you have both cpus for a couple of years,which one will improve as games use more cores.If you are building for now and plan to upgrade in the near future, then the choice is I5. If you will not be upgrading anytime soon the choice is much harder.Either cpu gives you what you need to game.

spat55 · May 5, 2013

spat55 :

Last year on Tom's the I3,5,7s all were rated higher than any Amd cpu.This year the I3 has dropped back to being the same as the highest Amd cpu.Nothing really changed except that game makers have utilized more cores. Although the I7 is probably safe as the top cpu for gaming(8 threads) who is to say that the I5 won't drop back as the game makers choose to use even more cores. This won't be from anything Amd is doing now but from what they started back when the fx series first came out.If you have both cpus for a couple of years,which one will improve as games use more cores.If you are building for now and plan to upgrade in the near future, then the choice is I5. If you will not be upgrading anytime soon the choice is much harder.Either cpu gives you what you need to game.

A i5 3570k will last 4 years easily I would say, plus an overclock and your laughing.

Guest · May 5, 2013

spat55 :

Last year on Tom's the I3,5,7s all were rated higher than any Amd cpu.This year the I3 has dropped back to being the same as the highest Amd cpu.Nothing really changed except that game makers have utilized more cores. Although the I7 is probably safe as the top cpu for gaming(8 threads) who is to say that the I5 won't drop back as the game makers choose to use even more cores. This won't be from anything Amd is doing now but from what they started back when the fx series first came out.If you have both cpus for a couple of years,which one will improve as games use more cores.If you are building for now and plan to upgrade in the near future, then the choice is I5. If you will not be upgrading anytime soon the choice is much harder.Either cpu gives you what you need to game.

A i5 3570k will last 4 years easily I would say, plus an overclock and your laughing.

It will last longer probably but will it improve. Correct me if i'm wrong but the 8350 also overclocks, so anyone getting either cpu is laughing.

tgrech · May 5, 2013

More recent benchmarks with the latest Windows hotfixes and drives put the FX8350 at i5 level in most games(IPC improves by around 25-50% with this hotfix), in well threaded games like ArmA/DayZ(Uses 7 threads), or future console ports, the FX8350 is at i7 levels of performance. Plus Steamroller is set to close the gap on Intel, which is a pretty simple upgrade on AM3+.
If I were on a tight budget, I'd go for the FX8350, if you don't want to upgrade, mess around with hotfies/drivers, or want an mATX/mITX build, go with Intel.

Guest · May 5, 2013

tgrech :

You don't need hotfixes to stay with the I5 except benchmarks,most people would barely notice gaming differences if at all.Steamroller may close the gap but the I5 and all other 4 core cpus including amd will have trouble with games utilizing more than 4 cores as game makers progress to the new standards. And as the future cpus will outdo most current cpus the 6 and 8 core or thread cpus from now will be better able to game in the future compared to the 4 core and under cpus.The best cpu for gaming now and possibly the future are the I7 cpus from intel(3770k and up) but most people can't justify that kind of price.

francisbojczuk · May 5, 2013

I'll just end up buying the top end 4th gen i5 when it comes out. I've seen many a benchmark show that the fx is really bad for gaming, but the i5 obliterates the fx and even outperforms a midrange i7 in the majority of games. Plus, doesn't the high end i5 have 8 threads. 4 cores and eight threads? From what I've seen at least. Maybe the new gen i5 will have 6 cores.

tgrech · May 5, 2013

I think whatever you've been reading is very outdated, modern benchmarks from various independent sources but the FX8350 ahead of the i5 most of the time, and comparable to i7. i5s have 4 cores and 4 threads, and this will be the same with Haswell(Just with a 3-15% increase in IPC over Ivy).
For example- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4et7kDGSRfc
A lot of Crysis 3 benchmarks will also show the FX8350 beating the i5(Since by now people will be on the latest drivers).
You can also overclock it higher, with the cooling being the only real limit(Rather than voltage/stability), and you can upgrade to Steamroller easily, and you can save £5o easily on the CPU+Motherboard combination.

Guest · May 5, 2013

francisbojczuk :

The I5 has 4 cores, the I7 4 cores with 8 threads, some I7s have 6 cores with 12 threads. Tom's is a good place to get information that you can use to inform yourself about many things. There is a review of the 8350 that you were asking about. Read it before you say an I5 obliterates it. You can make benchmarks say whatever you want. Read more and make your decisions yourself after thoroughly researching what you need. People are here to help you make a decision not to make it for you. If you don't believe what we are telling you from our experience you can ignore it, but don't tell us about products that don't exist. Read more and if you need more info just ask.

8350rocks · May 5, 2013

francisbojczuk :

No, all Core i5's are 4 cores/4 threads...no HTT. The only i7's with 6 cores are i7-3930k/3960x/3970x. Anything else in a core i7 is 4 cores 8 threads.

AMD can actually run 3 threads per module...with 4 modules, that's 12 threads.

whyso · May 5, 2013

tgrech :

You are off by an order of magnitude there. Hotfixes brought an improvement of 2.5-5%.

But I agree, The 8350 is a better buy, especially considering its price point. (Please note OP that it already runs at 4.0 GHz).

spat55 · May 5, 2013

spat55 :

A i5 3570k will last 4 years easily I would say, plus an overclock and your laughing.

It will last longer probably but will it improve. Correct me if i'm wrong but the 8350 also overclocks, so anyone getting either cpu is laughing.

3570k is a massive overclocker, although I have had mine for a year and haven't yet, as I would like to preserve it till it bottlenecks my new GPU.

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