Will I see a difference?

antoinefinch · May 5, 2013

I want to replace my AMD Sempron 3600+ 2.0ghz 256kb l2 cache/1600mhz system bus, with a

AMD Athlon 64 X2 6000+ 3.10 GHz Dual-Core CPU Processor ADV6000IAA5DO Socket AM2.
AMD
Bus Speed: FSB Speed - 1000 MHz Clock Speed: 3 GHz
Processor Type: Athlon 64 X2 Socket Type: Socket AM2
L2 Cache: 2 MB Number of Cores: 2

Will I see a noticeable difference in performance?

elfmaslana · May 5, 2013

Not much....

CaedenV · May 5, 2013

Technically speaking there would be roughly a 2x performance increase.... but 2 times slow is still slow, and the bottlenecks in most systems reside in the HDD, ram, and/or graphics departments and having a faster CPU is not going to help any of those much.

If the new chip is free, then sure, it will be good experience, and there will be at least SOME performance boost out of it... but if you have to pay for the new chip then you would be much better off setting that money asside to overhaul your system with new equipment.

antoinefinch · May 5, 2013

CaedenV :

well i've upgraded the ram to 2.0gb ddr2, the hdd to sata2 1tb 7200 rpm,video to 1gb,GeForce GT220 1GB PCI Express PCIe x16 Video Card 533212-001
i just thought it would be fun to do.and it was now i'm ready to build i think?

csf60 · May 5, 2013

You will see a massive difference.

CaedenV · May 5, 2013

antoinefinch :

All HDDs are slow, and even fast HDDs are typically a major bottleneck of most systems. SSDs are the first time that storage no longer becomes the big bottleneck of the system.

DDR2 itself is a major bottleneck. For example, a Core2Duo processor paired with an older DDR2 platorm will feel sluggish, but that same CPU on a DDR3 system feels fairly modern and snappy. Having 2GB of DDR2 is at least enough so that you are not always dipping into virtural memory (using the HDD as memory), but even browsing the web can take up more than 2GB of ram (especially on XP64 or winVista/7/8), so upgrading to 4GB is a good modern minimum for home systems, while power users and gamers really need 8GB to prevent the use of virtural memory.

The GT220 is slower than some modern onboard video cards now. This is still a bottleneck, though no dobut better than the onboard video that came with your computer.

I am not trying to be harsh, or a downer. This is just old technology, and not even mid-level old technology, and any upgrades that you do are going to have serious limitations by the supporting hardware to the point where changing out the CPU is only going to make marginal improvements even if on paper it is a 2x performance increase.

But again, like I said before: If this is a free upgrade, the go for it. There will be some improvements to be had, and it is always fun to work on one's rig.
But if you are spending ANY money at all in order to aquire this 'new' CPU then it is too much money spent.

As a side note... those old Semprons can OC like a champ, do you have a proper CPU cooler to try your hand at that?

8350rocks · May 5, 2013

CaedenV :

That would actually be a great "test bed" to get into overclocking basics...if you mess up there's no great cost involved.

Personally, if it was me, I would set aside about $600.00 and build a scratch build from the ground up. You can do a nice overhaul build on AMD parts for about that. You can get a decent 970 series MoBo for about $80, the FX6300 is about $130, you can get 4 GB of DDR3 1600 for around $30-40...(sometimes you can find DDR3 1866 on sale for about $45 or so). You can pickup a cheap case for about $30, a PSU for about $40, and a DVD Burner for $20. A new 500GB 7200 RPM SATA3 HDD will run about $50-55, 1 TB for about $65-70. A CoolerMaster 212 EVO cooler is about $30. You can then spend about $100-150 to get a HD 7790 or low end HD 7850 GPU and that all together would be a MASSIVE upgrade over your current system, plus you could build it yourself and get to tinker with all of that. It only takes about 2 hours to build one from scratch...installing windows will take about twice that long...(or longer).

Everything said and done, you could get a rig that would run the newest games on mediumish settings for about $600.00...if you need a new copy of windows, add $100 to that (I don't recommend pirated software...though if your old windows CD is not OEM, you can use it to install windows on your new machine). Be sure your Windows7 is the 64bit version...32bit will be going the way of the dodo in the next few years.

antoinefinch · May 5, 2013

8350rocks :

CaedenV :

That would actually be a great "test bed" to get into overclocking basics...if you mess up there's no great cost involved.

Personally, if it was me, I would set aside about $600.00 and build a scratch build from the ground up. You can do a nice overhaul build on AMD parts for about that. You can get a decent 970 series MoBo for about $80, the FX6300 is about $130, you can get 4 GB of DDR3 1600 for around $30-40...(sometimes you can find DDR3 1866 on sale for about $45 or so). You can pickup a cheap case for about $30, a PSU for about $40, and a DVD Burner for $20. A new 500GB 7200 RPM SATA3 HDD will run about $50-55, 1 TB for about $65-70. A CoolerMaster 212 EVO cooler is about $30. You can then spend about $100-150 to get a HD 7790 or low end HD 7850 GPU and that all together would be a MASSIVE upgrade over your current system, plus you could build it yourself and get to tinker with all of that. It only takes about 2 hours to build one from scratch...installing windows will take about twice that long...(or longer).

Everything said and done, you could get a rig that would run the newest games on mediumish settings for about $600.00...if you need a new copy of windows, add $100 to that (I don't recommend pirated software...though if your old windows CD is not OEM, you can use it to install windows on your new machine). Be sure your Windows7 is the 64bit version...32bit will be going the way of the dodo in the next few years.

what about this cpu AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition 3.2GHz 4x512KB L2/6MB L3 Socket AM3 Quad-Core CPU
The HDZ955FBK4DGM provides a 3.2 GHz core speed, 4 x 512 KB L2 cache and 6 MB L3 cache. This CPU is built using a 45 nm fabrication process and features four cores on die, giving you the power of four CPUs in one Socket AM3 package, allowing you to use it with Socket AM3, AM2+ and even AM2 motherboards.

8350rocks · May 6, 2013

antoinefinch :

You can install that chip in an AM3+ Motherboard just fine...it would be a good cheaper alternative to the FX6300.

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