Trying to add IDE(XP) to ACHI SSD (Wind8)

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Hey got a problem. I'm trying to add my old HHD IDE drive which has Windows XP on it and I'm trying to put it on my new system that is running Win 8. So, I'm trying to use Seagate Disc Wizard to add it, but it does not show up. Also I do not want to format this drive I nbeed the info and WinXp to stay on it. Any help???
 
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Frankly, dual booting that system, if that's what you're attempting, sounds like it will be more trouble than it's worth. If for some reason you need to run Windows XP, have you consider running Windows XP under the Windows 8 Client Hyper-V?

On the other hand, was that copy of Windows XP installed on that hardware set initially, or are you just transplanting the drive out of another computer? You can't just change all of the hardware that XP is trying to target using it's current driver set and expect it to fly. You need to at the very least do a repair installation of XP, or boot it into safe mode, with the SATA controller under IDE mode, and remove all of the old driver software that has been installed for hardware that is no...
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What does Seagate Disc Wizard have to do with anything? It sounds like you have a fully functioning computer, to which you are trying to simply add an older Parallel ATA hard disk (the kind with the 40-pin connector.)

Have you used an adapter to connect the 40-pin PATA drive to a SATA interface? Is the adaptor powered? Is the drive powered? By adapter I mean, something like this:

http://tinyurl.com/cbuvyph

Have you verified the drive is set to the manufacturer's designation for a single drive running on a PATA cable, or in the case it's not alone, is the Master / Slave set correctly for it's cable position, or in accordance with the other drive's designation?

Have you gone into BIOS and confirmed your PATA controller on the motherboard is enabled?

Have you verified that BIOS is indeed seeing your PATA drive?

Is your boot order set correctly so the machine does not first try and boot from the XP installation rather than the Windows 8 installation?

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Just a few thoughts. Get us some more information so we can get you going!
 
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I was using seagate, cause someone told me to use that. I'll get back to ya after I check these.... Yes I do have an adapter though and it is set up correctly... Will post more in a min after I check the stuff ya said.. Also this is the 3rd drive i'm installing(Main SDD, 2nd(2TBHHD), 3rd(old 40pin)... This drive is going into the Sata 4 input on the motherboard(if that info matters).
 
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I tried to make it IDE, but when my SSD boots and I get the blue screen. So I changed it back to ACHI
 
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I would respectfully disagree with the 40 / 80-pin cable comment. If you install using a 40 pin cable, or 80-pin cable in a backward orientation, you should simply see reduced controller speeds. However, since OP is using an adapter, cable is already out of the question. I would look into making sure the drive was set to single / master, as per the drive manufacturer's specs and also verify if the adapter doesn't require a particular setting also. I would also look into skipping adapters altogether, as those can be flaky, and if the motherboard has the connector, just use the 40 / 80-pin cable. There is no speed to be gained from plugging a PATA drive into a SATA connector.
 
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The MB i have doesnt have 40 pin... My Bios is now reading the device though. So question is what to do now? I try to click use earlier version of windows, but get black screen that says press alt,ctrl,del to restart... Win8 works fine.
 
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By "use earlier version of windows," do you mean to say that you are attempting to boot into the Windows XP installation? That's not going to happen, if you're trying to, without some changes. Windows XP has no native support for AHCI, so would require the SATA ports be run in IDE mode, which under Windows 8 will result in a performance degradation. It may be possible to find a driver to enable AHCI support to Windows XP from the manufacturer's website.
 
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Ya idk what the deal is... I'm trying to keep that dreive to be able to use windows xp(hhd) or windows 8(ssd). I do it on my labtop, so I know ya can use both cause it gives ya the option to use either or.. but for some reason it won't let me access the drive... I can see it on windows, but when i try to access it, it says i can't. I tried to "take ownership, but no dice still..... this is a pain in the ass


Edit... I tried in IDE mode as well, but it doesn't work still... and I can't access Windows 8 in IDE mode
 
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Frankly, dual booting that system, if that's what you're attempting, sounds like it will be more trouble than it's worth. If for some reason you need to run Windows XP, have you consider running Windows XP under the Windows 8 Client Hyper-V?

On the other hand, was that copy of Windows XP installed on that hardware set initially, or are you just transplanting the drive out of another computer? You can't just change all of the hardware that XP is trying to target using it's current driver set and expect it to fly. You need to at the very least do a repair installation of XP, or boot it into safe mode, with the SATA controller under IDE mode, and remove all of the old driver software that has been installed for hardware that is no longer present to the XP installation.
 
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Adapters are generally a little flakey but you have a whole host of potential problems. You can't take an OS drive and stick it in another PC and expect it to work. Especially with XP. And I doubt they even made XP drivers for your hardware if it's windows 8.

If it's from an OEM XP machine you don't have a valid license to use it and it will deactivate even if you get it to boot.

If it's retail you'd need to do a clean install for it to work right, even if you got it too boot. Best thing to do is back up, wipe the drive, and clean install IF you have a license. XP DOES support AHCI but you need the XP driver for your mother board controller, if it has one, on a USB stick at install.

Really it makes far more sense to just run XP in virtual box if you have a license and you absolutely need XP for an old piece of software. If it's not a compatibility thing just stop using XP. support is being discontinued
 
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Ya it is just for a few programs that use only xp... I'm gonna try to go the Hyper-V thing and see if that works.... Thanks everyone
 
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