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May 7, 2013 9:56:51 AM

Hello everyone, i am building a new pc (first time) and i need help on picking components for my new build. My max budget is $2000(with watercooling)

Graphics Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Classified 4GB (Watercooling it)
Cpu: Intel i7 3930k(Watercooling)
Ram:G.SKILL Trident X Series 16GB (2 x 8GB)
Motherboard:ASUS Rampage IV Extreme extended(Do i watercool the board?)

Thats all i know for my build, i need help on deciding what case and what waterblocks for the gtx 680, motherboard, and the cpu. (Also need pump, etc)

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a b U Graphics card
May 7, 2013 10:09:44 AM

first time? dont spend your time watercooling. its really not worth it given you dont gain anything from it

get this rig instead. if you are building this for gaming, this is about as much as you need or wait until haswell.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VELH

as for the 680 classified, its useless given it costs 200 dollars more than a gtx 670, yet it performs the same and is still voltage locked making the extra circuitry useless

as for the i7 3930k, and RIVE board. they arent for gaming considering the fact that a i7 doesnt perform much better than a i5 (1-5fps)
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May 7, 2013 10:16:21 AM

TheBigTroll said:
first time? dont spend your time watercooling. its really not worth it given you dont gain anything from it

get this rig instead. if you are building this for gaming, this is about as much as you need or wait until haswell.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VELH

as for the 680 classified, its useless given it costs 200 dollars more than a gtx 670, yet it performs the same and is still voltage locked making the extra circuitry useless

as for the i7 3930k, and RIVE board. they arent for gaming considering the fact that a i7 doesnt perform much better than a i5 (1-5fps)



Aside from the double post, you took the words from my mouth - these are all the exact points I was going to make.
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a b U Graphics card
May 7, 2013 10:21:38 AM

there fixed
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a b U Graphics card
May 7, 2013 1:29:43 PM

TheBigTroll said:
first time? dont spend your time watercooling. its really not worth it given you dont gain anything from it

get this rig instead. if you are building this for gaming, this is about as much as you need or wait until haswell.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VELH

as for the 680 classified, its useless given it costs 200 dollars more than a gtx 670, yet it performs the same and is still voltage locked making the extra circuitry useless

as for the i7 3930k, and RIVE board. they arent for gaming considering the fact that a i7 doesnt perform much better than a i5 (1-5fps)


I completely agree with all points here. The 3930K is not a gaming CPU and you won't benefit from it. Unless you're running scalable applications you won't benefit from it.

What is the primary use of this PC? Is it going to be gaming or something else?
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May 7, 2013 3:27:32 PM

Just to add to the general sentiment here, I think you should put your water-cooling plans on hold for now.
If your a first time builder, water is just an added layer of complexity to what is already going to be a difficult process. Believe me when I say that water-cooling just makes everything harder to deal with later on.

Figure out your rig first (as mentioned, a 3930K is a far overkill chip for gaming), leave in the capability of water-cooling later on, and build the thing. If you want to put it under water a few months down the line (thats how long it took me) then go ahead.
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May 8, 2013 9:25:43 AM

g-unit1111 said:
TheBigTroll said:
first time? dont spend your time watercooling. its really not worth it given you dont gain anything from it

get this rig instead. if you are building this for gaming, this is about as much as you need or wait until haswell.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VELH

as for the 680 classified, its useless given it costs 200 dollars more than a gtx 670, yet it performs the same and is still voltage locked making the extra circuitry useless

as for the i7 3930k, and RIVE board. they arent for gaming considering the fact that a i7 doesnt perform much better than a i5 (1-5fps)


I completely agree with all points here. The 3930K is not a gaming CPU and you won't benefit from it. Unless you're running scalable applications you won't benefit from it.

What is the primary use of this PC? Is it going to be gaming or something else?


The primary use of the computer would be gaming heavily, recording during gameplay and editing videos.
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May 8, 2013 9:33:19 AM

TheBigTroll said:
first time? dont spend your time watercooling. its really not worth it given you dont gain anything from it

get this rig instead. if you are building this for gaming, this is about as much as you need or wait until haswell.
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/VELH

as for the 680 classified, its useless given it costs 200 dollars more than a gtx 670, yet it performs the same and is still voltage locked making the extra circuitry useless

as for the i7 3930k, and RIVE board. they arent for gaming considering the fact that a i7 doesnt perform much better than a i5 (1-5fps)


I dont get the difference from 2nd gen to 3rd gen. Which GEN should i get? and also i want a high perfmoce cpu that will take any game i throw at it and a good lasting one too.(Also thinking about a i7 3770k and overclocking it to 4.6Ghz, does that sound better than getting a i7 3930k?.and im overclocking my computer so thats why i require watercooling.
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a b U Graphics card
May 8, 2013 9:49:37 AM

the difference: 3rd gen performs better but doesnt necessarily overclock better

4.6ghz can be done with a heatsink
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May 9, 2013 9:24:04 AM

TheBigTroll said:
the difference: 3rd gen performs better but doesnt necessarily overclock better

4.6ghz can be done with a heatsink


This is the pc parts i want. Is it good or bad? Im staying with the i7 series and the gtx 680: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/W7mw
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May 9, 2013 9:40:48 AM

haswell which is 4th gen is going to be released in june. asking for advice now is useless since all the parts are going to change

a 120 dollar board will support SLI fine and has all the needed features. no one needs to spend more than 220 on a motherboard and even then its generally overkill
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May 9, 2013 9:45:35 AM

TheBigTroll said:
haswell which is 4th gen is going to be released in june. asking for advice now is useless since all the parts are going to change

a 120 dollar board will support SLI fine and has all the needed features. no one needs to spend more than 220 on a motherboard and even then its generally overkill


Editied top post, cause i made a mistake and i meant this for the part list http://pcpartpicker.com/p/W7mw
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a b U Graphics card
May 9, 2013 9:55:45 AM

no. just no

-the i7 does you zero good if you dont video edit
-get a proper loop or get a heatsink. or the swiftech h220., anything else is garbage
-over spending on a motherboard. some thing half the price does the same job just as well. you can never overclock high enough to make that board useful (the board is intended for liquid nitrogen)
-there is no point of a constellation drive
-get a SSD
-680s dont perform better than 670s
-4gb makes the card slower
-you dont need a sound card
-a smaller case will do you just fine
-850w isnt needed for SLI
-there are cheaper dvd drives
-watercooling doesnt cost 250. if you get a swiftech h220 maybe it will cost 250. otherwise at least 500
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May 9, 2013 9:56:26 AM

stayputman said:
TheBigTroll said:
haswell which is 4th gen is going to be released in june. asking for advice now is useless since all the parts are going to change

a 120 dollar board will support SLI fine and has all the needed features. no one needs to spend more than 220 on a motherboard and even then its generally overkill


Editied top post, cause i made a mistake and i meant this for the part list http://pcpartpicker.com/p/W7mw


That motherboard is way too expensive and you can get one that's 1/2 the cost and does the same functions. For your uses you don't need the i7 or the gimmick liquid cooler.

If it's future proofing you are going after - I will say this: there's no such thing! It doesn't exist. No matter what you buy something better is going to be coming down the pike. If you buy the Maximus V, you're just overpaying for a really expensive motherboard. That won't make a build future proof.
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May 9, 2013 9:56:37 AM

Wait, if i get the haswell i7, it would mean i would have to choose a new motherboard and wait for its new specs ?
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a b U Graphics card
May 9, 2013 9:59:57 AM

yes. new board (a much cheaper board. dont waste your time spending more on a board. it dosnt do anything), new CPU and new GPU
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May 9, 2013 3:35:17 PM

TheBigTroll said:
no. just no

-the i7 does you zero good if you dont video edit
-get a proper loop or get a heatsink. or the swiftech h220., anything else is garbage
-over spending on a motherboard. some thing half the price does the same job just as well. you can never overclock high enough to make that board useful (the board is intended for liquid nitrogen)
-there is no point of a constellation drive
-get a SSD
-680s dont perform better than 670s
-4gb makes the card slower
-you dont need a sound card
-a smaller case will do you just fine
-850w isnt needed for SLI
-there are cheaper dvd drives
-watercooling doesnt cost 250. if you get a swiftech h220 maybe it will cost 250. otherwise at least 500


Im going to do video editing as im going to post videos on youtube etc, thats why im getting the i7, and does 4gb actually make the card slower? im getting a double monitor.

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May 9, 2013 3:54:11 PM

stayputman said:

Im going to do video editing as im going to post videos on youtube etc, thats why im getting the i7, and does 4gb actually make the card slower? im getting a double monitor.


It doesn't take much at all to process Youtube videos - my Galaxy S2's camera can do that. You definitely don't need to invest in an i7 for that purpose. And no having 4GB of RAM has no effect on your card unless you're setting up two or more displays. For a single it's more than enough.
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a c 127 U Graphics card
May 10, 2013 12:06:38 AM

Whether getting an i7 is worth it depends on how serious you are about the Youtube uploads, is it worth dropping an extra $100 on? Ultimately we cant answer that, you'l have to figure it out yourself.
Agree on the H100i, get a Noctua NH-D14 and save yourself $30 and get the same performance.
Motherboard is quite overkill.
RAM capacity again comes down to the Youtube thing.
Dont go for the Constellation, its a drive more oriented to server and RAID usage than as a proper desktop drive. Go for the WD Black or Seagate Barracuda lines.

The 680 except for some CUDA cores is just a higher clocked 670, you can save yourself a fair bit by dropping down to a 670 for no real drop in performance. As for the 4GB, if your playing at 1080p very few games (Crysis 3 and modded Skyrim being the exceptions I know of) will use more than 2GB.
IMO, go for a 7970. Its stronger than a 680 anyway and comes with 3GB of VRAM.

The Xonar DX sound card, unless you have a very good sound setup already or intend to get one, dont bother spending more than $20 on a sound card, if at all.

Case is fine IMO.
850W is a bit overkill, but not too badly if you intend to Crossfire/SLI.
Agree with BigTroll on the water-cooling, its going to cost more than $250 if your going to be including your GPU.
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a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2013 4:51:13 AM

link doesnt work. and if you havent changed the stuff i mentioned, the odds are that it isnt very optimized
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a c 127 U Graphics card
May 10, 2013 4:51:50 AM

Links broke.
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May 10, 2013 5:08:07 AM

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wilm I can always change the motherboard, but the processor ill stay on the i7 series(even though im still waiting on haswell) also im going for looks through a clear side screen
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a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2013 5:11:42 AM

-low voltage ram doesnt do anything
-ghz editions dont perform much better than a regular model
-a regular 7970 is way cheaper
-casing is on the overkill side
-the xfx 850w is the same for cheaper
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May 10, 2013 5:14:49 AM

TheBigTroll said:
-low voltage ram doesnt do anything
-ghz editions dont perform much better than a regular model
-a regular 7970 is way cheaper
-casing is on the overkill side
-the xfx 850w is the same for cheaper


What do you think i should remove/add/change?

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a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2013 5:23:33 AM

everything that i mentioned above
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May 10, 2013 5:28:46 AM

TheBigTroll said:
everything that i mentioned above


http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Wiuu is that better? and im staying with that case. Also with all this hardware would i be able to play games on max settings ?

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a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2013 5:46:20 AM

now its good
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WiEJ

it should be able to max out the games. but then new cards are coming out so there isnt much reason talking about which ones to get
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May 10, 2013 5:49:11 AM

TheBigTroll said:
now its good
http://pcpartpicker.com/p/WiEJ

it should be able to max out the games. but then new cards are coming out so there isnt much reason talking about which ones to get


Damn thank you, im going to use what you put on partpicker, but what cards are coming out ?

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a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2013 6:00:58 AM

the 700 series most likely from nvidia. not too sure about amd. nothing coming from them
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May 10, 2013 7:58:01 AM

TheBigTroll said:
the 700 series most likely from nvidia. not too sure about amd. nothing coming from them


Oh alright thank you very much, and do you have any clue on how good i can run arma 3 on these that type of system that you picked out ? Also last question, SLI gtx 680 2gb? or Crossfire Gigabyte HD 7970 3gb ?
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a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2013 8:07:40 AM

no. im not much of a arma player. i can tell you that you should at least come close to maxing it out.

SLI 670s are a better option than SLI 680s due to the same performance for a lot less. as for raw performance goes, the 7970 beats both but then they have runt framing issues that are supposed to be fixed but not quite
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May 10, 2013 8:10:36 AM

TheBigTroll said:
no. im not much of a arma player. i can tell you that you should at least come close to maxing it out.

SLI 670s are a better option than SLI 680s due to the same performance for a lot less. as for raw performance goes, the 7970 beats both but then they have runt framing issues that are supposed to be fixed but not quite

Sorry i meant dual 670's, but other than that, i should just stick with dual 7970's, and wait until they fix the framing issue?
Also worth overclocking the Crossfired Gigagbyte hd 7970's or no ?

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a b U Graphics card
May 10, 2013 8:26:22 AM

wait for new GPUs to come out first before buying. dont buy anything as of now other than the case, drives, psu, and the heatsink
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May 10, 2013 8:30:07 AM

TheBigTroll said:
wait for new GPUs to come out first before buying. dont buy anything as of now other than the case, drives, psu, and the heatsink


Alright ill wait until september to see whats new, thanks your help and im going to go buy the case, drives and the heatsink:)  thank you
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